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Post Post #125 (ISO) » Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:42 am

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I think u might be scum >.>
I really hope not

But uh you're not inspiring confidence thus far

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Post Post #126 (ISO) » Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:45 am

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In post 121, DeathNote wrote:I took the time to read what total war does and yes I would like that please.

VOTE: total: war
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Post Post #127 (ISO) » Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:46 am

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In post 126, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 121, DeathNote wrote:I took the time to read what total war does and yes I would like that please.

VOTE: total: war
READING IS UNAMERICAN
i mean i don't think he read the part where it's impossible now
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Post Post #128 (ISO) » Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:47 am

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In post 109, mastina wrote:PookyTheMagicalBear
gorilla
Prism
Cephrir (fastest backtrack in the west: I thought his opener was scum but his posts since then make me think town)
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Locktown townreads lean town null (I need to shrink this I know) lean scum scumread scum.
IF WE FOLLOW THIS READSLIST AND NUKE EVERYTHING OUTSIDE OF THE TOP FIVE I GURANTEE AMERICAN VICTORY

LETS GET IT DONE

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Post Post #129 (ISO) » Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:48 am

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Post Post #130 (ISO) » Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:48 am

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I PLAYED A GAME WITH MASTINA SCUM WHERE SHE PUT HER TOP FIVE TOWNREADS AS ALL TOWN

LETS JUST PRETEND SHE IS SCUM AND DO THE SAME THING

GO GO GO AMERICA FOREVER
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Post Post #131 (ISO) » Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:49 am

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Present the options to me. I'll pick what MURICA should do.
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Post Post #132 (ISO) » Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:49 am

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THAT IS THE ATTITUDE EVERY TRUE RED BLOODED AMERICAN SHOULD HAVE
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Post Post #133 (ISO) » Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:50 am

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wait you guys have red blood? sus imo.
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Post Post #134 (ISO) » Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:52 am

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In post 133, Cephrir wrote:wait you guys have red blood? sus imo.

I ATE A TWO INCH THICK STEAK TODAY TO GET IN THE RIGHT MOOD FOR THIS GAME

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Post Post #135 (ISO) » Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:56 am

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Scum?
In post 116, Save The Dragons wrote:mastina's reads look random to me?
They aren't. I have a very detailed internal model of how I expect town and scum to act in the rvs (one that is somewhat dynamic), along with what amounts to a mental algorithm for players who haven't posted to help me sort them even without posts. (Which is why the null section is too big--I should be able to sort the names in there by and large even without them having posted.) It's something I've partially explained before but I wouldn't know how to fully unpack it and even if I did, once I did, it would make the process obsolete.

I can however explain my reads.

Pooky is self-evidently a TRUE PATRIOT with love of COUNTRY AND GOD above all. He radiates town with every iota of his posting. I realize that I've yet to see a proper Pooky scumgame (I might've seen it once in a hydra? Not sure, would need to check my memory, if I did he was underwhelming but it's possible I haven't seen Pooky-scum before), so I realize that he's apparently pretty damn good at it...but he's doing everything to just be. Town. Through and through. He's just radiating, oozing, town. To borrow his own words, he bleeds red white and blue with his very essence. He's got that energy, that aura, radiating town from him in a way that just, I don't see how that's ever scum.

gorilla is basically trying to mastina mastina, with his readslist style and his town scum quoting of posts, but beyond that, the way he suggested total war, the progression in his stances, what he is doing inthread and overall the total content just seems town.

Prism is already exuding similar energy to my experience with Prism as town. I instantly clicked with Prism's opener as being town and the things Prism are doing just feel town to me in a way that's a bit hard to articulate. Call it gut if you must but I'm just pretty sure that this is Prism as town. Granted, I've not actually seen Prism as scum but this
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Cephrir's opener gave me scumpings as an opener more likely to be from scum, but his content since then has been very much the Cephrir as town that I got to see in Team Mafia. I realize he's a skilled enough scum player to look highly town as scum and to imitate his town meta, but what he's doing doesn't look like scum imitating their town meta, it looks like town being in their town meta.

samantha is by far the weakest of these townreads, mostly from samantha's opener.

STD I've liked so far, but while it looks vaguely town, STD is a legendary player whose skills at scum mean that this is not out of what I imagine STD's scumrange to be.

Equinox is similar, in looking town but not being locktown yet.

Nexus I lean town on from his opener but I need more to be sure.

DeasVail is pure gut.

Bell and deep-city-lights are both gut from the algorithm.
T3 is hard to get a lock on, but I do lean scum from T3's content overall.

Church of Skitter is Ali and that comes with the disclaimer that I can't read Ali worth shit, but I feel like I should be able to read Mena here. So far nothing town from them and they look scum but it's not locked.

Titus's townplay has degraded to the point where just about every game of hers I think her towngame is her as scum, and this is why she's not lockscum--but she looks and breathes scum to me right now; my previous inaccuracies are the only reason she's not lockscum here.

Vaxkiller isn't even trying to hide that he's scum here.

And Et Al is my largest scumread because it is the hydra I would expect to be the towniest slot in the game--skitter is a bloody paragon, both having won the award and being at that level to receive nominations multiple consecutive years. I would expect her to, very quickly, radiate town. She hasn't. But more than that, Something_Smart also is someone I would expect to see town in if he were town. I'm not seeing it. In fact what I'm seeing reminds me of scum-S_S.
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Post Post #136 (ISO) » Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:58 am

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Oh whoops, meant to include an updated readslist with that:

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DeathNote
The Church of Skitter (Alisae/Menalque)
Titus

Vaxkiller
Et Al (Skitter/SS)

DeathNote scum for being...well, scum; he's pretty damn scum here albeit not lock.
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Post Post #137 (ISO) » Thu Apr 29, 2021 11:01 am

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In post 125, Et Al wrote:I think u might be scum >.>
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Post Post #138 (ISO) » Thu Apr 29, 2021 11:01 am

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I am dead serious about instanuking gorilla if I wind up picking silo
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Post Post #139 (ISO) » Thu Apr 29, 2021 11:03 am

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In post 135, mastina wrote:Prism is already exuding similar energy to my experience with Prism as town. I instantly clicked with Prism's opener as being town and the things Prism are doing just feel town to me in a way that's a bit hard to articulate. Call it gut if you must but I'm just pretty sure that this is Prism as town. Granted, I've not actually seen Prism as scum but this feels like Prism as town.
Makes no sense given WH13, where I was the only one to pick up on a loophole the mod didn't catch in the pregame, and I did not start out shitposting
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Post Post #140 (ISO) » Thu Apr 29, 2021 11:06 am

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In post 135, mastina wrote:And Et Al is my largest scumread because it is the hydra I would expect to be the towniest slot in the game--skitter is a bloody paragon, both having won the award and being at that level to receive nominations multiple consecutive years. I would expect her to, very quickly, radiate town. She hasn't. But more than that, Something_Smart also is someone I would expect to see town in if he were town. I'm not seeing it. In fact what I'm seeing reminds me of scum-S_S.
A) i feel compelled to point out that i havent won paragon
B) i literally hadnt posted yet at the time you posted this read, so i would love to hear more abt how u determined i wasnt 'radiating towniness' from my posting
C) i retract the pooky townread and/or i can see a universe where pooky is scum with mastina

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Post Post #141 (ISO) » Thu Apr 29, 2021 11:07 am

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In post 137, The Church of Skitter wrote:
In post 125, Et Al wrote:I think u might be scum >.>
y tho
You're doing the thing where u orient around me

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Post Post #142 (ISO) » Thu Apr 29, 2021 11:07 am

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How tho
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Post Post #143 (ISO) » Thu Apr 29, 2021 11:07 am

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Unless you mean that you’re the only person I’ve really talked to so far in which case

Sure? I guess?
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Post Post #144 (ISO) » Thu Apr 29, 2021 11:10 am

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In post 139, Prism wrote:
In post 135, mastina wrote:Prism is already exuding similar energy to my experience with Prism as town. I instantly clicked with Prism's opener as being town and the things Prism are doing just feel town to me in a way that's a bit hard to articulate. Call it gut if you must but I'm just pretty sure that this is Prism as town. Granted, I've not actually seen Prism as scum but this feels like Prism as town.
Makes no sense given WH13, where I was the only one to pick up on a loophole the mod didn't catch in the pregame, and I did not start out shitposting
No two towngames are exactly alike. There are games where I will pick up on mechanical loopholes the mod didn't and then there are games where I will herpaderp and blatantly not grasp fundamental game mechanics--the divide between these isn't town vs scum, it's game vs game.

I would expect similar from you. In fact it is specifically BECAUSE of that difference but similarity to me, if that makes sense. Plus I think that your posts overall have more similarity between games than you give yourself credit for. I'm pretty sure that while you may not have considered your posts in Warehouse 13 to be shitposting, you had a fair amount of posting that wasn't entirely serious--at least that's what my memory told me. Basically you are giving off similar vibes and similar an aura to that game. Not literally identical, obviously, but similar. Similar in a way that seems town.
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Post Post #145 (ISO) » Thu Apr 29, 2021 11:11 am

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In post 141, Et Al wrote:
In post 137, The Church of Skitter wrote:
In post 125, Et Al wrote:I think u might be scum >.>
y tho
You're doing the thing where u orient around me

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THIS IS SCUM THEATRE

WHAT IS THIS ORIENTATION THING
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Post Post #146 (ISO) » Thu Apr 29, 2021 11:12 am

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THE ONLY THING TRUE AMERICANS DO IS ORIENT THEIR NUKES TOWARDS THE SKY AND LET GOD DECIDE THE REST
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Post Post #147 (ISO) » Thu Apr 29, 2021 11:12 am

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Skitt has a hypothesis that when I’m scum I warp my navigation of the gamestate around what she/her slot is doing

But I don’t get how she thinks I’m doing that here
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Post Post #148 (ISO) » Thu Apr 29, 2021 11:13 am

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I bet pooky leaves his silo in ABM mode all game

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Post Post #149 (ISO) » Thu Apr 29, 2021 11:15 am

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In post 140, Et Al wrote:A) i feel compelled to point out that i havent won paragon
Huh, could've sworn you had.
In post 140, Et Al wrote:B) i literally hadnt posted yet at the time you posted this read, so i would love to hear more abt how u determined i wasnt 'radiating towniness' from my posting
I mean this is self-explanatory as the first is explanation enough for the second. :P

But while my initial scumread was written before your posting-- was written after you had posted.

The initial scumread was for Something_Smart, but you've only strengthened the existing scumread. Because you're not radiating towniness.
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