Newbie 2065 | The Backrooms | Endgame

[MixLixWix]

VOTE: wayward son

serious vote

The naked vote with the word serious shook me so bad I had to go self medicate!

Do you think it's significant alignment wise though?

[Lukewarm]

Egix was in it, and I wanted a baseline meta read. You being in it was an added plus.

Is this your first game?

I never thought about meta reads until after I saw other people doing it tbh.

[Lukewarm]

Not that I can prove it but I've never RVSed a scum buddy.

That definitely varies from person to person though, I knew a couple of people irl who would always vote for their scum partner day 1

Granted, they weren't very

good

at the game, but that's just because they were predictable, so it's better to switch it up
VOTE: Wayward Son

I cannot articulate why, but this post feels off to me

[MixLixWix]

Not that I can prove it but I've never RVSed a scum buddy.

That definitely varies from person to person though, I knew a couple of people irl who would always vote for their scum partner day 1

Granted, they weren't very

good

at the game, but that's just because they were predictable, so it's better to switch it up
VOTE: Wayward Son

I cannot articulate why, but this post feels off to me

Let's try. Is it the entire post or one section of it?

[Lukewarm]

Not that I can prove it but I've never RVSed a scum buddy.

That definitely varies from person to person though, I knew a couple of people irl who would always vote for their scum partner day 1

Granted, they weren't very

good

at the game, but that's just because they were predictable, so it's better to switch it up
VOTE: Wayward Son

I cannot articulate why, but this post feels off to me

Let's try. Is it the entire post or one section of it?

I think it is that she did not really address any thoughts about reading him, but then still dropped a vote. Like, if she thinks he is scummy, I would have expected that in the post.

[Lukewarm]

Not that I can prove it but I've never RVSed a scum buddy.

That definitely varies from person to person though, I knew a couple of people irl who would always vote for their scum partner day 1

Granted, they weren't very

good

at the game, but that's just because they were predictable, so it's better to switch it up
VOTE: Wayward Son

I cannot articulate why, but this post feels off to me

Let's try. Is it the entire post or one section of it?

I think it is that she did not really address any thoughts about reading him, but then still dropped a vote. Like, if she thinks he is scummy, I would have expected that in the post.

I guess, unless that was supposed to be a RVS vote?

But because she quoted him, and responded to a conversation about him, it did not feel like that to me.

It is walking a weird line between not looking like a RVS vote, but also not looking like a proper FoS vote.

[MixLixWix]

Not that I can prove it but I've never RVSed a scum buddy.

That definitely varies from person to person though, I knew a couple of people irl who would always vote for their scum partner day 1

Granted, they weren't very

good

at the game, but that's just because they were predictable, so it's better to switch it up
VOTE: Wayward Son

I cannot articulate why, but this post feels off to me

Let's try. Is it the entire post or one section of it?

I think it is that she did not really address any thoughts about reading him, but then still dropped a vote.

Like, if she thinks he is scummy, I would have expected that in the post

.

Hmm I can see that since the discussion is just the theory of mafia voting mafia in rvs.

I have a different take on the bold though, but I'm curious now to explore it given how little there is.

@Zyla, why did you drop the vote on Wayward on that post?

[MixLixWix]

Not that I can prove it but I've never RVSed a scum buddy.

That definitely varies from person to person though, I knew a couple of people irl who would always vote for their scum partner day 1

Granted, they weren't very

good

at the game, but that's just because they were predictable, so it's better to switch it up
VOTE: Wayward Son

I cannot articulate why, but this post feels off to me

Let's try. Is it the entire post or one section of it?

I think it is that she did not really address any thoughts about reading him, but then still dropped a vote. Like, if she thinks he is scummy, I would have expected that in the post.

I guess, unless that was supposed to be a RVS vote?

But because she quoted him, and responded to a conversation about him, it did not feel like that to me.

It is walking a weird line between not looking like a RVS vote, but also not looking like a proper FoS vote.

Ok well now that you said it I'll reveal it. That's what I took it as.

I thought it was basically trying to start a early bandwagon on Wayward. That's why it didn't really concern me when I first read it. I'm not sure what to make of it quite now with the fluffy theory stuff, but I strongly feel that zyla didn't feel Wayward to be scum there.

[Zyla]

I'll be honest, I wasn't even thinking about the fact that I was responding to the person I was voting, I just used a random picker and got Wayward's name

[MixLixWix]

Hmm well I guess then I'm not sure how to explore it further.

In other news I like 29 -> 30 from Lukewarm.

[Gypyx]

votecount 1.1

Lukewarm (1) : MixLixWix
Zyla (1) : Lukewarm
MixLixWix (1) : Egix96
Egix96 (1) : Wayward Son
Wayward Son (2) : The Bugle - Zyla


Not Voting (3) : Opposit3s - Xlos - T3

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2021-06-05 02:11:15), with 9 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate someone

info

Opposit3s have (expired on 2021-05-27 02:11:15) to pick up their role PM before being replaced

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Spoiler:

an undetermined entity in level 2

[MixLixWix]

Hmm

UNVOTE: lukewarm
VOTE: Wayward Son

carry on

[T3]

Bulge, what particularly stuck out to you about that? What stuck out to me was mostly that it was a brand newbie supposedly having read a bunch of games. This reads to me as if almost fake helpful and as if it was fed by a scumpartner.

[The Bulge]

tbh I probably would have ignored 9 if it weren't for the "...yet" bit lol

their reaction to my vote is extremely newbscum too. and their whole attitude since then almost gives off an air of "oh yea? well you can't

prove

I'm scum" and it reeks.

I didn't think much of the pre-game meta homework but I'd buy that it was fed from a more experienced. scumpartner.

[The Bulge]

I really like mixlixwix's dissection of zyla's vote. her post stood out to me as well.

[Lukewarm]

VOTE: T3

This is based purely off of Meta, but I am like 75% sure T3 is scum this game

[Zyla]

tbh I probably would have ignored 9 if it weren't for the "...yet" bit lol

their reaction to my vote is extremely newbscum too. and their whole attitude since then almost gives off an air of "oh yea? well you can't

prove

I'm scum" and it reeks.

I didn't think much of the pre-game meta homework but I'd buy that it was fed from a more experienced. scumpartner.

Honestly, while that is a possibility, there's also the fact that that are 2 possible role-sets that include masons, so it could be a townpartner as well

[MixLixWix]

I really like mixlixwix's dissection of zyla's vote. her post stood out to me as well.

What's your take on Lukewarm's posts about Zyla?

[MixLixWix]

tbh I probably would have ignored 9 if it weren't for the "...yet" bit lol

their reaction to my vote is extremely newbscum too. and their whole attitude since then almost gives off an air of "oh yea? well you can't

prove

I'm scum" and it reeks.

I didn't think much of the pre-game meta homework but I'd buy that it was fed from a more experienced. scumpartner.

Honestly, while that is a possibility, there's also the fact that that are 2 possible role-sets that include masons, so it could be a townpartner as well

Why would a town Mason give that info to their Mason buddy who then telegraphs that discussion? Wouldn't they be more likely to discuss it in their thingy rather than having Wayward talk about it in thread?

Genuine question. Masons are weird.

[Lukewarm]

Bulge, what particularly stuck out to you about that? What stuck out to me was mostly that it was a brand newbie supposedly having read a bunch of games. This reads to me as if almost fake helpful and as if it was fed by a scumpartner.

Town T3 quite simply does not make this post imo.

Town T3 spends the first half of Day 1 posting vague reads. Like look at the first 4 posts in his iso in every one of the town games I have seen him in:

Spoiler:

1
2
3

These are the ones where he started Day 1, I have played a few games with him where he replaced in, and even in those he is the same way, but I just linked the most similar situations

Now compare that to scum T3

Spoiler:

From my experience early gutreads tend to be from town. Also, this seems to be his first game in a number of years and not what I would expect from a brand newbie.
Demainer's entrance feels very forced, and nothing like 2060 where he came into the game cheerfully, scumread some people. Here he just votes Ivy (in an apparently serious vote) and says he somehow knows she is scum.
VOTE: Demainer

Town T3, shows up, reads the thread, and keeps the thread up to date with his current reads without engaging with those reads a ton. He is much more of a passive player quietly trying to solve by himself.

Scum T3 writes a full length post trying to help a scum read float towards an elimination.

[Zyla]

tbh I probably would have ignored 9 if it weren't for the "...yet" bit lol

their reaction to my vote is extremely newbscum too. and their whole attitude since then almost gives off an air of "oh yea? well you can't

prove

I'm scum" and it reeks.

I didn't think much of the pre-game meta homework but I'd buy that it was fed from a more experienced. scumpartner.

Honestly, while that is a possibility, there's also the fact that that are 2 possible role-sets that include masons, so it could be a townpartner as well

Why would a town Mason give that info to their Mason buddy who then telegraphs that discussion? Wouldn't they be more likely to discuss it in their thingy rather than having Wayward talk about it in thread?

Genuine question. Masons are weird.

Mostly I'm suggesting the possibility that the other Mason might have suggested that they read up on games that the other players played in, and they just happened to share the fact that they read up

[T3]

Bulge, what particularly stuck out to you about that? What stuck out to me was mostly that it was a brand newbie supposedly having read a bunch of games. This reads to me as if almost fake helpful and as if it was fed by a scumpartner.

Town T3 quite simply does not make this post imo.

Town T3 spends the first half of Day 1 posting vague reads. Like look at the first 4 posts in his iso in every one of the town games I have seen him in:

Spoiler:

1
2
3

These are the ones where he started Day 1, I have played a few games with him where he replaced in, and even in those he is the same way, but I just linked the most similar situations

Now compare that to scum T3

Spoiler:

From my experience early gutreads tend to be from town. Also, this seems to be his first game in a number of years and not what I would expect from a brand newbie.
Demainer's entrance feels very forced, and nothing like 2060 where he came into the game cheerfully, scumread some people. Here he just votes Ivy (in an apparently serious vote) and says he somehow knows she is scum.
VOTE: Demainer

Town T3, shows up, reads the thread, and keeps the thread up to date with his current reads without engaging with those reads a ton. He is much more of a passive player quietly trying to solve by himself.

Scum T3 writes a full length post trying to help a scum read float towards an elimination.

I think that's fair, but you should also note that the Demainer vote was a bus. So your theory only works if I'm scum with Wayward.

[Lukewarm]

Bulge, what particularly stuck out to you about that? What stuck out to me was mostly that it was a brand newbie supposedly having read a bunch of games. This reads to me as if almost fake helpful and as if it was fed by a scumpartner.

Town T3 quite simply does not make this post imo.

Town T3 spends the first half of Day 1 posting vague reads. Like look at the first 4 posts in his iso in every one of the town games I have seen him in:
{snip}

Now compare that to scum T3
{snip}

Town T3, shows up, reads the thread, and keeps the thread up to date with his current reads without engaging with those reads a ton. He is much more of a passive player quietly trying to solve by himself.

Scum T3 writes a full length post trying to help a scum read float towards an elimination.

I think that's fair, but you should also note that the Demainer vote was a bus. So your theory only works if I'm scum with Wayward.

Possibly. My verdict is still out on Wayward. I really need to see more from him tbh

But I am not 100% sure that it being a bus is required. I was mainly looking at the first time you made a post with both the purpose and the length of 37

For example 1, it was post 266. Example 2, it was post 399. Example 3, it was post 367.

But in your scum game it was post 22.

So my conclusion is that you approach your scum games with an agenda that is simply not there in your town games, and that shows in how you post.

I am pretty sure that you are the person I have played the most games with on this site, so I would hope I am getting at least a little bit of a meta sense for you. Although I am not sure how to go about pushing a meta read tbh...

So I think I am going to leave my vote on you. I have put all of the meta out here for other people to look at and draw their own conclusions.

[Lukewarm]

I think that's fair, but you should also note that the Demainer vote was a bus. So your theory only works if I'm scum with Wayward.

This is also a

weird

defense imo.

Like, "the thing you are scum reading me for makes sense, but lets flip Wayward first"

If you are Town, and think that Wayward is scum, then this is a terrible defense. You are basically setting yourself up for a miselim Day 2 after a scum flip from Wayward.

But if you are Scum, and you know that Wayward is town, then this is position makes more sense. Flip him first, and use that to dismiss my meta case against you all in one go.

[MixLixWix]

tbh I probably would have ignored 9 if it weren't for the "...yet" bit lol

their reaction to my vote is extremely newbscum too. and their whole attitude since then almost gives off an air of "oh yea? well you can't

prove

I'm scum" and it reeks.

I didn't think much of the pre-game meta homework but I'd buy that it was fed from a more experienced. scumpartner.

Honestly, while that is a possibility, there's also the fact that that are 2 possible role-sets that include masons, so it could be a townpartner as well

Why would a town Mason give that info to their Mason buddy who then telegraphs that discussion? Wouldn't they be more likely to discuss it in their thingy rather than having Wayward talk about it in thread?

Genuine question. Masons are weird.

Mostly I'm suggesting the possibility that the other Mason might have suggested that they read up on games that the other players played in, and they just happened to share the fact that they read up

Fair enough I suppose. I don't think it's possible to really gleam much from it thinking about more in depth.

Do you have any feelings about anyone so far?