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[osuka]

i lied about catching up i tried reading everything and it's making my eyes glaze over i'm just going to roll with my gut

VOTE: petapan

inclined to sheep this but i do want to at least make an effort to catch up

[osuka]

VOTE: osuka

what the fuck did i do?

[osuka]

everyone is saying he is town but i dont think so

VOTE: osuka

hey andres you seem to have misplaced one of your sheep

it's out here saying stupid shit, please come pick it up

[osuka]

i find myself currently wondering if rathe is physically incapable of ceasing to make posts that kill my brain cells

[Dwlee99]

I also want to know, pete, what kind of meta you're smoking if you're that sure DGB is town. Okay, so it opened with a post about setups being fucky and you townread it for that, sure, but what has DGB done since then? I've quoted all of the non-mech related stuff here

Spoiler: dgb posts

VOTE: Dwlee99

lol nero and dwlee are absolutely howling right now

yes

VOTE: kyouko

everyone is saying he is town but i dont think so

VOTE: osuka

I agree with you

Titus, Kyoko is scum.

Titus, Kyoko is scum.

From what was said in the PT or from main game?

Both

oops i just dropped my

491 revolver

that i use for cooking betting go into my workshop

gun room

so i can get a replacement before

petapan

does

still waiting on whatever happened in that pt, this is important

for the first day it was just me posting in there asking if anyone else was there bc i couldn't tell and also wasn't sure whether everyone in there is town or not

and then kyouko showed up and started jokingly claiming wolf but in a really weird way it was like he had a guilty conscious and wanted to get it off his chest but try and make it look like a joke

i'll give you a paraphrased example of what he said: "Sup I haven't played scum before but I'm gonna be pocketing you, it's nothing personal and I won't mind if you push me ftr"

and then i questioned him on it and he jokingly deflected and eventually said he was completely joking and he's definitely town but the way he's nervously declaring himself a city dweller feels really weird

Idk everything in that pt feels like a joke, like anya is crumbing all kinds of different roles but she crumbed traitor first and I think she's just crumbing others now to throw me off. I'm just going to keep an EYE on her tonight and by eye I mean GUN

I believe you.

VOTE: Anya

What here is so townie? What even is the progression from 406, 412, and 424? It makes no sense, and neither does strongly townreading DGB no matter what meta you think you might have or how townie you think its opening post was.

[osuka]

in other news i think nero is likely to be town, even if i'm not quite sure if i agree that nom is scum

[Titus]

so, with regard to setup stuff, i would recommend looking at the roles in gypyx's previous two normal games:

mini 2169: random facts
mini 2180: fake peoples

gypyx is probably the most distinctive mod working in the normal queue right now, in that he really likes to play around with modifiers and combined roles and have atypical power distributions in his setups. expect claims to be wacky bullshit. here's a list of the town PRs in those games (avert your eyes here if you're DGB):

Town Combined Mailman Vanilla Cop
Role Watcher Neighbor
Town Ascetic Indecisive Doctor Neighbour
Town 1-shot Bulletproof Vengeful
Town Novice 3-shot Vigilante

Town Roaming Detective
Town Backup Roleblocker
Town Lazy Odd-night Tracker Even-night Motion Detector
Town Combined Roleblocker Friendly Neighbor
Town Disloyal Hider

in mini 2180, my scumteam was very easily able to exploit people making bad assumptions about the setup balance in order to get easy eliminations ("surely there aren't two investigative roles in the setup, right? that's too much town power"). i want to make sure that doesn't happen this game, so i'm informing people now so they don't go off making bad assumptions and getting weirded out by claims this game. you can bet your ass as scum i never out this because i'm the only one in this playerlist who's played in a game he's hosted, and keeping this sort of info hidden has significantly more benefit for scum as it allows people to make dumb assumptions about claims

This is your mod meta post.

This is just mods do crazy shit.

This isn't applicable to anything.

Might as well be citing the hairy hand case from law school and talk about the various types of damages.

[petapan]

I feel reasonably good about the following people being town:

DrippingGoofball - don't see scum opening he game that way, really committed to its wacky plan, seemingly arising out of frustration with trollish setups
Titus - is being Titusy, where what she says might not make sense there's real

conviction

behind what she's saying. i will probably inevitably get paranoid and doubt this when she continues to push some case i really hate but i will enjoy the moment of townreading her while it lasts
T3 - is like someone doing a dollar store Cogito Ergo Sum impression, with none of the underlying skill as a mafia player. votes don't feel bullshitty or opportunistic.
VFP - lie the way he came into the game, questioning pretty much everyone but in a way the seems purposeful and solvey

I lean toward town on the following people:
Andresvmb - liked the opener, positive start, seems geared toward solving but want to see a little more still
nomnomnom - came in speaking reasonably, somewhat concerned that he seemed a little fencesitty toward me arguing with nero but i've liked the way he's been approaching the ame so far
Rathe - just a gut call off the stream-of-cosniousness-y spam
Save The Dragons - weaker read but sort of wouldn't expect scum to openly admit to being lazy and not reading when voting me when that could easily get them attacked for opportuism

I do not know what to do with these people:
Anya
ssbm_Kyouko

i felt like they might be doing a bit or something, but anya's vote on kyouko seems serious enough. if they're actually claiming different things are being said in the hood then i assume that's a difference check and one is scum but i'd like some form of clarification here. (had some slight concern anya's approach toward me could be pockety but only if i turn out to be tunneling town)

I am uncertain about these people:
osuka - didn't hate his start though i get why some people did, on gut it didn't feel bad but i need to see more from him
Derek12 - no idea
Dragon of the West - effectively a newbie, not enough in the way of game related content yet to judge. expressed suspicion of me feels misguided town on first guess though

These people are scummy:
Dunnstral - not gonna claim to be an expert at reading him but is probably just lurking scum here, his pop-ins have been super useless
Dwlee99
Nero Cain


never attempted to read everyone day 1 in a large before, wild

[petapan]

(fair note i had that list typed before save the dragons changed his vote)

[Titus]

I like osuka as town. His inconsistencies are unlikely to be scummy as scum would likely just pick one side or the other.

@T3, How is Rathe different?

my inconsistencies?

Just realized I forgot to answer this and now I can't remember what I was thinking.

[petapan]

was probably about how he was critical of both dgb's opener and nero's townread of dwlee

[osuka]

I like osuka as town. His inconsistencies are unlikely to be scummy as scum would likely just pick one side or the other.

@T3, How is Rathe different?

my inconsistencies?

Just realized I forgot to answer this and now I can't remember what I was thinking.

maybe you should work on your inconsistencies

[petapan]

i guess the hood is actually real? i assumed anya was doing a bit or something

anya might honestly be doing a bit

she's always doing a bit, it's just hard to know what about

i lied about catching up i tried reading everything and it's making my eyes glaze over i'm just going to roll with my gut

VOTE: petapan

inclined to sheep this but i do want to at least make an effort to catch up

you're not really talking to me like someone who finds me scummy?

[osuka]

someone tell me if i'm being a moron

does a peta/dgb scumteam sound plausible? i don't feel like i have a great grip on their interactions so far, especially since most have been effectively by proxy

[Titus]

was probably about how he was critical of both dgb's opener and nero's townread of dwlee

Don't ever do this. It's scummy as fuck. It stops me from reading Osaka's reaction to my genuineness. Plus it hands Osuka an argument that my answer was spoonfed that he can capitalize on as scum or he can't townread me for the same reason if he's town.

[osuka]

i guess the hood is actually real? i assumed anya was doing a bit or something

anya might honestly be doing a bit

she's always doing a bit, it's just hard to know what about

i lied about catching up i tried reading everything and it's making my eyes glaze over i'm just going to roll with my gut

VOTE: petapan

inclined to sheep this but i do want to at least make an effort to catch up

you're not really talking to me like someone who finds me scummy?

what the fuck is this even supposed to mean? is my tone supposed to match what you expect it to be for a given read you think i have on you?

get your head out of your ass

[osuka]

was probably about how he was critical of both dgb's opener and nero's townread of dwlee

Don't ever do this. It's scummy as fuck. It stops me from reading Osaka's reaction to my genuineness. Plus it hands Osuka an argument that my answer was spoonfed that he can capitalize on as scum or he can't townread me for the same reason if he's town.

how am i supposed to react to "i forgot"? that's a non-answer

[Nero Cain]

I haven't really been talking about the hood mostly b/c I'm confused about what's going on but I have a theory.

I don't think Peta's mod meta stuff is as earth-shattering as he thinks it is

[petapan]

was probably about how he was critical of both dgb's opener and nero's townread of dwlee

Don't ever do this. It's scummy as fuck. It stops me from reading Osaka's reaction to my genuineness. Plus it hands Osuka an argument that my answer was spoonfed that he can capitalize on as scum or he can't townread me for the same reason if he's town.

why is it scummy to try to guess at what you had forgotten?

[petapan]

i guess the hood is actually real? i assumed anya was doing a bit or something

anya might honestly be doing a bit

she's always doing a bit, it's just hard to know what about

i lied about catching up i tried reading everything and it's making my eyes glaze over i'm just going to roll with my gut

VOTE: petapan

inclined to sheep this but i do want to at least make an effort to catch up

you're not really talking to me like someone who finds me scummy?

what the fuck is this even supposed to mean? is my tone supposed to match what you expect it to be for a given read you think i have on you?

get your head out of your ass

what's got you so grumpy?

[Titus]

was probably about how he was critical of both dgb's opener and nero's townread of dwlee

Don't ever do this. It's scummy as fuck. It stops me from reading Osaka's reaction to my genuineness. Plus it hands Osuka an argument that my answer was spoonfed that he can capitalize on as scum or he can't townread me for the same reason if he's town.

why is it scummy to try to guess at what you had forgotten?

It's not. It's the timing of the reply and answering on my behalf. Let osuka follow up first, then chime in.

[Titus]

was probably about how he was critical of both dgb's opener and nero's townread of dwlee

Don't ever do this. It's scummy as fuck. It stops me from reading Osaka's reaction to my genuineness. Plus it hands Osuka an argument that my answer was spoonfed that he can capitalize on as scum or he can't townread me for the same reason if he's town.

how am i supposed to react to "i forgot"? that's a non-answer

Try to see if you feel my forgetfulness is genuine or not

[osuka]

i guess the hood is actually real? i assumed anya was doing a bit or something

anya might honestly be doing a bit

she's always doing a bit, it's just hard to know what about

i lied about catching up i tried reading everything and it's making my eyes glaze over i'm just going to roll with my gut

VOTE: petapan

inclined to sheep this but i do want to at least make an effort to catch up

you're not really talking to me like someone who finds me scummy?

what the fuck is this even supposed to mean? is my tone supposed to match what you expect it to be for a given read you think i have on you?

get your head out of your ass

what's got you so grumpy?

512 is a stupid post and it leads nowhere

why are you dodging the question?

[osuka]

was probably about how he was critical of both dgb's opener and nero's townread of dwlee

Don't ever do this. It's scummy as fuck. It stops me from reading Osaka's reaction to my genuineness. Plus it hands Osuka an argument that my answer was spoonfed that he can capitalize on as scum or he can't townread me for the same reason if he's town.

how am i supposed to react to "i forgot"? that's a non-answer

Try to see if you feel my forgetfulness is genuine or not

i felt like it

your move

[Titus]

I haven't really been talking about the hood mostly b/c I'm confused about what's going on but I have a theory.

I don't think Peta's mod meta stuff is as earth-shattering as he thinks it is

So first you're using wagon analysis to analyze suspects and now we're agreeing the mod meta stuff is shit...

Bizarro world