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Post Post #4900 (ISO) » Sat May 29, 2021 7:52 am

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Okay, so now's the time for me to come up with a general strategy for engaging with 200-page games.

Here's what I'll try: First I'll look at mod iso to make sure I know what's happened. Then I'll skim each player's ISO to pick up on vibes and identify moments of conflict. I'll look into each moment to try and build a take. And then I'll read the last 10-20 pages or so to figure out which takes are relevant. Then I'll post a set of reads and people will maybe tell me they're terrible and that'll drive further reading.

And that'll still take forever but it'll take less time
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Post Post #4901 (ISO) » Sat May 29, 2021 7:54 am

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In post 4898, SirCakez wrote:
In post 4895, Toadette wrote:Psyche's wagon composition is terrible and my wagon is low-key townie lol
there's two people what are you even talking about
You also sus me and seem townie!
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Post Post #4902 (ISO) » Sat May 29, 2021 8:39 am

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In post 4900, Psyche wrote:Okay, so now's the time for me to come up with a general strategy for engaging with 200-page games.

Here's what I'll try: First I'll look at mod iso to make sure I know what's happened. Then I'll skim each player's ISO to pick up on vibes and identify moments of conflict. I'll look into each moment to try and build a take. And then I'll read the last 10-20 pages or so to figure out which takes are relevant. Then I'll post a set of reads and people will maybe tell me they're terrible and that'll drive further reading.

And that'll still take forever but it'll take less time
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Post Post #4903 (ISO) » Sat May 29, 2021 8:42 am

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In post 4899, Raya36 wrote:
In post 4897, flow trap wrote:
In post 4885, Raya36 wrote:
In post 4880, Brave Heart Lion wrote:
In post 4878, SirCakez wrote:in multiball you mean? it doesn't mean much to say "well this scum pushed me therefore I can't be scum" because you could just be scum on the other team
In pookys case

Being pushed by both dogs and cats, and him pushing both are being completely ignored.
Good catch. I took a look and my thoughts are below. I think I want to put pooky up a group into the blue

Spoiler: pooky interactions
Norway: nothing partner clearing from norway, pooky lightly called norway out twice which felt more like shading than distancing (don't get what he's doing, norway can do something useful like..)
Chara: speaking about not noticing pooky's post felt unaligned, voted Pooky, pushed and challenged pooky in a way that didn't feel like partners
Firebringer: nothing partner clearing (although their interactions didn't feel partner-y)
Dwlee: scumread pooky in a natural way that appeared to be cat hunting, stayed consistent, pooky called dwlee scummy too
Hasn't pooky been saying that
Maybe, I can't remember. I take stuff like that less seriously when it's self-defense though
Why, that seems not useful
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Post Post #4904 (ISO) » Sat May 29, 2021 8:43 am

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Finding that ISO skimming is useless without context. Probably instead best to decide salience based on votes and recency.
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Post Post #4905 (ISO) » Sat May 29, 2021 8:58 am

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Yeah, I ISOd Flow and I didn't understand 30% of what they were saying
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Post Post #4906 (ISO) » Sat May 29, 2021 9:05 am

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In post 431, flow trap wrote:
In post 55, xofelf wrote:
In post 49, Nero Cain wrote:Stop the fluff you worthless maggots. none of you are dogs or lizards or anything else you think you are. You are nothing but cannon fodder that's ready to sacrifice themselves at a moments notice for my army.
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Post Post #4907 (ISO) » Sat May 29, 2021 9:07 am

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In post 4903, flow trap wrote:
In post 4899, Raya36 wrote:
In post 4897, flow trap wrote:
In post 4885, Raya36 wrote:
In post 4880, Brave Heart Lion wrote:
In post 4878, SirCakez wrote:in multiball you mean? it doesn't mean much to say "well this scum pushed me therefore I can't be scum" because you could just be scum on the other team
In pookys case

Being pushed by both dogs and cats, and him pushing both are being completely ignored.
Good catch. I took a look and my thoughts are below. I think I want to put pooky up a group into the blue

Spoiler: pooky interactions
Norway: nothing partner clearing from norway, pooky lightly called norway out twice which felt more like shading than distancing (don't get what he's doing, norway can do something useful like..)
Chara: speaking about not noticing pooky's post felt unaligned, voted Pooky, pushed and challenged pooky in a way that didn't feel like partners
Firebringer: nothing partner clearing (although their interactions didn't feel partner-y)
Dwlee: scumread pooky in a natural way that appeared to be cat hunting, stayed consistent, pooky called dwlee scummy too
Hasn't pooky been saying that
Maybe, I can't remember. I take stuff like that less seriously when it's self-defense though
Why, that seems not useful
Well I don't really mean to, it's more subconscious.
In post 4905, flow trap wrote:Yeah, I ISOd Flow and I didn't understand 30% of what they were saying
You say that as a joke but there's a reason you're still in my null pile :lol:
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Post Post #4908 (ISO) » Sat May 29, 2021 9:23 am

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In post 4907, Raya36 wrote:
In post 4903, flow trap wrote:
In post 4899, Raya36 wrote:
In post 4897, flow trap wrote:
In post 4885, Raya36 wrote:
In post 4880, Brave Heart Lion wrote:
In post 4878, SirCakez wrote:in multiball you mean? it doesn't mean much to say "well this scum pushed me therefore I can't be scum" because you could just be scum on the other team
In pookys case

Being pushed by both dogs and cats, and him pushing both are being completely ignored.
Good catch. I took a look and my thoughts are below. I think I want to put pooky up a group into the blue

Spoiler: pooky interactions
Norway: nothing partner clearing from norway, pooky lightly called norway out twice which felt more like shading than distancing (don't get what he's doing, norway can do something useful like..)
Chara: speaking about not noticing pooky's post felt unaligned, voted Pooky, pushed and challenged pooky in a way that didn't feel like partners
Firebringer: nothing partner clearing (although their interactions didn't feel partner-y)
Dwlee: scumread pooky in a natural way that appeared to be cat hunting, stayed consistent, pooky called dwlee scummy too
Hasn't pooky been saying that
Maybe, I can't remember. I take stuff like that less seriously when it's self-defense though
Why, that seems not useful
Well I don't really mean to, it's more subconscious.
In post 4905, flow trap wrote:Yeah, I ISOd Flow and I didn't understand 30% of what they were saying
You say that as a joke but there's a reason you're still in my null pile :lol:
:giggle: Yeah... A joke
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Post Post #4909 (ISO) » Sat May 29, 2021 12:19 pm

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Post Post #4910 (ISO) » Sat May 29, 2021 9:25 pm

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Vote:Psyche


PoE read but tbh I still think Brave is the better lynch today.

Honestly I think we can win on PoE alone
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Post Post #4911 (ISO) » Sat May 29, 2021 9:26 pm

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In post 4887, Toadette wrote:
In post 4874, Shiro wrote:toad can you elaborate more as to how you are anti town?
Please don't call me toad it makes me feel misgendered
I will refraiun from doing os, my bad.
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Post Post #4912 (ISO) » Sat May 29, 2021 10:32 pm

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Post Post #4913 (ISO) » Sat May 29, 2021 10:33 pm

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I think Fen has a high probability of flipping anti-town, and I think so with Pooky as well. I know that Pooky can't be Dog, but with how yesterday with Titus and now with Psyche who hasn't had a chance to get into the game. Just kinda stinks of opportunism.
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Post Post #4914 (ISO) » Sat May 29, 2021 11:28 pm

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Pooky is also defenitly scum imo
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Post Post #4915 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 12:26 am

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I'm really not seeing the scum pooky deal and nobodys ever really summed it up for me so I'm assuming its BS.
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Post Post #4916 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 12:49 am

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Post Post #4917 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 1:53 am

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In post 4914, Shiro wrote:Pooky is also defenitly scum imo
Please elaborate
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Post Post #4918 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 1:55 am

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In post 4913, kdowns wrote:I think Fen has a high probability of flipping anti-town, and I think so with Pooky as well. I know that Pooky can't be Dog, but with how yesterday with Titus and now with Psyche who hasn't had a chance to get into the game. Just kinda stinks of opportunism.
Who is Fen?
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Post Post #4919 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 1:56 am

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psyche's been in the game for 3 days now with 0 caught fish and is acting like someone who didn't know he was entering a 200 page game when he decided to do it

likely he'd be getting more embroiled as town but since he's wolf he's trying to motivate himself to sift through the leaves but with less energy
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Post Post #4920 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 2:05 am

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In post 4918, flow trap wrote:
In post 4913, kdowns wrote:I think Fen has a high probability of flipping anti-town, and I think so with Pooky as well. I know that Pooky can't be Dog, but with how yesterday with Titus and now with Psyche who hasn't had a chance to get into the game. Just kinda stinks of opportunism.
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Post Post #4921 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 5:23 am

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In post 4901, Toadette wrote:
In post 4898, SirCakez wrote:
In post 4895, Toadette wrote:Psyche's wagon composition is terrible and my wagon is low-key townie lol
there's two people what are you even talking about
You also sus me and seem townie!
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Post Post #4922 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 5:24 am

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frankly I'd elim pretty much anyone on the table at this point none of them strike me as very town
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Post Post #4923 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 6:04 am

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STD I find a little more towny than Psyche's slot, but both scummish
If Shiro is confident about the difference I'd be willing to sheep her. Do you feel strongly Shiro?
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Post Post #4924 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 6:38 am

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In post 4919, Anya wrote:psyche's been in the game for 3 days now with 0 caught fish and is acting like someone who didn't know he was entering a 200 page game when he decided to do it

likely he'd be getting more embroiled as town but since he's wolf he's trying to motivate himself to sift through the leaves but with less energy
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