In post 425, Pavowski wrote:I see we're still on Cyrus's messiness for some reason. Folks, there are better things to focus your mental energies on. He wants the thread full of smoke for some reason, and whether you think he's town or think he's scum, you're letting him run the game by engaging with the smoke. I will again recommend that we move on for now.
I've been driving all day, but I'll dive into some more reads this evening now that I'm back at home. (And back on a computer I can actually post properly from.)
Also @Luke, the bit about Zyla being town this time after mafia in last game was a joke, of course. RNG can never be trusted, unless you're trusting it to be untrustworthy. I keep forgetting sarcasm has been outlawed in this game
My final thoughts on Cyrus for the day.In post 399, Azeru wrote:Well, let's not forget that just because he says he's town doesn't mean it's true.
Though for other reasons, I am having a hard time finding scum motivation in his play. It's anti town, but at the same time the reasons I can think of for which he'd make this play as scum are extremely risky, and even if it played out in his best case scenario, are still mostly detrimental to the scum team.
I think that this post is the best thing to come out of the cyrus nonsense. Do not know the last time I was rick rolled. Made me chuckle.In post 408, Save The Dragons wrote:not everyone veers every read. go on, not now all. get in very easily yesterday on under under pain. not everyone veers every read! go on, not now all. lose everything to yesterday on under. don't over worry now.
you guys are the ones who seen the crumb and still pushed. this was my 1st time as pr . so i didnt know how to play that card.In post 428, Lukewarm wrote:My final thoughts on Cyrus for the day.In post 399, Azeru wrote:Well, let's not forget that just because he says he's town doesn't mean it's true.
Though for other reasons, I am having a hard time finding scum motivation in his play. It's anti town, but at the same time the reasons I can think of for which he'd make this play as scum are extremely risky, and even if it played out in his best case scenario, are still mostly detrimental to the scum team.
The short version: Overall, I think I am comfortable dropping all discussion on Cyrus for the rest of the day. If there is someone out there who can counter claim him, please DO NOT COUNTER CLAIM over this nonsense. He should not be voted today, and the slot should basically resolve itself given some time.
Spoiler: The long version
I plan on playing the remainder of Day 1 pretending Cyrus is not in the lobby, because apparently interacting with him does not thing but increase the confusion.
StrangeMatter wrote:@Pavowski can you explain what you thought about post 330, with that distancing act?
Sure.StrangeMatter wrote:Correction, what was your thought process that came about when you made post 330?
Let me clear this up really quick.In post 436, Pavowski wrote:StrangeMatter wrote:@Pavowski can you explain what you thought about post 330, with that distancing act?Sure.StrangeMatter wrote:Correction, what was your thought process that came about when you made post 330?
You RVS'd Hockey right out of the gate. Okay, random voting is a thing, cool.
In #49 you say you're actually wondering about them.
You accidentally answer a question directed at Hockeyfan (80). (I believe this was innocent.)
In #86 you ask Hockeyfan why Luke would defend you. (This is odd.)
You have a few posts about partners, then reiterate your question from #86 in #109.
In #138 you ask why Haschel is going in on Hockeyfan.
In #198 you ask Hockeyfan his opinion of the game.
Throughout all that you interact with the thread in general but seem to be *really* focused on Hockeyfan. You get a little bit bogged down with the Cyrus stuff (who hasn't), then you turn your attention on me, apparently because I pointed out your interest in Hockeyfan.
You sus him, then you defend him, then you buddy up to him. It smells fishy.
I'm on you at present because you're the fishiest thing I see in the thread so far, outside of the red herring I am trying very hard not to waste any more brain power on right now.
This goes back a little bit but I'm doing ISOs and this statement just seems so weird to me. I'm still pretty new but .... you expect town to have confidence in their reads at this point?In post 310, HockeyFan wrote:Pav- has moved from weak town to null/weak scum for me as of now. They do indeed have reads but they're confident not in them at all and from my expericnes, usually town is more confident in their reads.
I really need them to talk more to formulate anything on them. Null. Kind of wished they pressure people from their scum reads though.In post 437, HockeyFan wrote:@Pav, can you expain rq again why u have a slight town read on STD.
Also Strange, you dont seem to have attempted STD yet? So what are your thoughts on them?
Sure.In post 437, HockeyFan wrote:@Pav, can you expain rq again why u have a slight town read on STD.
Also Strange, you dont seem to have attempted STD yet? So what are your thoughts on them?
I mean, I was giving out a few brief reads since a few people wanted to see them. I wasn't making a big deal of it (there's something to be said for not sharing EVERYTHING you're thinking), but you did ask.In post 439, StrangeMatter wrote:Let me clear this up really quick.In post 436, Pavowski wrote:StrangeMatter wrote:@Pavowski can you explain what you thought about post 330, with that distancing act?Sure.StrangeMatter wrote:Correction, what was your thought process that came about when you made post 330?
You RVS'd Hockey right out of the gate. Okay, random voting is a thing, cool.
In #49 you say you're actually wondering about them.
You accidentally answer a question directed at Hockeyfan (80). (I believe this was innocent.)
In #86 you ask Hockeyfan why Luke would defend you. (This is odd.)
You have a few posts about partners, then reiterate your question from #86 in #109.
In #138 you ask why Haschel is going in on Hockeyfan.
In #198 you ask Hockeyfan his opinion of the game.
Throughout all that you interact with the thread in general but seem to be *really* focused on Hockeyfan. You get a little bit bogged down with the Cyrus stuff (who hasn't), then you turn your attention on me, apparently because I pointed out your interest in Hockeyfan.
You sus him, then you defend him, then you buddy up to him. It smells fishy.
I'm on you at present because you're the fishiest thing I see in the thread so far, outside of the red herring I am trying very hard not to waste any more brain power on right now.
To explain post #86, his logic felt a bit weird, based off saying Luke defending me, which to me seemed like a joke post. As for post #138, it was a question that I felt could in turn gauge their intent and see if it was reasonable or not.
As for the changes in reads, that, is mostly up to reading players for me. Given enough time, I change reads based off what the person does that I see as Townie or Scummy. I can’t change if you think I am buddying, but I am not.
I’m wondering why you didn’t say this earlier right now, considering the original post said very weird.
To say I care about small things a lot is an understatement. However, I will point out as a self meta that I won’t buddy as scum, especially considering I don’t and definitely wouldn’t have the skill to pull off a buddying as a play.In post 443, Pavowski wrote:I mean, I was giving out a few brief reads since a few people wanted to see them. I wasn't making a big deal of it (there's something to be said for not sharing EVERYTHING you're thinking), but you did ask.In post 439, StrangeMatter wrote:Let me clear this up really quick.In post 436, Pavowski wrote:StrangeMatter wrote:@Pavowski can you explain what you thought about post 330, with that distancing act?Sure.StrangeMatter wrote:Correction, what was your thought process that came about when you made post 330?
You RVS'd Hockey right out of the gate. Okay, random voting is a thing, cool.
In #49 you say you're actually wondering about them.
You accidentally answer a question directed at Hockeyfan (80). (I believe this was innocent.)
In #86 you ask Hockeyfan why Luke would defend you. (This is odd.)
You have a few posts about partners, then reiterate your question from #86 in #109.
In #138 you ask why Haschel is going in on Hockeyfan.
In #198 you ask Hockeyfan his opinion of the game.
Throughout all that you interact with the thread in general but seem to be *really* focused on Hockeyfan. You get a little bit bogged down with the Cyrus stuff (who hasn't), then you turn your attention on me, apparently because I pointed out your interest in Hockeyfan.
You sus him, then you defend him, then you buddy up to him. It smells fishy.
I'm on you at present because you're the fishiest thing I see in the thread so far, outside of the red herring I am trying very hard not to waste any more brain power on right now.
To explain post #86, his logic felt a bit weird, based off saying Luke defending me, which to me seemed like a joke post. As for post #138, it was a question that I felt could in turn gauge their intent and see if it was reasonable or not.
As for the changes in reads, that, is mostly up to reading players for me. Given enough time, I change reads based off what the person does that I see as Townie or Scummy. I can’t change if you think I am buddying, but I am not.
I’m wondering why you didn’t say this earlier right now, considering the original post said very weird.
And this is me making a note that you're particularly concerned in how we all see this relationship.
Of course reads change! Mine are changing all the time. It's the how, and the when, and the why, that are interesting.