Micro 1010: Divide and Conquer: Round 2 - Game Over!

[Not_Mafia]

This definitely seems like scum Marci from the newbie game

[Bingle]

Norwee has voted Marci - what do Bingle and Not_Mafia think about that potential wagon?

I don't particularly. Norwee/NM apparently played with her in a newbie recently that I mean to read for meta soon, but I haven't gotten around to it. I also don't really plan on scumhunting the big pool, but rather townhunting the big pool and then teamhunting across pools. I will say that the pair of N_M/Norwee both being willing to go there is :eyebrows: for me.

[NorwegianboyEE]

You haven’t really townhunted in the big pool Bingle.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Do you have any reads yet or what?

[Bingle]

Disagree. We've talked about Dunn, I'm waiting for a response from Hopkirk, and I agree with your logic on GL given his response. Luke and Scamp both strike me as the kind where their alignment will be more obvious if I let them do their thing and I can afford to be a passive observer on marci at the moment.

Sometimes, it's better to know how to let the thread breathe to get reads.

[Vanderscamp]

Bingle can you talk about what I asked you about Dunn?

[Bingle]

NM being in the group of 3 is an anomoly. Is it because the deep scum is in the pool of 6 and NM is the other scum, or because they want to miselim NM in the smaller group?

VOTE: Bingle

This has serious reasoning on 1/3 of the small pool and a vote on a different 1/3 of the small pool.

If N_M flips scum, Dunn looks weird for having posted it and there's nothing to gain from having posted it. There's really nothing more that can be elaborated on there. Either you agree with the thought or you don't.

[Hopkirk]

nice, GL is the obvtown between GL/Lukewarm

three or four things from Norway feel much more likely to come from town but who cares about sorting the small hood

- first post about 'fuck being in the 3p hood'
- being toxic to NM after reading his comments complaining about scum being toxic being personally upsetting to him like a week ago. either lacks self awareness and is doing it as scum to be unpleasant, memeing, theater, or town. vibes most as town there
- amount of posts
other stuff but those are three of them so it fills the 3-4 i mentioned to t h e letter

Elaborate, please.

Hoppy, when did you talk to FL about norwee?

Me and hectic got lost backpacking and ended up in Norway one time and we saw this film set and Hectic was all like 'hey hop, isn't that flavour leaf working on the lighting tech'. i thought he was joking but it turned out that it actually was FL, then when we went over to say hi we all started joking about how it's weird that it wasn't Norway we met since we were in Norway at the time and FL started going on this long rant about how Norway has low WIM as scum or something...

[Hopkirk]

Actually is Hopkirk really subdued this game for some reason?

I was avoiding bringing it up to see how he reacted to mild questioning, but yeah.

have we ever played together Bingle?
have you read much of my stuff recently Norway & subdued as in not memeing enough or not solving enough?

Assuming N_M scum we're left with:

Dunnstral
Hopkirk
marcistar

Vanderscamp's ISO doesn't lend itself well to being allied with N_M imo. Ping me if you disagree.

string of posts including/around this feels genuine because it's too fast

[Hopkirk]

Disagree. We've talked about Dunn, I'm waiting for a response from Hopkirk, and I agree with your logic on GL given his response. Luke and Scamp both strike me as the kind where their alignment will be more obvious if I let them do their thing and I can afford to be a passive observer on marci at the moment.

Sometimes, it's better to know how to let the thread breathe to get reads.

what were you waiting on a response from me on?

[Hopkirk]

i don't have a problem with Vanders

[Hopkirk]

nice, GL is the obvtown between GL/Lukewarm

three or four things from Norway feel much more likely to come from town but who cares about sorting the small hood

Elaborate, please.

Hoppy, when did you talk to FL about norwee?

Me and hectic got lost backpacking and ended up in Norway one time and we saw this film set and Hectic was all like 'hey hop, isn't that flavour leaf working on the lighting tech'. i thought he was joking but it turned out that it actually was FL, then when we went over to say hi we all started joking about how it's weird that it wasn't Norway we met since we were in Norway at the time and FL started going on this long rant about how Norway has low WIM as scum or something...

just reposting this with my response not within quotes because messed up

- first post about 'fuck being in the 3p hood'
- being toxic to NM after reading his comments complaining about scum being toxic being personally upsetting to him like a week ago. either lacks self awareness and is doing it as scum to be unpleasant, memeing, theater, or town. vibes most as town there
- amount of posts
other stuff but those are three of them so it fills the 3-4 i mentioned to t h e letter

[Vanderscamp]

NM being in the group of 3 is an anomoly. Is it because the deep scum is in the pool of 6 and NM is the other scum, or because they want to miselim NM in the smaller group?

VOTE: Bingle

This has serious reasoning on 1/3 of the small pool and a vote on a different 1/3 of the small pool.

If N_M flips scum, Dunn looks weird for having posted it and there's nothing to gain from having posted it. There's really nothing more that can be elaborated on there. Either you agree with the thought or you don't.

I very much disagree, I'm pretty neutral on the post but I actively dislike your analysis of it.

Dunn is not being bold here or giving serious reasoning, he is giving empty speculation without ever actually coming to a conclusion about it. I think this kind of analysis is super easy for scum to give because it sounds gamesolvey, but it doesn't actually take a stance or anything or advance the game. And the motivation to post it as scum is to sound like you are game solving when you actually aren't.
I don't think it's bold and I don't think it's serious reasoning, and what you said earlier about him calling one person scum in the pool and voting another person from the pool is not correct.

[Vanderscamp]

VOTE: bingle

[Hopkirk]

are you still ignoring my existence?

[Hopkirk]

that's pretty messed up. like what are you, my friends, family, crush, and parents?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Me and hectic got lost backpacking and ended up in Norway one time and we saw this film set and Hectic was all like 'hey hop, isn't that flavour leaf working on the lighting tech'. i thought he was joking but it turned out that it actually was FL, then when we went over to say hi we all started joking about how it's weird that it wasn't Norway we met since we were in Norway at the time and FL started going on this long rant about how Norway has low WIM as scum or something...

What an amazing story.

[NorwegianboyEE]

have you read much of my stuff recently Norway & subdued as in not memeing enough or not solving enough?

Just felt like you hadn’t done much as i’d expect from you usually. But once i checked again you actually had posted relatively recently so i decided it wasn’t much to talk about after all.

[Hopkirk]

*Chuckles*, I'm pretty active when me and hectic aren't I'm a hydra and competing over who can prod dodge the most and playing prod chicken without getting yelled at (like in that other game we played)

[Lukewarm]

Norwee has voted Marci - what do Bingle and Not_Mafia think about that potential wagon?

I don't particularly. Norwee/NM apparently played with her in a newbie recently that I mean to read for meta soon, but I haven't gotten around to it. I also don't really plan on scumhunting the big pool, but rather townhunting the big pool and then teamhunting across pools. I will say that the pair of N_M/Norwee both being willing to go there is :eyebrows: for me.

Me, Not_Mafia, and Norwee were all town in that game with a scum!Marci

[Lukewarm]

So they thing I was thinking about, is that imo, the scum team would have put the scum they felt could comfortable dodge a day 1 elim into the 6p neighborhood, because that is an instant lose condition. This is Marci's first game outside of the Newbie cue, and there are 3 people in this game that just saw her scum game. It just seems like a needlessly dangerous choice to put scum!marci into the 6P team.

Norwee and Bingle both have played in this set up before, and would be aware of that danger, and both started the game by pushing for a vote in the 6P pool. Not_Mafia on the other hand, came in pushing for the Day 1 elim to be in the 3P pool, so there is a chance that he thought the better Day 1 elim dodger should go in the 3P pool if he expected town to start there. But then he just agreed with the growing suspicion on Marci.

[SirCakez]

Votecount 1.2

Bingle (3) - Dunnstral, Not_Mafia, Vanderscamp
Lukewarm (1) - Hopkirk
Vanderscamp (1) - GuiltyLion
marcistar (1) - NorwegianboyEE

Not voting (3) - Bingle, marcistar, Lukewarm

(expired on 2021-05-24 08:40:00) remain until day end

With 9 players alive, it takes 5 to reach a majority.

[marcistar]

I wasn't sure, the answer I got makes me think it was more likely serious but still not sure.

im not serious, but im pretty sure ur serious so im carrying thru with susing myself ig.

I'm guessing this is partially serious and partially a joke?

I'd be pretty interested to know how you would read yourself in this spot.

i just like, guessed what yall would be seeing.. it isnt my intent to be playing in that way rn, but it is what is is yknow? im not gonna fake pushes or anything im just waiting for something that seens scummy to come up

I just think it’s an fairly unserious reply to my scumread, like they’re trying to laugh it off or make it seem like it’s not a big deal. I don’t think their response has been townie but just really Lamist. "Haha yes i’m so scummy! Not scum though!"
Which is something i know scum!Marcistar is likely to do from what i’ve seen in the newbie.

my serious reply was asking you what made you feel like i was scum, i was gonna reply seriously to whatever you said but like "this is something scum marci could be doing" idk how to really reply to that ahah.

I think Marci's response has been pretty awkward, regardless of whether or not it was a joke.

i think im just not on the same wavelength as yall tbh

This definitely seems like scum Marci from the newbie game

can u explain how? ahah

[GuiltyLion]

i don't have a problem with Vanders

Is this a townread on Vanders, or an absence of scumminess?

it's kinda nice knowing you can't be S/S, so either you're town and not seeing the causes for suspicion that I'm seeing (slash maybe have reasons I'm missing to TR him?), or you're scum TRing a townie. either way I'd be interested in whether any of his content looks to you unlikely to come from scum as I really don't see anything that's struck me as especially town

[GuiltyLion]

So they thing I was thinking about, is that imo, the scum team would have put the scum they felt could comfortable dodge a day 1 elim into the 6p neighborhood, because that is an instant lose condition. This is Marci's first game outside of the Newbie cue, and there are 3 people in this game that just saw her scum game. It just seems like a needlessly dangerous choice to put scum!marci into the 6P team.

Norwee and Bingle both have played in this set up before, and would be aware of that danger, and both started the game by pushing for a vote in the 6P pool. Not_Mafia on the other hand, came in pushing for the Day 1 elim to be in the 3P pool, so there is a chance that he thought the better Day 1 elim dodger should go in the 3P pool if he expected town to start there. But then he just agreed with the growing suspicion on Marci.

This is how I feel about the idea of scum!Marci as well. The only explanations where she's scum in my mind are if nEE is trying an elaborate distancing/bussing gambit with the hope she's not actually voted off D1, or Bingle decided to put himself in the 3p and his relatively newbie partner in the 6p. I guess NM/marci could be a team divided across the pools this way, but then I don't see why NM decides to post 250, it wouldn't serve either of them at all