DEFCON Mafia 5.0: GAME OVER - NEW AMERICA FORMED

[The Church of Skitter]

Total war should honestly just be set to default

Why? We should be discussing things. It helps us that are not pacifists to aim nukes properly.

Bro I get to nuke people

I wanna nuke people and do it asap

And I don’t trust your Alisae head or your reads so I don’t want you to do it ASAP.

fuck u I wanna have fun

More than one way to do that. I don’t trust you with a nuke. Leaving this here. Remember this people.

Booooooo

[Mognet]

My point is that there isn’t a game that LLD thinks positively of Mastina. That’s a bias.

WHAT DOES POSITIVE HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH WHETHER SOMEONE IS SCUM OR NOT

It comes from analyzing their read.

If they always think someone is scum/bad, it turns into the lady who cried scum.

It’s meaningless.

If every game I played in I said SirCakez was scum/bad and then repeated it, at some point it’s like “yeah uhhuh sure” and we note that I always scumread SirCakez.

If LLD has a record of being positive and negative towards Mastina that gives their meta read weight.

[Mognet]

Instead her arguments are about playstyle and wordiness which is kicking someone off for playing differently than you,

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

DO YOU HAVE A RECORD OF LLD ALWAYS CALLING MASTINA SCUM ?

[Mognet]

DO YOU HAVE A RECORD OF LLD ALWAYS CALLING MASTINA SCUM ?

Every game provided here she has called Mastina scum soooo seems accurate to me

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Every game provided here she has called Mastina scum soooo seems accurate to me

THIS IS LITERALLY NOT EVEN TRUE

[Mognet]

Every game provided here she has called Mastina scum soooo seems accurate to me

THIS IS LITERALLY NOT EVEN TRUE

It is though.

327 >> Waits for a read list to invert before Mastina even posts reads. This implies Mastina is scum regardless of what alignment she draws. The literal definition of always thinking someone is scum.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I found this other game where ladyDelta has a vendetta on player mastina:

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go

Hey funny you should mention this game

To everyone watching? I'd just like to iterate this.

Mastina was town this game. So was I. I employed the tactic.

Had we eliminated in order from her townreasds down? The first 4 reads were Scum Scum Town Scum. We also win the game if we continue doing this.

This is a common factor in games. This is what happens. Mastina can't read worth shit.

It's just that she was town that game and scum this game so

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FOR EXAMPLE THIS GAME

MASTINA WAS TOWN

LLD WAS TOWN

LLD IDENTIFIED MASTINA AS TOWN

YOU SHOULD READ INSTEAD OF JUST MAKING THINGS UP

MAKING THINGS UP IS MY JOB

[Cephrir]

Once LLD and Church Kupo poked at me, then you piled on with “One thing I didn’t like...” this is a common scum ploy. You aren’t calling me scummy like LLD and Church are. You’re saying you don’t like it.

I think you know perfectly well what "not liking it" means. If you claim you don't, then I will point out that "common scum ploy" also isnt calling titus scummy. You seem quite interested in ~what scum commonly do~. I'm more interested in what they are actually doing, here, today

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

This implies Mastina is scum regardless of what alignment she draws. The literal definition of always thinking someone is scum.

NO IT DOESNT

YOU CAN BE RUSSKIE SCUM

OR JUST TOWN THAT IS WRONG

IT IS NOT THE SAME THING

[Mognet]

No she did not. She identified her as working against town which is scum. She labeled her alignment correctly but still wanted her gone.

She says Mastina should go here because her playstyle sucks. She said in 327 she wanted Mastina’s reads inverted because she sucks.

That’s a known bias.

[Mognet]

That known bias means I agree she wants Mastina gone but doesn’t tell me anything about Mastina’s alignment

[Cephrir]

Me not liking something =/= scum necessarily. It's me seeking feedback.

Oh

Uh, ok, my bad apparently??

[Mognet]

Once LLD and Church Kupo poked at me, then you piled on with “One thing I didn’t like...” this is a common scum ploy. You aren’t calling me scummy like LLD and Church are. You’re saying you don’t like it.

I think you know perfectly well what "not liking it" means. If you claim you don't, then I will point out that "common scum ploy" also isnt calling titus scummy. You seem quite interested in ~what scum commonly do~. I'm more interested in what they are actually doing, here, today

Until I get a hold on everyone, it’s common scum yes. Get some intro reads out the adjust as time goes. I am concerned about what scum are doing now. I just think I have a lot of townreads so I am good for now and will end the day after work and the rest is just PoE

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

No she did not. She identified her as working against town which is scum. She labeled her alignment correctly but still wanted her gone.

She says Mastina should go here because her playstyle sucks. She said in 327 she wanted Mastina’s reads inverted because she sucks.

That’s a known bias.

SHE SAID MASTINA IS A RUSSKIE

THATS HER READ ON MASTINA

SHE WOULD ONLY INVERT MASTINAS READS IF SHE THOUGHT MASTINA WAS TOWN

[Cephrir]

Sorry you’re depressed but I think with a qualifier like necessarily you’re scum. You’re wanting people to post about me negatively.

What?????????????????

[Mognet]

Sorry you’re depressed but I think with a qualifier like necessarily you’re scum. You’re wanting people to post about me negatively.

What?????????????????

Titus posted (paraphrase) “One thing I don’t like about Mog is ...” “doesn’t necessarily make me scum (but I am)” (parenthesis my emphasis) it’s a slanted way to post

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=160&t=85745

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IN THIS GAME LLD SAYS MASTINA IS TOWN AND THEY SHOULD INVERT MASTINAS READSLIST AND KILL THE TOP OF IT.

3/4 OF MASTINAS TOP TOWNREADS IN THIS GAME WERE SCUM SO THEY PROBABLY JUST WIN IF THEY LISTEN TO LLD

INSTEAD THEY ELIM LLD

TOWN LOSES THIS GAME BTW

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=85923

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IN THIS GAME MASTINA IS SCUM, LLD IS TOWN

LLD DOES NOT DO THE INVERTED READLIST THING ON MASTINA - MASTINAS SCUM READLIST BTW HAD ALL TOWN IN THE TOP READS OR WHATEVER

SHE ALSO DOES NOT PUSH FOR MASTINA TO DIE ON D1 SHE INSTEAD PUSHES CAKES WHO WAS ALSO SCUM.

SO YOUR COMPLAINT ABOUT LLD BEING BIASED AND WANTING TO AUTOYEET MASTINA IS JUST NONSENSE

[marry]

@joqiza what i meant about sam is basically like, imagine we're playing the idk, 100th game with sam, and he is using his exact same meta again (which is, sam yknow). it would hold true that we would day 1 yeet him eventually, right? i feel like this is what's happening with mastina and people at the table (along with scumreading mastina), basically. fed up + scumreading the playstyle
that's basically all, there was little to no point bringing it up i just wanted to relate it to something from home

[marry]

are we not hammered yet whats the votecount

[Cephrir]

If they always think someone is scum/bad, it turns into the lady who cried scum.

It’s meaningless.

Badness is a persistent quality

[Mognet]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=160&t=85745

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IN THIS GAME LLD SAYS MASTINA IS TOWN AND THEY SHOULD INVERT MASTINAS READSLIST AND KILL THE TOP OF IT.

3/4 OF MASTINAS TOP TOWNREADS IN THIS GAME WERE SCUM SO THEY PROBABLY JUST WIN IF THEY LISTEN TO LLD

INSTEAD THEY ELIM LLD

TOWN LOSES THIS GAME BTW

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=85923

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IN THIS GAME MASTINA IS SCUM, LLD IS TOWN

LLD DOES NOT DO THE INVERTED READLIST THING ON MASTINA - MASTINAS SCUM READLIST BTW HAD ALL TOWN IN THE TOP READS OR WHATEVER

SHE ALSO DOES NOT PUSH FOR MASTINA TO DIE ON D1 SHE INSTEAD PUSHES CAKES WHO WAS ALSO SCUM.

SO YOUR COMPLAINT ABOUT LLD BEING BIASED AND WANTING TO AUTOYEET MASTINA IS JUST NONSENSE

Again LLD thought in both those games Mastina was antitown. She has not had a game (or had one shared) in which she notices the good in Mastina. I think you’re not understanding my point here Pooky. She always thinks Mastina is bad, bad town or bad scum. So she’s more inclined to want to yeet Mastina which makes her biased.

[Mognet]

are we not hammered yet whats the votecount

Still 12. Using my sweet time to catch up and poke around

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Again LLD thought in both those games Mastina was antitown. She has not had a game (or had one shared) in which she notices the good in Mastina. I think you’re not understanding my point here Pooky. She always thinks Mastina is bad, bad town or bad scum. So she’s more inclined to want to yeet Mastina which makes her biased.

EXCEPT SHE LITERALLY DIDNT WANT TO YEET MASTINA D1 IN EITHER GAME I LINKED SO WHERE ARE YOU COMING UP WITH THIS SHE ALWAYS WANTS TO YEET MASTINA NONSENSE FROM

[SirCakez]

NUKE: POOKYBEAR

Do not post fake nukes. This is a core rule of this setup.

does it truly count as a fake nuke if we're in a stage of the game where it literally can't be launched?

(understood, I won't do it again)

-M

Yes.