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Post Post #1275 (ISO) » Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:00 pm

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In post 1274, Moongrass wrote:Gamma and House would you mind discussing your hesitation around the wagon on the hydra when it first started up? Like was there a post from the start that gave you the impression the push from me and JJH was bad?
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Post Post #1276 (ISO) » Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:00 pm

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In post 1273, Titus wrote:
In post 1271, Moongrass wrote:Titus could you talk more about your townread on Gamma?
It's a tonal townread mostly. He doesn't seem to back down when pushed or FoSed. He's clear and understandable too.
I'm seeing what you're seeing but not sure how being calm and clear comes exclusively from town Gamma.
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Post Post #1277 (ISO) » Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:01 pm

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In post 1275, House wrote:
In post 1274, Moongrass wrote:Gamma and House would you mind discussing your hesitation around the wagon on the hydra when it first started up? Like was there a post from the start that gave you the impression the push from me and JJH was bad?
Nah. Discussing my hesitancy would not serve a town wincon.
Okay, what do you mean by that?
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Post Post #1278 (ISO) » Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:04 pm

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If I'm not going to talk about it for the reason I stated, it stands to reason I'm not going to continue a discussion about it.
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Post Post #1279 (ISO) » Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:08 pm

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Do you think Gamma is town house?
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Post Post #1280 (ISO) » Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:11 pm

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In post 1279, Moongrass wrote:Do you think Gamma is town house?
Gamma is someone I've always had a difficult time with on trying to read.

I'm feeling vaguely buddied by him in this game.

Would I object to his wagon? No. Do I have a case against him? Also no.
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Post Post #1281 (ISO) » Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:13 pm

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In post 1141, House wrote:
In post 1139, Moongrass wrote:
In post 1136, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1087, Moongrass wrote:The point was to apply some pressure, but that's ok. I think I'm getting caught in my own web and will regroup.

VOTE: Nomnom
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Well I'll tell you a secret.

I'm not scum, but I've been carefully setting up webs that I myself have destroyed and now I'm so tangled in my reads I'm not even sure I'm town anymore.
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In post 1142, Gamma Emerald wrote:Yeah it feels like the converse of LAMIST, essentially “hey look I’m definitely NOT scum”
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In post 1142, Gamma Emerald wrote:Yeah it feels like the converse of LAMIST, essentially “hey look I’m definitely NOT scum”
I'm torn.

Don't take this personally... I think you're a cool dude, and this is happening because it's MY wiring that's screwy... but every time you agree with me in this game, it makes me question my conclusion and want to vote you.

It's rather annoying.
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Post Post #1282 (ISO) » Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:15 pm

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I think he's town actually. I'm going to find it hard to sort nom, NK read doesn't change.
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Post Post #1283 (ISO) » Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:18 pm

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In post 1282, Moongrass wrote:I think he's town actually. I'm going to find it hard to sort nom, NK read doesn't change.
That's quite possible.

I've been criticized in the past for turning on allies because of my paranoia.

That's one (of many) flaws that I'm trying to work on.
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Post Post #1284 (ISO) » Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:25 pm

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In post 1282, Moongrass wrote:I think he's town actually. I'm going to find it hard to sort nom, NK read doesn't change.
Not really interested in a nom wagon at this point, personally.
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Post Post #1285 (ISO) » Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:27 pm

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Post Post #1286 (ISO) » Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:28 pm

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NK, I'd be cool with seeing wagoned.

Look at their flip on cyrus with zero progression.
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Post Post #1287 (ISO) » Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:29 pm

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FMFT I think I need to meta dive which I hate doing but dude is giving me nothing to work with.
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Post Post #1288 (ISO) » Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:35 pm

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Spoiler: posts mentioning cyrus
In post 959, Not Known 15 wrote:
In post 954, House wrote:FMFT & cyrus are the two I'm comfortable voting at this point.
FMFT, okay, but why Cyrus?

FMFT seems to be a very evasive in giving actual reasons for their scumreads.

I ISO'ed Cyrus and didn't find anything suspicious.
In post 1191, Not Known 15 wrote:
In post 1182, nomnomnom wrote:
In post 1180, Moongrass wrote:It means not interacting with them directly which I haven't for some time. Like I know it's next level play to you to actually take into account other people's reads, but it's actually easier to play as a team instead of some delusional scum hunting god flying solo. A lot of what I do won't ever be acknowledged and I've made peace with that long ago.
1. That is a lie, you've made the "giving space" post very early on in your iso but still interacted and wrote a case about the hydra being scum in the meantime
2. The "I know it's next level play to you to actually take into account other people's reads" is highly not necessary and comes off as discrediting a very valid point
3. So your whole argument is that you want to play as a team so I assume this means that you are basically saying you are more or less trying to follow the stumps in their assessments. While that is a fair assessment, I don't buy that, as town:
>You basically give up your nancy push because of that
>You change your gamma read from town to scum because of that (because I assume this is what it is, considering you confidently say you townread gamma early on, then for no reason include him in your hypothetical scumteam, and the only explanation I see that could justify that is norwee saying he thinks the slot is scummy)
That last self-defeating line also doesn't strike me as town at all and feels more like trying to sell to me a town mindset that doesn't exist.
I feel pretty confident that you're scum here. None of this makes sense.
This is a pretty accurate statement.
In post 1188, Moongrass wrote:Yeah, no thanks. So did Nancy put you up to this?
This post gives me a very bad feeling.
In post 1168, jjh927 wrote:I have had significant pushes on the play of House (although this was primarily to get us out of RVS), Mia (specifically the koba head), and you. You have gone to lengths to ignore or dismiss these because they don't fit your narrative. I'm pretty sure these are the main areas of content that everybody else in the game is using to place me- so I'm fairly sure the only reason you aren't finding content there is because you don't want to.
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Scumteam is Moongrass + Cyrus + Mia/FMFT
VOTE: Moongrass
In post 1200, Not Known 15 wrote:
In post 1198, nomnomnom wrote:
In post 1191, Not Known 15 wrote:
In post 1182, nomnomnom wrote:
In post 1180, Moongrass wrote:It means not interacting with them directly which I haven't for some time. Like I know it's next level play to you to actually take into account other people's reads, but it's actually easier to play as a team instead of some delusional scum hunting god flying solo. A lot of what I do won't ever be acknowledged and I've made peace with that long ago.
1. That is a lie, you've made the "giving space" post very early on in your iso but still interacted and wrote a case about the hydra being scum in the meantime
2. The "I know it's next level play to you to actually take into account other people's reads" is highly not necessary and comes off as discrediting a very valid point
3. So your whole argument is that you want to play as a team so I assume this means that you are basically saying you are more or less trying to follow the stumps in their assessments. While that is a fair assessment, I don't buy that, as town:
>You basically give up your nancy push because of that
>You change your gamma read from town to scum because of that (because I assume this is what it is, considering you confidently say you townread gamma early on, then for no reason include him in your hypothetical scumteam, and the only explanation I see that could justify that is norwee saying he thinks the slot is scummy)
That last self-defeating line also doesn't strike me as town at all and feels more like trying to sell to me a town mindset that doesn't exist.
I feel pretty confident that you're scum here. None of this makes sense.
This is a pretty accurate statement.
In post 1188, Moongrass wrote:Yeah, no thanks. So did Nancy put you up to this?
This post gives me a very bad feeling.
In post 1168, jjh927 wrote:I have had significant pushes on the play of House (although this was primarily to get us out of RVS), Mia (specifically the koba head), and you. You have gone to lengths to ignore or dismiss these because they don't fit your narrative. I'm pretty sure these are the main areas of content that everybody else in the game is using to place me- so I'm fairly sure the only reason you aren't finding content there is because you don't want to.
Yep.
Scumteam is Moongrass + Cyrus + Mia/FMFT
VOTE: Moongrass
You're saying that Moongrass and the hydra are scum together? So you believe that their heavy talk in thread is scum theater?
I re-checked, this is actually unlikely.
It is Moon+Cyrus+FMFT, then.
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Post Post #1289 (ISO) » Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:56 pm

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I was waiting to see what NK would post in response to my question before doing this but I'm growing impatient
Wow you're so good at avoiding death and killing slots that are not part of the informed minority. Wow how are you so good at playing this game.
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Post Post #1290 (ISO) » Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:57 pm

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VOTE: NK15
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Post Post #1291 (ISO) » Wed Jun 09, 2021 3:01 pm

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In post 1268, Titus wrote:Something's blocking my ability to read and make connections this game. It might be my work but I am wholly dissatisfied with my ability to generate reads here. I feel cyrus and gamma are town but everyone else is meh.

Can someone ask me a question about their theory in a concise post?
This checks all boxes as genuine town.
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Post Post #1292 (ISO) » Wed Jun 09, 2021 3:02 pm

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Banana peel!

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Post Post #1293 (ISO) » Wed Jun 09, 2021 3:30 pm

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NK is in danger of being hammered, just FYI.
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Post Post #1294 (ISO) » Wed Jun 09, 2021 3:32 pm

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I think it's E-2
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Post Post #1295 (ISO) » Wed Jun 09, 2021 3:54 pm

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In post 1294, jjh927 wrote:I think it's E-2
I think you're right. That was what I saw, but too lazy to confirm it so I figured I'd mention hammer was close to discourage a lolhammer.
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Post Post #1296 (ISO) » Wed Jun 09, 2021 4:12 pm

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In post 1288, House wrote:
Spoiler: posts mentioning cyrus
In post 959, Not Known 15 wrote:
In post 954, House wrote:FMFT & cyrus are the two I'm comfortable voting at this point.
FMFT, okay, but why Cyrus?

FMFT seems to be a very evasive in giving actual reasons for their scumreads.

I ISO'ed Cyrus and didn't find anything suspicious.
In post 1191, Not Known 15 wrote:
In post 1182, nomnomnom wrote:
In post 1180, Moongrass wrote:It means not interacting with them directly which I haven't for some time. Like I know it's next level play to you to actually take into account other people's reads, but it's actually easier to play as a team instead of some delusional scum hunting god flying solo. A lot of what I do won't ever be acknowledged and I've made peace with that long ago.
1. That is a lie, you've made the "giving space" post very early on in your iso but still interacted and wrote a case about the hydra being scum in the meantime
2. The "I know it's next level play to you to actually take into account other people's reads" is highly not necessary and comes off as discrediting a very valid point
3. So your whole argument is that you want to play as a team so I assume this means that you are basically saying you are more or less trying to follow the stumps in their assessments. While that is a fair assessment, I don't buy that, as town:
>You basically give up your nancy push because of that
>You change your gamma read from town to scum because of that (because I assume this is what it is, considering you confidently say you townread gamma early on, then for no reason include him in your hypothetical scumteam, and the only explanation I see that could justify that is norwee saying he thinks the slot is scummy)
That last self-defeating line also doesn't strike me as town at all and feels more like trying to sell to me a town mindset that doesn't exist.
I feel pretty confident that you're scum here. None of this makes sense.
This is a pretty accurate statement.
In post 1188, Moongrass wrote:Yeah, no thanks. So did Nancy put you up to this?
This post gives me a very bad feeling.
In post 1168, jjh927 wrote:I have had significant pushes on the play of House (although this was primarily to get us out of RVS), Mia (specifically the koba head), and you. You have gone to lengths to ignore or dismiss these because they don't fit your narrative. I'm pretty sure these are the main areas of content that everybody else in the game is using to place me- so I'm fairly sure the only reason you aren't finding content there is because you don't want to.
Yep.
Scumteam is Moongrass + Cyrus + Mia/FMFT
VOTE: Moongrass
In post 1200, Not Known 15 wrote:
In post 1198, nomnomnom wrote:
In post 1191, Not Known 15 wrote:
In post 1182, nomnomnom wrote:
In post 1180, Moongrass wrote:It means not interacting with them directly which I haven't for some time. Like I know it's next level play to you to actually take into account other people's reads, but it's actually easier to play as a team instead of some delusional scum hunting god flying solo. A lot of what I do won't ever be acknowledged and I've made peace with that long ago.
1. That is a lie, you've made the "giving space" post very early on in your iso but still interacted and wrote a case about the hydra being scum in the meantime
2. The "I know it's next level play to you to actually take into account other people's reads" is highly not necessary and comes off as discrediting a very valid point
3. So your whole argument is that you want to play as a team so I assume this means that you are basically saying you are more or less trying to follow the stumps in their assessments. While that is a fair assessment, I don't buy that, as town:
>You basically give up your nancy push because of that
>You change your gamma read from town to scum because of that (because I assume this is what it is, considering you confidently say you townread gamma early on, then for no reason include him in your hypothetical scumteam, and the only explanation I see that could justify that is norwee saying he thinks the slot is scummy)
That last self-defeating line also doesn't strike me as town at all and feels more like trying to sell to me a town mindset that doesn't exist.
I feel pretty confident that you're scum here. None of this makes sense.
This is a pretty accurate statement.
In post 1188, Moongrass wrote:Yeah, no thanks. So did Nancy put you up to this?
This post gives me a very bad feeling.
In post 1168, jjh927 wrote:I have had significant pushes on the play of House (although this was primarily to get us out of RVS), Mia (specifically the koba head), and you. You have gone to lengths to ignore or dismiss these because they don't fit your narrative. I'm pretty sure these are the main areas of content that everybody else in the game is using to place me- so I'm fairly sure the only reason you aren't finding content there is because you don't want to.
Yep.
Scumteam is Moongrass + Cyrus + Mia/FMFT
VOTE: Moongrass
You're saying that Moongrass and the hydra are scum together? So you believe that their heavy talk in thread is scum theater?
I re-checked, this is actually unlikely.
It is Moon+Cyrus+FMFT, then.
Yeah, that came out of nowhere.
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Post Post #1297 (ISO) » Wed Jun 09, 2021 4:19 pm

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Would prefer if we waited a bit before hammer.
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