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[T3]

l o l
VOTE: grandpamo

[T3]

Wait are all the ccs serious?

[Bingle]

NM claimed VT in a very NM way.

Claiming psychologist as VT here is literally gamethrowing.

[Bingle]

You think NM put effort?

On a scale adjusted for meta, NM is unironically the highest effort slot in the game and effort is actually town indicative for him ime.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

lol grandpa r u trolling or is this a serious CC?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

OR you don't vote anyone-- and see how this plays out thinking I am trying to reaction test pooky.

wtf does this even mean

if you're townie counterclaiming me you are straight up throwing the game

if you're mafia counterclaiming me you should commit

don't do this test the waters bullshit

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

there's nothing to reaction test.

there's one psychologist in the game

that's me

if you want to play hero scum and CC me then do it

this half-assed CC reaction test nonsense is just a waste of time

[Bingle]

I’m content to wait for a retraction or confirmation on that cc. It should be immediate. Only scum has reason to need to think that situation through. If anyone else is actually the psych, they should claim in their next post.

[GrandpaMo]

okay i just came back from my nap, its 4 in the morning.

i of course retract. no reason for scum (if i was scum, it would make me more liable for elim) or town (if i was town, i would be basically throwing) to cc here; its more NAI for me imo (i explain below). i only cced as to what pooky would say just in case that pooky is NOT the psych as well as to bait just in case pooky is actual psych. my pr reads were actually pooky/nm/nd mena and i am waiting on what mena would say regarding this. i pr read pooky i think around day 2 - 3 after having no associate reads (same with Mena but DIFFERENT with NM). nd so i thought pooky was just pr/maf and that's why im inclined to believe this claim especially considering since i think there is mafia between pooky/T3 .

ps: i love claiming pr as VT. i use to do all the time in voice mafia / mafia.gg especially considering the fact that i could throw mafia off. and i have gained a habit of doing so as town/scum (that's why you shouldn't really focus on my claim being AI) all the time in a game. and yes sometimes, I do uh throw by accident and don't realize I get actual town pr condemned lol. but its more of in closed games i do it and this isn't a closed game which is like eh i guess i could do it but i would need to adapt dynamic playstyle where specific town knows what I am doing and scum doesn't just to throw scum off.

anyways, i think we really elim T3 today. Mafia will just kill psych at night no?

There is no reason for psych to fake claim on Day 4 with 7-8 ppl alive?

Because if that is fake and real psych does come out, and let's say we elim pooky today and they flip psych, then we get the other CC. I guess you could say, it wastes us a day.

A Mena CC will be the highlight of the game if this happens especially considering the interaction they had. That means pooky would have kept mena alive for the sole purpose to CC them omg that is fucking amazing if ur scum lmao

[GrandpaMo]

ego

crumbed it in my first post ^

holy shit. im taking psychology rn, and that is an amazing soft. I actually read back at your ISO one time I think during day 1 (when I didn't think you were psych)

and I actually thought why did pooky say ego out of anywhere, was it like a thing they do on MS as they do with twitter, ratio? or sum shit.

Ego for y'all don't know is one of three layers of the unconscious outlined as a iceberg by Sigmund Freud, a psychologist. Ego is the middle one, superego being the highest one, and ID being completely submerged underneath the water.

[GrandpaMo]

you forgot me smh. im voting you for not looking into the future

VOTE: VFP

btw hey t3 and pooky!! nice playing again with you all

wow didn't think i would be saying hi to scum

[T3]

l o l ^ 2

Nah this is scum Grandpa who thought NM had a guilty on him ccs, then realizes NM is vt.
Pooky, what were your results?

[T3]

Wait nvm I'm bad I missed NM vt claim.
Still keeping my vote on gm for the pooky cc.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i targetted dannflor n1 and got roleblocked

n2 result doesnt matter so i promptly forgot it

[GrandpaMo]

l o l ^ 2

Nah this is scum Grandpa who thought NM had a guilty on him ccs, then realizes NM is vt.
Pooky, what were your results?

what????

first please reread what you said.

then second analyze what you said.

"scum grandpa who thought nm had a guilty" so i CC after pooky comes out as psych?

please rephrase.

if i think i get what ur saying, then why would i cc to nm claiming vt???

when i mentioned pooky in my CC that implies i obviously knew that pooky was the one claiming psych.

wtf type psedoscience bs r u coming up wit

[GrandpaMo]

Wait nvm I'm bad I missed NM vt claim.
Still keeping my vote on gm for the pooky cc.

just saw this. LOL

ur a weird chad.

PLSSSS HOW IS THIS NOT FUCKING SCUM OMG.

[GrandpaMo]

t3 has been the only one in this game since day 1, that has been so obvious scum and no one just wants to care about him..

even a50 fucking tried, and somehow a50 is no longer with us:(

im not bout to lose to t3!scum

when half of town wasn't listening to a50 or me in day 1 . well at least we did get a vote onto drap scum but honestly i was blinded by t3 / lukewarm in the beginnning and had a consensus that lukewarm could be scum in the back of my head. but honestly seeing what/how t3 developed thru this game, is actually mindboggling. the tendencay to keep pivoting votes and blantaly sheeping. everyone here is scared to push for a t3 elim becasue they bring up a question of hey "does t3 really do this as obvious scum" this whole shit could be a wifom shit show for all we know. pls elim me tmr if im fucking wrong, but 100 percent this flips scum nd u need to trust. because t3 has been ignorning me till NOW which he finally can find a reason to omgus because he has no one other to push to but me.

that actually brings me to another point.

@t3 you call me scum, but you have been voting wit me and agreeing wit my logic for the past days.

so pls explain to me, why the all sudden change. oh i bet you wont answer this question too like all the other questions you have ignorned or deflected. that has cause the anti town behavior in you to shine.

honestly we got a jonny flip and that flipped town. lukewarm says if johnny flipped town >> t3 would be scum which i also said before him and i do agree with that statement as well.

im bout to go iso drap.

Spoiler:

WTF VOTE: pooky

Nice entrance.

Now Bingle, got any other early reads?

Mena slightly scummy, pooky low priority, your slot has tells but I need to wait for the psych evaluation result to determine if they’re scummy or towny. Dann strongest townread. I’d be voting lukewarm if I weren’t voting gypyx, but I think the gypyx wagon is more likely to be spicy atm.

You?

I liked the way Mena went about my slot when they voted me. It doesn’t seem to be “faked” per say. So I would slightly TR Mena there.

I personally like the way VFP has handled the thread. Not much content but it felt genuine. More of a gut read then anything but I trust it at least for now.

T3’s entrance wasn’t entirely bad but it was definitely not a great entrance. I’ll probably watch this slot and it’s progression towards Pooky.

As for Pooky themselves, well. I’m not really sure where to put them. From the majority of what I seen, their agenda is just Sheeping Mena.

I think your first big post (the one with the Psyc Check thing) felt towny. I want to vote with you for now and see where it goes and see further progression towards your slot.

As for Gypyx, I don’t know.
His first post seemed like jealous of me taken his spotlight.
His other posts haven’t really done much.
I believe 3 were Filler and the other was a turn down towards your Psych Plan Bingle. (If I remember correctly.)

Explain your VFP read.

Entrance was aggressively meh, seems to be moderately around and yet is only addressing topics that don't really have substance.

I officially endorse A50 poking this with a stick.

I think their entrance was fine.
Their reaction towards A50 talking about it was also fine and not panicky as scum may be in that scenario.
Like with T3’s entrance, he added “wtf” then votes.
I mean I guess it makes sense if it’s regarding the sheeping but that’s borderline NAI, but I mean it’s not really wolfy, I also believe VFP had a better entrance but I suppose that’s a personal opinion.

As for why I scumlean Professor, it was a combination of a bunch of posts.

Spoiler:

30 / 31 - he joins a joke wagon after the joke played out

35 - he blindly accepted the bingle plan that I still think is bad for town

70 - calls someone out for their rvs vote

96 - jumps on a new gypyx wagon, saying "I can get behind this" without any other information as to why he agreed with it, plus that was the first time he had mentioned gypyx

105 - still harping over T3's rvs vote

113 - this was the thing that made me iso him tbh. Blindly accepts Almost50's (I think) joke post about vfp.

Once I iso'ed him, I saw a lot of evidence that he was just following whatever other people were saying. Jumping on wagons without reason, blindly agreeing with other people when they made posts that I automatically questioned, and harping on someone's rsv vote.

None of them would have stood out individually, but when I iso'ed him there was a bunch of little things that pinged me, and no posts that made me townlean him, so I am happy with that vote for now.

1) I joined it due to Gypyx derailing when Bingle was top wagon.
2) Blindly accepting? I’ve seen that kind of thing done before and I personally have no issues with it.
3) Called them out? I was just making a sarcastic response towards their entrance post.
4) Yeah I wanted to see where it leads and and have no issues voting there as I have no reason to TR Gypyx at all, I explained why I Scum Lean them if you want to go back and read it.
5)I just think worse then Dann’s entrance. I also don’t even think Dann’s entrance is even that bad. T3’s isn’t entirely wolfy but it just isn’t a good entrance I feel.
6) When did I ever say I accept it? Let alone blindly. I just didn’t notice it can be looked that way until he pointed it out.

7)I hope I answered your concerns regarding my “little things”.

As for why I scumlean Professor, it was a combination of a bunch of posts.

Spoiler:

30 / 31 - he joins a joke wagon after the joke played out

35 - he blindly accepted the bingle plan that I still think is bad for town

70 - calls someone out for their rvs vote

96 - jumps on a new gypyx wagon, saying "I can get behind this" without any other information as to why he agreed with it, plus that was the first time he had mentioned gypyx

105 - still harping over T3's rvs vote

113 - this was the thing that made me iso him tbh. Blindly accepts Almost50's (I think) joke post about vfp.

Once I iso'ed him, I saw a lot of evidence that he was just following whatever other people were saying. Jumping on wagons without reason, blindly agreeing with other people when they made posts that I automatically questioned, and harping on someone's rsv vote.

None of them would have stood out individually, but when I iso'ed him there was a bunch of little things that pinged me, and no posts that made me townlean him, so I am happy with that vote for now.

1) I joined it due to Gypyx derailing when Bingle was top wagon.
2) Blindly accepting? I’ve seen that kind of thing done before and I personally have no issues with it.
3) Called them out? I was just making a sarcastic response towards their entrance post.
4) Yeah I wanted to see where it leads and and have no issues voting there as I have no reason to TR Gypyx at all, I explained why I Scum Lean them if you want to go back and read it.
5)I just think worse then Dann’s entrance. I also don’t even think Dann’s entrance is even that bad. T3’s isn’t entirely wolfy but it just isn’t a good entrance I feel.
6) When did I ever say I accept it? Let alone blindly. I just didn’t notice it can be looked that way until he pointed it out.

7)I hope I answered your concerns regarding my “little things”.

Well are there any players that you are currently suspicious of?

Gypyx. The person I’m voting for and stated I have a Scum Lean on?
Null on you but depending on your upcoming content and opinions regarding the main focused slots (such as myself) I should have more of a solid read on you that could or could not be a type of scum read.
Still observing Pooky and T3 carefully.

Actually, I’m gonna change my vote to this.
He calls me out when I call out T3’s entrance as not that great and comparing it with Dann.
Then when T3 votes then he throws T3 in his SR’s.

VOTE: Lukewarm

Professor’s Reads

ProfessorDrapion

Bingle

Menalque

Dannflor

GrandpaMo

VFP

Almost50

PookyTheMagicalBear

T3

ManWithNoName
Pine

Gypyx

Lukewarm

Professor’s Reads

ProfessorDrapion

Bingle

Menalque

Dannflor

GrandpaMo

VFP

Almost50

PookyTheMagicalBear

T3

ManWithNoName
Pine

Gypyx

Lukewarm

Is this ordered? If so, what has you putting Bingle at the very top of you town reads?

Bingle has been exceptionally Townie this game. (Or at least I think so)
They come in with a big post that had lots of production of interacting with.
They seem to be coming in looking for solves rather then coming in looking for agenda.
I like Bingle’s responses he’s been giving as they feel genuine.
Here’s some posts I like:
Post #129 I liked the fact here that Bingle gave a basic rundown of what him “Bingle” would do.
Although I’ve seen Bingle play before and despite me knowing how capable he is to do this as either alignment I feel like it’s still a good look to point him towards receiving that green Rolecard.

Although I do like how he handled Grandpa Mo’s slot on Post #185 while I disagree with the opinion of dislike (as I felt Grandpa was genuine with their analysis) the response Bingle gave to Grandpa didn’t feel like scum agenda but rather Town generally disliking Grandpa’s opinion.

In case you also ask, As for Mena I was concerned with Mena’s early day 1 Bingle thing as despite it technically being a null thing It could also be considered Town motivated or be Scum agenda depending on how they go about it.
And well judging from what I’ve been seeing and how they have treated Bingle I think it comes more from a Town mindset then that off a Scum’s.
Mena’s push towards me and their vote on me felt as a genuine TvT rather then agenda SvT.
They’ve shared solid takes while some I may disagree on (Bingle/Dann) it comes from a Town PoV from how I see it.

I’m still thinking T3 is Town but I’m also not entirely confident in that.

this all just shows how drap felt about you t3. and honestly looking back at how u townread drap then quickly TOWARDS EOD you decide to pivot onto drap saying drap is scum.

looking at his reads, most of drap reads.. the ones that flipped town except for lukewarm are all in the green / null area.

... drap has just been focused on t3's enternace on howhe hasn't been to sure on shit while t3 just hasn't been contributing anything

honestly im confused atp.

[GrandpaMo]

t3 has been the only one in this game since day 1, that has been so obvious scum and no one just wants to care about him..

even a50 fucking tried, and somehow a50 is no longer with us:(

im not bout to lose to t3!scum

when half of town wasn't listening to a50 or me in day 1 . well at least we did get a vote onto drap scum but honestly i was blinded by t3 / lukewarm in the beginnning and had a consensus that lukewarm could be scum in the back of my head. but honestly seeing what/how t3 developed thru this game, is actually mindboggling. the tendencay to keep pivoting votes and blantaly sheeping. everyone here is scared to push for a t3 elim becasue they bring up a question of hey "does t3 really do this as obvious scum" this whole shit could be a wifom shit show for all we know. pls elim me tmr if im fucking wrong, but 100 percent this flips scum nd u need to trust. because t3 has been ignorning me till NOW which he finally can find a reason to omgus because he has no one other to push to but me.

that actually brings me to another point.

@t3 you call me scum, but you have been voting wit me and agreeing wit my logic for the past days.

so pls explain to me, why the all sudden change. oh i bet you wont answer this question too like all the other questions you have ignorned or deflected. that has cause the anti town behavior in you to shine.

honestly we got a jonny flip and that flipped town. lukewarm says if johnny flipped town >> t3 would be scum which i also said before him and i do agree with that statement as well.

im bout to go iso drap.

Spoiler:

WTF VOTE: pooky

Nice entrance.

Now Bingle, got any other early reads?

Mena slightly scummy, pooky low priority, your slot has tells but I need to wait for the psych evaluation result to determine if they’re scummy or towny. Dann strongest townread. I’d be voting lukewarm if I weren’t voting gypyx, but I think the gypyx wagon is more likely to be spicy atm.

You?

I liked the way Mena went about my slot when they voted me. It doesn’t seem to be “faked” per say. So I would slightly TR Mena there.

I personally like the way VFP has handled the thread. Not much content but it felt genuine. More of a gut read then anything but I trust it at least for now.

T3’s entrance wasn’t entirely bad but it was definitely not a great entrance. I’ll probably watch this slot and it’s progression towards Pooky.

As for Pooky themselves, well. I’m not really sure where to put them. From the majority of what I seen, their agenda is just Sheeping Mena.

I think your first big post (the one with the Psyc Check thing) felt towny. I want to vote with you for now and see where it goes and see further progression towards your slot.

As for Gypyx, I don’t know.
His first post seemed like jealous of me taken his spotlight.
His other posts haven’t really done much.
I believe 3 were Filler and the other was a turn down towards your Psych Plan Bingle. (If I remember correctly.)

Explain your VFP read.

Entrance was aggressively meh, seems to be moderately around and yet is only addressing topics that don't really have substance.

I officially endorse A50 poking this with a stick.

I think their entrance was fine.
Their reaction towards A50 talking about it was also fine and not panicky as scum may be in that scenario.
Like with T3’s entrance, he added “wtf” then votes.
I mean I guess it makes sense if it’s regarding the sheeping but that’s borderline NAI, but I mean it’s not really wolfy, I also believe VFP had a better entrance but I suppose that’s a personal opinion.

As for why I scumlean Professor, it was a combination of a bunch of posts.

Spoiler:

30 / 31 - he joins a joke wagon after the joke played out

35 - he blindly accepted the bingle plan that I still think is bad for town

70 - calls someone out for their rvs vote

96 - jumps on a new gypyx wagon, saying "I can get behind this" without any other information as to why he agreed with it, plus that was the first time he had mentioned gypyx

105 - still harping over T3's rvs vote

113 - this was the thing that made me iso him tbh. Blindly accepts Almost50's (I think) joke post about vfp.

Once I iso'ed him, I saw a lot of evidence that he was just following whatever other people were saying. Jumping on wagons without reason, blindly agreeing with other people when they made posts that I automatically questioned, and harping on someone's rsv vote.

None of them would have stood out individually, but when I iso'ed him there was a bunch of little things that pinged me, and no posts that made me townlean him, so I am happy with that vote for now.

1) I joined it due to Gypyx derailing when Bingle was top wagon.
2) Blindly accepting? I’ve seen that kind of thing done before and I personally have no issues with it.
3) Called them out? I was just making a sarcastic response towards their entrance post.
4) Yeah I wanted to see where it leads and and have no issues voting there as I have no reason to TR Gypyx at all, I explained why I Scum Lean them if you want to go back and read it.
5)I just think worse then Dann’s entrance. I also don’t even think Dann’s entrance is even that bad. T3’s isn’t entirely wolfy but it just isn’t a good entrance I feel.
6) When did I ever say I accept it? Let alone blindly. I just didn’t notice it can be looked that way until he pointed it out.

7)I hope I answered your concerns regarding my “little things”.

As for why I scumlean Professor, it was a combination of a bunch of posts.

Spoiler:

30 / 31 - he joins a joke wagon after the joke played out

35 - he blindly accepted the bingle plan that I still think is bad for town

70 - calls someone out for their rvs vote

96 - jumps on a new gypyx wagon, saying "I can get behind this" without any other information as to why he agreed with it, plus that was the first time he had mentioned gypyx

105 - still harping over T3's rvs vote

113 - this was the thing that made me iso him tbh. Blindly accepts Almost50's (I think) joke post about vfp.

Once I iso'ed him, I saw a lot of evidence that he was just following whatever other people were saying. Jumping on wagons without reason, blindly agreeing with other people when they made posts that I automatically questioned, and harping on someone's rsv vote.

None of them would have stood out individually, but when I iso'ed him there was a bunch of little things that pinged me, and no posts that made me townlean him, so I am happy with that vote for now.

1) I joined it due to Gypyx derailing when Bingle was top wagon.
2) Blindly accepting? I’ve seen that kind of thing done before and I personally have no issues with it.
3) Called them out? I was just making a sarcastic response towards their entrance post.
4) Yeah I wanted to see where it leads and and have no issues voting there as I have no reason to TR Gypyx at all, I explained why I Scum Lean them if you want to go back and read it.
5)I just think worse then Dann’s entrance. I also don’t even think Dann’s entrance is even that bad. T3’s isn’t entirely wolfy but it just isn’t a good entrance I feel.
6) When did I ever say I accept it? Let alone blindly. I just didn’t notice it can be looked that way until he pointed it out.

7)I hope I answered your concerns regarding my “little things”.

Well are there any players that you are currently suspicious of?

Gypyx. The person I’m voting for and stated I have a Scum Lean on?
Null on you but depending on your upcoming content and opinions regarding the main focused slots (such as myself) I should have more of a solid read on you that could or could not be a type of scum read.
Still observing Pooky and T3 carefully.

Actually, I’m gonna change my vote to this.
He calls me out when I call out T3’s entrance as not that great and comparing it with Dann.
Then when T3 votes then he throws T3 in his SR’s.

VOTE: Lukewarm

Professor’s Reads

ProfessorDrapion

Bingle

Menalque

Dannflor

GrandpaMo

VFP

Almost50

PookyTheMagicalBear

T3

ManWithNoName
Pine

Gypyx

Lukewarm

Professor’s Reads

ProfessorDrapion

Bingle

Menalque

Dannflor

GrandpaMo

VFP

Almost50

PookyTheMagicalBear

T3

ManWithNoName
Pine

Gypyx

Lukewarm

Is this ordered? If so, what has you putting Bingle at the very top of you town reads?

Bingle has been exceptionally Townie this game. (Or at least I think so)
They come in with a big post that had lots of production of interacting with.
They seem to be coming in looking for solves rather then coming in looking for agenda.
I like Bingle’s responses he’s been giving as they feel genuine.
Here’s some posts I like:
Post #129 I liked the fact here that Bingle gave a basic rundown of what him “Bingle” would do.
Although I’ve seen Bingle play before and despite me knowing how capable he is to do this as either alignment I feel like it’s still a good look to point him towards receiving that green Rolecard.

Although I do like how he handled Grandpa Mo’s slot on Post #185 while I disagree with the opinion of dislike (as I felt Grandpa was genuine with their analysis) the response Bingle gave to Grandpa didn’t feel like scum agenda but rather Town generally disliking Grandpa’s opinion.

In case you also ask, As for Mena I was concerned with Mena’s early day 1 Bingle thing as despite it technically being a null thing It could also be considered Town motivated or be Scum agenda depending on how they go about it.
And well judging from what I’ve been seeing and how they have treated Bingle I think it comes more from a Town mindset then that off a Scum’s.
Mena’s push towards me and their vote on me felt as a genuine TvT rather then agenda SvT.
They’ve shared solid takes while some I may disagree on (Bingle/Dann) it comes from a Town PoV from how I see it.

I’m still thinking T3 is Town but I’m also not entirely confident in that.

this all just shows how drap felt about you t3. and honestly looking back at how u townread drap then quickly TOWARDS EOD you decide to pivot onto drap saying drap is scum.

looking at his reads, most of drap reads.. the ones that flipped town except for lukewarm are all in the green / null area.

... drap has just been focused on t3's enternace on howhe hasn't been to sure on shit while t3 just hasn't been contributing anything

honestly im confused atp.

[GrandpaMo]

sorry double post; lag.

also broken spoiler tag, so sorry

[T3]

The sudden change was the strange cc. I think what you're saying about the pr vt claiming makes sense, actually. I guess I had some bias because you've been pushing me the entire game. And actually now that I think about it, the fact that you weren't voting Drap D1 is towny. Because at that point if you were scum then you would have voted Drap. About the eod vote by me at this point you'll just have to take my word for it that I thought he was null and then reread. Also, Dannflor was one of my biggest defenders Day 1. Dannflor then dies. I have no reason to kill Dannflor, it only hurts me.

[T3]

Bingle's mechtalk was towny but that's it. NM claimed vt, other than that idk but he hammered Drap.

[T3]

Mena didn't do anything because of rl stuff, then comes back and pushes someone who is now confirmed town.

[Not_Mafia]

Just get rid of the grandpa

I have no idea how to distinguish between Pooky town rage and Pooky scum flail

[T3]

Gypyx Drap interactions are towny.

[GrandpaMo]

The sudden change was the strange cc. I think what you're saying about the pr vt claiming makes sense, actually. I guess I had some bias because you've been pushing me the entire game. And actually now that I think about it, the fact that you weren't voting Drap D1 is towny. Because at that point if you were scum then you would have voted Drap. About the eod vote by me at this point you'll just have to take my word for it that I thought he was null and then reread. Also, Dannflor was one of my biggest defenders Day 1. Dannflor then dies. I have no reason to kill Dannflor, it only hurts me.

Mena didn't do anything because of rl stuff, then comes back and pushes someone who is now confirmed town.

Gypyx Drap interactions are towny.

THANK U T3 HOLY SHIT I FUCKING LOVE U.

I HAVENT ACTUALLY ANAYLYZED ANYTHING YET BUT THANK U

THIS MADE MY DAY

like u just now contributed ur reads to this game, ur 3 days late !!! its okay tho i will excuse the tardiness IF AND ONLY IF they are good reads