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Post Post #875 (ISO) » Wed Jun 16, 2021 5:19 pm

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In post 874, Zyla wrote:
In post 871, cyrus62 wrote:Just throwing this out there to help town. StrangeMatter is at e2 and std is at e3 if this remains even if there's no hammer StrangeMatter still dies
If I'm not mistaken, all newbie games require a hammer, time running out is a no-elim
Yes, a hammer is required, and Cyrus is surely aware of from their earlier games (they are an SE), and from the fact that they actively said that they were not going to hammer, so town would no elim Day 1

I thought cyrus had stopped purposefully making bad posts around the time I decided to start interacting with them more, but I think they are sliding back into purposefully bad posts :/
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Post Post #876 (ISO) » Wed Jun 16, 2021 5:45 pm

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To be explicit:

Newbie games, and in fact NEARLY ALL MS games do not use plurality elimination mechanics.

If no one gets a majority of votes then there is no elimination.

Majority: N/2 + 1

Where N=the number of living players.
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Post Post #877 (ISO) » Wed Jun 16, 2021 6:06 pm

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No who ever has the most votes is majority. As of now the majority is StrangeMatter
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Post Post #878 (ISO) » Wed Jun 16, 2021 6:11 pm

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there are 3 on stange two on std so StrangeMatter has the majority would be StrangeMatter
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Post Post #879 (ISO) » Wed Jun 16, 2021 6:14 pm

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In post 877, cyrus62 wrote:No who ever has the most votes is majority. As of now the majority is StrangeMatter
Do you know the difference between a majority and a plurality?

That’s a rhetorical question.
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Post Post #880 (ISO) » Wed Jun 16, 2021 6:20 pm

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So you need a hammer. Wow back in 2019 who ever had the most died
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Post Post #881 (ISO) » Wed Jun 16, 2021 6:27 pm

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any way I dislike a StrangeMatter elim
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Post Post #882 (ISO) » Wed Jun 16, 2021 6:29 pm

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In post 881, cyrus62 wrote:any way I dislike a StrangeMatter elim
Then who do you want to elim?

Hockey? Me? Vote for one of us instead of leaving your vote in limbo.

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Post Post #883 (ISO) » Wed Jun 16, 2021 6:37 pm

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there are two players them and it being thire 1st game if they are town they deserve to win. VOTE: No elimination
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Post Post #884 (ISO) » Wed Jun 16, 2021 6:37 pm

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In post 883, cyrus62 wrote:there are two players them and it being thire 1st game if they are town they deserve to win. VOTE: No elimination
Thats a bad thing to do .... as town right??
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Post Post #885 (ISO) » Wed Jun 16, 2021 6:38 pm

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happy I voted
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Post Post #886 (ISO) » Wed Jun 16, 2021 6:40 pm

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if you want StrangeMatter you and HockeyFan would put them over the 5 votes
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Post Post #887 (ISO) » Wed Jun 16, 2021 6:47 pm

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I have no issue with you not wanting to vote someone you think is town, but like, you should be voting your scum reads. From what I have gathered about your reads, you should probably vote for either Hockey or vote for me. I would feel better with that, then seeing you vote for a no elim.
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Post Post #888 (ISO) » Wed Jun 16, 2021 7:03 pm

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VOTE: Lukewarm also i just don't know if StrangeMatter is scum or not. I remember my first game i made alot of mistakes i didn't know how to vote every one thought i was scum pretending not knowing how to play. I was elim 2nd day but had caught both scum on the 1st day. But the pr who was also new didn't know that they went no where ment i was innocent. So sorry if I'm being overly nice.
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Post Post #889 (ISO) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 3:16 am

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as i said time running out fast you better make your decision quick. note lukewarm gets upset i wont hammer but doesn't seem to want to.
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Post Post #890 (ISO) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 4:35 am

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i'm trying to figure out if the way they talk is just difficult for me to parse but this seems like an empty statement

I don't really have a problem with this attitude, different people play the game in different ways.

but this seems to contradict 69 unless i'm not parsing correctly

actually they have town reads here, not scumreads, which is strange considering 69

i still don't get the questioning here, and i don't really like their explanation. some of their posts are kind of posting just to post, it seems.

why does it take time to go from scumread to a vote? this is kind of a omgus vote which isn't inherently scummy but seems a little strange

i pressure people with my vote

i was saying probability-wise if someone's not here to post they could still be scum and worth looking at, i didn't mean to imply haschel was scum because he wasn't posting, hence the "it could be him"

@Strange, how do you pressure people? I think you accuse me of not pressuring people, but i feel like you're leaving your vote on people without following up much.

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it is weird she calls out hockeyfan for not answering her questions

i like this, a good way to call cyrus out

this list feels organic

i like the thought behind this post

my one problem with Zyla is that she has a lot of fluff in her posts. i thought there was more to them but there's a lot of posts that don't quite mean much

@Zyla what are your reads now?

now that i've gone through the isos i'll try and collect my thoughts and vote again
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Post Post #891 (ISO) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 4:40 am

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Null (town lean)
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i like the wagon composition on strangematter

VOTE: StrangeMatter E-1
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Post Post #892 (ISO) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 4:47 am

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There are still two days left in d1. Even though I'm as ready as anybody for the first day to be over, don't let Cyrus rush you.

I don't have any new reads today, I think we've beaten the reading process into the ground at this point.
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Post Post #893 (ISO) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:18 am

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Towny


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HC ~ Hockey

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Honestly, my most extreme reads are only leans rn (hence no one in full green or red), but that's where I'm standing rn

And also there's Cyrus who's just sort of ... existing outside of reads right now
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Post Post #894 (ISO) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:21 am

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In post 890, Save The Dragons wrote: @Strange, how do you pressure people? I think you accuse me of not pressuring people, but i feel like you're leaving your vote on people without following up much.
Pressure to me is more like you have to force them into making a move, that's interpreted as something normal to have been said. Right now, there's almost nothing on you in particular. And right now, I just don't have much other reason to be on this, besides having reads and voting considering being enough for pressure.

What makes you think 69 and 76 contradict each other? And, don't you do other things instead of voting for pressure?
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Post Post #895 (ISO) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:26 am

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it's possible i'm not parsing it correctly, it looked like you were saying "i do scum reads first" in 69 and then "i use POE once i have town reads to find the scum" in 76

i talk to people, ask them questions, sometimes accuse them, try to get them to slip up or give more information. i haven't been doing that lately just because i've been busy/overextended but i'll try to do that more often going forward.
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Post Post #896 (ISO) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 6:07 am

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intent to hammer
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Post Post #897 (ISO) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 6:09 am

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strange matter your role please i'll give you all 30 mins
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Post Post #898 (ISO) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 6:26 am

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First of all, why should I even reveal my role right now. That's a last resort, and right now I'm not going to give scum anything just to survive. Plus, you'll know my role after I'm dead, so go ahead.
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Post Post #899 (ISO) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 6:40 am

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In post 898, StrangeMatter wrote:First of all, why should I even reveal my role right now. That's a last resort, and right now I'm not going to give scum anything just to survive. Plus, you'll know my role after I'm dead, so go ahead.
If you have a claim to make, this is the time. Cyrus might be bluffing, but he might have already hammered in the time it takes me to post this.
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