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[Bingle]

Mena, if I'm scum with N_M, why do I draw attention to the implications of Y going V/LA past the deadline? I could maybe see an argument there if I was partnered with Mo, looking for the towncred tomorrow. Why do I undermine my position in the 1v1 by not explicitly town reading you and Y and just throwing N_M under the bus when it probably just wins me the game with a Mo lim tomorrow?

Thinking me and N_M are paired is incredibly surface level, and you know my scum play is anything but.

[Bingle]

Whats mo’s narrative and why is it wrong?

For example, that whole part where he was saying that he only voted me because I voted him when the truth was the literal opposite. Or the accusation that I sheeped him on D2/3 when we were diametrically opposed on D3 and my "sheep" on D2 was:

Why for the love of Christ did you hammer Johnny there bingle

Combination of gamestate scumread on Pine and trust in N_M/Pooky. Also I was bored.

Also, I never pushed drapion D1 despite this being the bottom two names of my first readslist:

ProfessorDrapion
Gypyx

As to why people are scumreading Prof:

His entrance sounded forced, and his immediate justification for it makes me think he's too worried about how he's coming across. 19 is a bit performative and I don't particularly like the way he danced around my wagon. This was less of a big deal when I thought he was a true newbie, but being an alt makes it less likely to simply be jitters.

His fluff/content ratio is actually pretty good, but the content he does have is very political. Sheeping me and asking for my other reads is a very safe move, even if I'm right on Gypyx. 103 shows an effort=town read for both me and Mena. VFP/T3/Gypyx feel mostly like fluff reads. It feels more like a readslist because he thought I expected him to have reads at that point in the game than a genuine reads list. I also would have expected a natural thought process to put the very similar reads of me and Mena adjacent to each other, rather than as bookends to the weaker, low content reads.

It's been mentioned that 113 is a pretty awful take. (A50 calling VFP's post a scumclaim is incredibly nonintuitive and I'd expect anyone without extensive A50 experience to look at that and go "What are you smoking old man?" not "Oh, yeah, 3 townreads in RVS is a scumclaim.") This suggests to me that Prof had absolutely no paranoia about A50's comment, which shows a distinct lack of town perspective in that he wasn't trying to figure out A50's alignment.

128 is a defense by way of pedantry (often scum). It's not "I'm not scummy and here's why" it's "You shouldn't think I'm scummy for that specific reason."

teal deer: He's playing a very political game, and I don't think his solving is genuine.

Which was tipped Luke over into voting Drap in the first place.

Why the fuck would I bus Drap from off wagon in order to receive none of the towncred?

[Bingle]

its up to you mena, i suggest you iso and look at bingle's recent scumgames and tell me the similarities. you will see a common theme (his scumtell), bonus points to u if u catch it

Also, in what fucking universe is this a townpost? Especially at deadline in XLO?

"Hey, I have a meta tell against the person I know is confscum and I'm going to hint at it and not actually tell you what it is but you can go find it and I'll give you a big old gold star!"

Fucking LOL.

[Ydrasse]

I think maybe I want ydra to vote for N_M and then I can choose who to hammer in the morning

VOTE: not_mafia

final thoughts when you hammer please

[Ydrasse]

@mena i'll trust w/e choice you make if i have to go to e3 and decide it because at this point i dont know who it is, i feel like bingle is putting up a hell of a fight if he is scum, i feel like voting mo is the "safe" choice imo but it also feels like it's a matter of choosing if we lose today or tomorrow because i'm scared that we won't get whoever the last scum is between bingle/nm so if you wanna bite the bullet today and go for it you have my blessing

[Bingle]

Conf not scum with Mo.

[Ydrasse]

BLESS YOU

[Ydrasse]

bingle if you're fucking with me i'll kill you

[Bingle]

Not hammering here would be literally gamethrowing and thus against site rules.

I don't break site rules.

I'm either scum with specifically N_M or town.

[Bingle]

I'm considering hammering anyway, though, because I won't be around to hammer at deadline.

[Bingle]

How sure are you on Mena town?

[Ydrasse]

i'm willing to bet the game on it, i came into this day being very ? at him but boxing himself in with the hammer testing would be suicidal, and him being like /happy/ to have someone he could trust instead of having to fret felt real and not like it was just to get me on his side

[Bingle]

My only hesitance is him not seeing mo scum.

I'm pretty sure Gypyx/Mo/Drap isn't S/S/S so I'm pretty sold on you.

Maybe it is just N_M/Mo? That explains Mo's breakdown today better than anything else.

Fuckit.

VOTE: N_M

At least I don't have to reevaluate anything if I wake up tomorrow.

[Ydrasse]

poggers

[Bingle]

Honestly that kinda sounds like I fucked up.

[Ydrasse]

[Bingle]

Well shit.

[Ydrasse]

i genuinely have no clue what was going on during the hammer testing.

[Bingle]

Once N_M had left his vote on Mo for a significant amount of time and Mo had left his vote on me for a significant amount of time it was confirmed that there was 1 scum in Mo/N_M and one scum in Mo/me.

Mo confirmed himself as scum to me.

I don't think I could have gotten Mena to reevaluate on you, so you probably just won the moment you repped in tho, tbh.

Mena has major paranoia wrt me.

[Ydrasse]

i honestly think he would have voted me before that stuff because he was entirely correct. i took the advice he gave me for playing scum while we hydra'd and then i tried to go "ohhh nooo i wouldn't do that" when he knows that's like... exactly what i'm trying to do now. if the hammer thing hadn't happened this was a loss i think?

(@mena i am so sorry you had me dead to rights like, as soon as this dayphase started)

[Bingle]

Mena actually had very little to do with it, FWIW, other than pointing it out.

[Ydrasse]

voting patterns are wild

i actually don't know if there was a chance in there to hammer someone that i missed, i should check

[Ydrasse]

shout out to mo for trying his hardest with the posting

[Bingle]

Town:

Dannflor
T3
PookyTheMagicalBear
Almost50

Needs more content before being arbitrarily shuffled into a pile:

GrandpaMo
ManWithNoName
Pine

Scum:

Lukewarm
VFP
Menalque
ProfessorDrapion
Gypyx

Yes. All nine of those are genuine reads with genuine reasoning. I'm not going to bother explaining most of them at the moment, and they're loosely ordered based on how accurate my gut says they might be.

[Bingle]

i actually don't know if there was a chance in there to hammer someone that i missed, i should check

There wasn't. Mena fucked that up actually, and I didn't catch it until I knew pointing it out would be suicide.