Mini Normal 2211 || Summer Meet [Endgame]

[geraintm]

right now, i have nothing to offer the game except my claim. i find it incredibly hard/impossible to find scum day 1. i do try and get better as the game goes on though...

for someone who fell back on this defense repeatedly, does it strike anyone else as strange that the overwhelming majority of gerain's posts are from... D1? look at his ISO. he's literally posted 11 times since EoD1 and we're on D3 now. does that seem like someone "trying to get better as the game goes on"?

gerain, you've managed pretty consistently to fly under the radar so far, so i think it's past due that you get your fair share of scrutiny and pressure. the only real thing going for you seems to be that you hammered bugspray, which happened after it was very clear egix was going to do it anyway. got other reasons i should believe you're town?

Day 2 I checked in, then due to timings the game moved on very quickly.
I did my read of the day 1 wagon, pretty much no one responded to it because everyone was fixated on the elimination that happened.
That os why day 2 had so few posts.

Day 3...it is a Bank Holiday weekend here and I don't have as much time to get onto a computer.
I'm back at work tomorrow.

[InsidiousLemons]

i'm considering it but not heavily. i'm not great with balance either but this townside doesn't look strong enough to me to merit a 4th member of the mafia. fruit vendor casts doubt on friendly neighbour, PT cop can get a false innocent and two false guilties, and both the masons and the friendly neighbour can only clear themselves through tying themselves to another player. if you're a setup designer, does this make you go "hmm, town is looking pretty beefy, i should probably add another scum"? i think it's much more likely that the answer is the reverse.

p-edit: @1624

[humaneatingmonkey]

huh? what did you just type, Lemons?

[humaneatingmonkey]

VOTE: Lemons

[InsidiousLemons]

my thoughts? i don't get it

[humaneatingmonkey]

Found this on the Traitor page of Mafiawiki:

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Traitor

Try fakeclaiming an incriminating result on some random Townie in order to score a free mislim.

[InsidiousLemons]

okay? am i being thick? what does that have to do with anything?

[humaneatingmonkey]

I'll tell you later why I voted you Lemons. For now, read the Traitor page on the wiki.

[T3]

....???

[Egix96]

Egix, who did you target N1?

No one. I'm even night.

[InsidiousLemons]

i'll tell you later why this makes no goddamn sense hem. for now, read the nutrition facts on the back of a cereal box.

just in case you were trying to send me some kind of coded message, i actually went back and reread the whole article (you'll recall that i quoted it myself earlier this game), and the only thing that stuck out to me was this, which only further supports my own theory that there are 2.5 rather than 3.5 scum:

Note that if there is a Traitor in the game, this implies that the main Mafia group is undersized by one.

[Egix96]

#124 & #126 & #132 could be early evidence that Andante is PR or at least trying to give the impression that they're PR.

Imho those are fairly standard posts and I wouldn't take them to be PR softs.

[VFP]

What do you mean by "generally"?

Why did you target HEM?

I mean that this is how I've seen it other than 1 game, which wasn't a normal.

And because Human was just lining up lims yesterday. The fact Osuka was Human just meant scum believed Osuka was town. That was my mind set more or less.
Scum Human / Ivy isn't a thing though with these claims.

[Anya]

VOTE: vfp

yeah that does sound like too much powerings for town

[InsidiousLemons]

what do you mean by "the fact osuka was human"? at what point do you think scum became aware osuka was one of their own, if ever?

[Anya]

there's no way there's that many ways to shine the spotlight on roles right

a pt cop 2 masons and a neighbour friend

[Anya]

masons and the neighbour friends are confirmed bc there's only 1 wolf left so it has to be the PT cop

[Anya]

wolf pt cop can find masons so it checks out i think

[VFP]

I just saw the FN claim.
I think this game is solved then.

Lim me.
Lim in the masons
If fake lim the other Mason, if real, it's just Dunn and Egix.

Both pairs have credit to lie on the roles.
Masons were just caught if scum
Egix is the lim if claiming VT.

Do it in that order as town won't have FN's and Masons

VOTE: VFP

[InsidiousLemons]

i disagree. as i said, pt cop can get as many false guilties as they can true guilties. i think the setup was intended to create wifom in the later days via fruit vendor/FN interplay and PT cop/mason interplay, and we managed to outpace it by offing 2 scum early.

p-edit this is dumb we don't need to lim you

[VFP]

My lim proves that we have 2 scum though.

[VFP]

It's possible that Dunn or Ivy is just a traitor covering for their buddy.
Ivy less so because I can confirm that. No PT means both guilty.

[Anya]

how would 4 wolves in a 12 player game ever be fair

they win by just getting two misbrutalexecutions if they don't nightkill traitors

that could happen like almost half the time

[Anya]

i hope monkeyman and ivy aren't actually neighbours going to a theme park and getting high

bc then vfp would be town

[humaneatingmonkey]

i promise we're masons