Mini Normal 2211 || Summer Meet [Endgame]

[humaneatingmonkey]

i'm sensing desperation, VFP. that's not the mood i'm expecting after lynching scum on D1.

[Egix96]

Anya what do you think

that's half the reason i'm voting osuka tbh

lemons entrance to the stage today is really good and makes some sense

while osuka is statically pushing you like he's an electrician with no other thoughts

Err no, I don't think it is/does.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Osuka can be scum

osuka is your only scumread. how can I not think you'll vote him?

[humaneatingmonkey]

lmao

[osuka]

My solve is already Lemons > osuka > VFP, like, I don't think I'll be able to change my mind about this without external input.

how do you conflate my "chainsaw defense" of lemons with us being scumbuddies? do you seriously think i'm that stupid?

[humaneatingmonkey]

Anya what do you think

that's half the reason i'm voting osuka tbh lemons entrance to the stage today is really good and makes some sense while osuka is statically pushing you like he's an electrician with no other thoughts

if you're me and you rolestopped hem, that vote makes much more sense

hem gets rid of lemons here to make me look bad and gets rid of two people at once, including a PR. he can't kill me lest he implicate himself, so he kills lemons instead and goes "how did osuka know that flip was green"

i kinda sorta have a soft clear on lemons unless there's some other protective role or roleblocker that's unclaimed. if that's the case, i might have this all wrong but please please please don't claim

lmaoo

[osuka]

i'm sensing desperation, VFP. that's not the mood i'm expecting after lynching scum on D1.

???

[osuka]

Anya what do you think

that's half the reason i'm voting osuka tbh lemons entrance to the stage today is really good and makes some sense while osuka is statically pushing you like he's an electrician with no other thoughts

if you're me and you rolestopped hem, that vote makes much more sense

hem gets rid of lemons here to make me look bad and gets rid of two people at once, including a PR. he can't kill me lest he implicate himself, so he kills lemons instead and goes "how did osuka know that flip was green"

i kinda sorta have a soft clear on lemons unless there's some other protective role or roleblocker that's unclaimed. if that's the case, i might have this all wrong but please please please don't claim

lmaoo

have at it

if you have something of substance to say about this, which i doubt, please make sure your brain doesn't catch fire when you try to put it into words. i don't wanna have to call an ambulance

[osuka]

if _that_ isn't caught scum then i dont know what the fuck is

[humaneatingmonkey]

do you seriously think i'm that stupid?

i don't know man. I've only been playing one game with you but your reputation precedes you and it does not disappoint.

[VFP]

i'm sensing desperation, VFP. that's not the mood i'm expecting after lynching scum on D1.

Desperation from who?
Also, I asked what makes Uma town here outside of the Bugs vote.

[humaneatingmonkey]

You're talking as if I've spent 5 days straight saying x is scum and I'm not sure where this is coming from or why you want to instantly shut this down?

this feels like frustration. is it not?

[Ivyeo]

Anya what do you think

that's half the reason i'm voting osuka tbh lemons entrance to the stage today is really good and makes some sense while osuka is statically pushing you like he's an electrician with no other thoughts

if you're me and you rolestopped hem, that vote makes much more sense

hem gets rid of lemons here to make me look bad and gets rid of two people at once, including a PR. he can't kill me lest he implicate himself, so he kills lemons instead and goes "how did osuka know that flip was green"

i kinda sorta have a soft clear on lemons unless there's some other protective role or roleblocker that's unclaimed. if that's the case, i might have this all wrong but please please please don't claim

So Lemons was the protect? just to be absolutely clear?

[VFP]

Osuka can be scum

osuka is your only scumread. how can I not think you'll vote him?

No? I have said and had Uma and Ivy in the plausible scumm pool since yesterday.

[Ivyeo]

With how many people suspect Osuka, and with them claiming a protect, their flip is no only likely scum, but also gives us valuable info

[humaneatingmonkey]

Ah I see. I'm sorry for the misunderstanding. So today, you scumread Ivyeo, Umlaut and would probably vote between there — but you think he could be town and you don't want to say why?
How come you don't want to say why?

[VFP]

You're talking as if I've spent 5 days straight saying x is scum and I'm not sure where this is coming from or why you want to instantly shut this down?

this feels like frustration. is it not?

Of course I'm going to be frustrated if you're saying I'm doing nothing but pushing Osuka when Osuka has been on the lower parts of my comments today.

[InsidiousLemons]

is this within Lemons scum range?

@Anya

, since you've shown that you use meta and you vouch for Lemons, would you kindly do the honors? I'm absolutely tunneled here, and even if I feel like this vulnerability could never come from scum, I'm almost certain it can. I also objectively think Lemons was outright scummy yesterday.

@Umlaut

, would you kindly tell me what you think about this one?

Lemons, is your solve osuka > VFP? Can you tell me who your solve is?

i'm leaning osuka > vfp, yeah. i mentioned the (slight) equity between them already, and his recent push on umlaut doesn't help, but honestly my reasons are mostly PoE. for D2 there are a surprising number of players we can mostly clear:

- you, anya and umlaut are clear for yeeting bugspray in 0.25 seconds
- ivy is clear for also helping to do that and by reason of probably not being bugs' partner (see umlaut's 1212 and my 1223)
- T3 also doesn't make much sense with bugs scum

so this leaves us with egix96, dunnstral, geraintm, osuka, vfp. of these, dunn is a townlean due to the timing of the vt claim and egix96 has been a mild but consistent townlean for me. this is mostly gut but i get such good egg vibes from him. i can't really put my finger on

why

i feel good about egix but he just doesn't really ping for me.

so my order for the non-clears looks like osuka > vfp > gerain > egix > dunn

i recognize that i'm kind of sheeping umlaut on a lot of this reasoning but dude makes some solid points what can i say

p-edit i started writing this post, walked away and now there's been a lot more. i'm kind of in the middle of something so i'm gonna make a few quick points then come back

[InsidiousLemons]

as far as meta goes i'm sad to say i haven't rolled scum since i was 14, so there's not really an established scum range for me.

[humaneatingmonkey]

i'm sad to say i haven't rolled scum since i was 14

this is sad

[VFP]

Ah I see. I'm sorry for the misunderstanding. So today, you scumread Ivyeo, Umlaut and would probably vote between there — but you think he could be town and you don't want to say why?
How come you don't want to say why?

Stop role fishing.

[humaneatingmonkey]

:O No! VFP! You're a PR?! :O

[humaneatingmonkey]

We lynch between VFP and osuka today.

[humaneatingmonkey]

I think osuka first, as to clear the WIFOM Night 1 created.

[VFP]

Last game I was basically shut down for saying Osuka was scum.
I was right.
I was shot down for saying Anya was scum. I was right.

Then you wonder why you trying to shut me down here frustrates me?
Why is Uma town outside of the Bugs vote?