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Post Post #1975 (ISO) » Tue Jun 15, 2021 5:05 am

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VOTE: titus

that's a fucking scumclaim if i've seen one and fuck this game if we can't make this happen
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Post Post #1976 (ISO) » Tue Jun 15, 2021 5:06 am

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In post 1974, Titus wrote:
In post 1972, Dwlee99 wrote:Titus I think you're extremely wrong on your read of that claim.
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Do you think she is scum announcing voyeur??
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Post Post #1977 (ISO) » Tue Jun 15, 2021 5:07 am

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In post 1976, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 1974, Titus wrote:
In post 1972, Dwlee99 wrote:Titus I think you're extremely wrong on your read of that claim.
Why?
Do you think she is scum announcing voyeur??
No. I think the whole thing is a fabrication.
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Post Post #1978 (ISO) » Tue Jun 15, 2021 5:07 am

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That's ridiculous.
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Post Post #1979 (ISO) » Tue Jun 15, 2021 5:07 am

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In post 1969, Titus wrote:
In post 1966, petapan wrote:also i think dwlee-scum has maybe the least motive to kill nero out of anyone in this game tbh

anyone else i can see reasons for, but him? mehh
Why do you keep supposing Nero was a scumkill?
unless you're claiming vig (lmao) i'm not seeing anyone else that makes that kill while sided with the town

reasonable assumption is it was from scum
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Post Post #1980 (ISO) » Tue Jun 15, 2021 5:07 am

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In post 1978, Dwlee99 wrote:That's ridiculous.
shes scum dude
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Post Post #1981 (ISO) » Tue Jun 15, 2021 5:17 am

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what scum fabricates ANNOUNCING VOYEUR, a role that is both completely shitty and verifiable such that they are likely to get called out on it if they are unable to prove it

if there was a planned claim it would not be that

(and keep in mind i think the role itself is basically NAI, but trying to use this as an argument for voting anya is terribad)
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Post Post #1982 (ISO) » Tue Jun 15, 2021 5:26 am

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I don't want to derail the T3 wagon and I totally agree that Titus' take is ridiculous but I don't know if I agree that it is alignment indicative for Titus.
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Post Post #1983 (ISO) » Tue Jun 15, 2021 5:27 am

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In post 1966, petapan wrote:also i think dwlee-scum has maybe the least motive to kill nero out of anyone in this game tbh

anyone else i can see reasons for, but him? mehh
I think kills to frame players are a thing. I would never just assume this early that an NK was done for a specific purpose. You just don’t know.
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Post Post #1984 (ISO) » Tue Jun 15, 2021 5:28 am

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In post 1980, petapan wrote:
In post 1978, Dwlee99 wrote:That's ridiculous.
shes scum dude
You were expressing this much certainty about Nero Cain and was wrong. You’re starting to make me think I am siding completely wrong here.
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Post Post #1985 (ISO) » Tue Jun 15, 2021 5:34 am

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In post 1970, Dwlee99 wrote:If T3 is town he can try to push me on "well my arbitrary decision that there is one scum in these 2 players says Dwlee is scum now."
It’s not an arbitrary decision. It might look like that to you, but I usually express that of two slots that seem Scummy on the surface and are fighting each other, sometimes hard.
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Post Post #1986 (ISO) » Tue Jun 15, 2021 5:37 am

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In post 1985, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 1970, Dwlee99 wrote:If T3 is town he can try to push me on "well my arbitrary decision that there is one scum in these 2 players says Dwlee is scum now."
It’s not an arbitrary decision. It might look like that to you, but I usually express that of two slots that seem Scummy on the surface and are fighting each other, sometimes hard.
Have T3 and I fought?
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Post Post #1987 (ISO) » Tue Jun 15, 2021 5:51 am

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In post 1975, petapan wrote:VOTE: titus

that's a fucking scumclaim if i've seen one and fuck this game if we can't make this happen
What was a scum claim?

But I'm for a Titus lim here.
I think Titus has a lot more chance to flip scum than T3 at the very least.

VOTE: Titus

There seems to be enough thought as Titus scum here to at least warrant this as a wagon. If there's heavy resistance to even that stage, we can work out why.
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Post Post #1988 (ISO) » Tue Jun 15, 2021 6:01 am

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In post 1986, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 1985, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 1970, Dwlee99 wrote:If T3 is town he can try to push me on "well my arbitrary decision that there is one scum in these 2 players says Dwlee is scum now."
It’s not an arbitrary decision. It might look like that to you, but I usually express that of two slots that seem Scummy on the surface and are fighting each other, sometimes hard.
Have T3 and I fought?
Fighting is perhaps the wrong word. Strongly accused each other of being Scum. How about that?
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Post Post #1989 (ISO) » Tue Jun 15, 2021 6:06 am

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I’m inclined to believe Titus’ skepticism of the claim is Towny, not Scummy. I don’t think there’s much of an incentive to question that claim from a Scum perspective.
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Post Post #1990 (ISO) » Tue Jun 15, 2021 6:30 am

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In post 1989, Andresvmb wrote:I’m inclined to believe Titus’ skepticism of the claim is Towny, not Scummy. I don’t think there’s much of an incentive to question that claim from a Scum perspective.
i think there's absolutely incentive for scum to try to force an elimination on a claimed town PR by expressing skepticism that the claim is too strange or too powerful or what have you, and i predicted that sort of thing would happen on day 1. scum win games by eliminating town and if your juicy lurker lim suddenly claims a PR and people start unvoting and having doubts, it's not good to let the opportunity slip through your fingers, you have to start going "i dunno guys, that claim sounds too crazy, would that REALLY be a role? it sounds so fake!"
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Post Post #1991 (ISO) » Tue Jun 15, 2021 6:57 am

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In post 1988, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 1986, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 1985, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 1970, Dwlee99 wrote:If T3 is town he can try to push me on "well my arbitrary decision that there is one scum in these 2 players says Dwlee is scum now."
It’s not an arbitrary decision. It might look like that to you, but I usually express that of two slots that seem Scummy on the surface and are fighting each other, sometimes hard.
Have T3 and I fought?
Fighting is perhaps the wrong word. Strongly accused each other of being Scum. How about that?
I don't think T3 ever called me scum
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Post Post #1992 (ISO) » Tue Jun 15, 2021 7:03 am

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Plausible Andre saw the post from T3 to me that has the words of you being scum... Of course, context of that post isn't T3 saying you're scum.
Scum Andre maybe just quickly searching for a T3 read and not actually reading?
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Post Post #1993 (ISO) » Tue Jun 15, 2021 7:04 am

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In post 215, T3 wrote:
In post 214, VFP wrote:
In post 213, T3 wrote:DGB: theory
Dwelee: no
peta: anyone who denies the theory is scum x10000
people: vote
I don't read it that Dwlee is scum for denying DGB's theory.
Can you point to where I'm wrong?
Dweleeis somehow scum for trying to wriggle out of a lim by fake claiming pr.
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Post Post #1994 (ISO) » Tue Jun 15, 2021 7:04 am

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Okay but, Titus also has a Claim. This isn’t the least bit consistent.
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Post Post #1995 (ISO) » Tue Jun 15, 2021 7:10 am

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You’re right though. I thought T3 had responded to DW for some reason, but they never did. I was talking about these posts from DW’s perspective:
In post 1827, Dwlee99 wrote:VOTE: T3
Okay I'll buy it
In post 1829, Dwlee99 wrote:I think anya, Kyo, and peta are town and so I don't think I see a single vote on scum in T3's ISO
In post 1830, Dwlee99 wrote:He did flip between rathe -> nom -> chaos within the span of 4 posts at one point so maybe he hit scum in there? I want to see more from him and he kinda came into the end of day one without acknowledging Nero was going to hammer once he voted.
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Post Post #1996 (ISO) » Tue Jun 15, 2021 7:10 am

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I believe Anya's claim more than Titus's claim.
I cant remember if this game or not, but I think it was. There was mention about neibours having powers day 1.
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Post Post #1997 (ISO) » Tue Jun 15, 2021 7:12 am

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I don’t know why I imagined some sort of argument between them. I think I was thinking about it in this way because of how opposite some of the reads seems to be between Titus/DotW/DGB/T3 versus say Anya/peta/VFP/DW.
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Post Post #1998 (ISO) » Tue Jun 15, 2021 7:12 am

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In post 1996, VFP wrote:I believe Anya's claim more than Titus's claim.
I cant remember if this game or not, but I think it was. There was mention about neibours having powers day 1.
I mentioned rolecop neighbors in a game I played once.

Andre, given that there was no "fight" between T3 and I, do you still think at least one of us is evil?
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Post Post #1999 (ISO) » Tue Jun 15, 2021 7:13 am

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Now of course that DW spotted an “Inno” from DotW on DGB, their approach has completely changed. That I think is fascinating.
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