Ok, newb.In post 249, Val89 wrote: "He's town because he gives no shits about doing this things he says town should do, I'm an SE slot you newb so trust me." I ain't buying that.
You should vote Zyla.In post 249, Val89 wrote: You buy his read on Grandpa as genuine? Zyla is the other one driving that wagon, and I agree she's likely flipping red here too.
I disagree. Town usually is consistent generally through the bigger picture but has a minor inconsistencies that can be justified.In post 248, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Town stay inconsistent all the time.In post 247, Val89 wrote:You've established you are a fan of conciseness, and James don't post all that much, but what he does post is consistently inconsistent with his own stated position of how town should/do act.
Only scum cares about keeping up an appearance of looking good.
Changing a vote from a player they read as scummy to a new player they read as even more scummy makes sense as an progression so i disagree with your take that it comes from nowhere and that it is necesarilly an scummy act.
I’m not faulting you for the read as i generally think it is an typical reasoning for scumreading slots as an novice town player. But when you’ve played for a bit as i have you learn to recognize town from tells that don’t seem immediately obvious but are clearly there if you know what to look for.
I did scumread Zyla but I still think James is still scummier. I am not to worried about a Zyla vote but would rather vote on James in my opinion.In post 246, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Zyla has the most chance of flipping scum here imo.
In post 245, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Pushing someone for the reasoning of them: "wanting a no lim" looks really bad for you.In post 81, Zyla wrote:VOTE: VFP I don't like the fact that you seem to have chosen no-elims on D1 to be a hill you're willing to die on, nor the fact that you implied that you've won multiple games with a D1 no-elim when I can't find any examples
And especially your switch to Grandpa.
I’d wager this up as an unconvincing buss on a scum buddy, or they just pushed VFP for an really bad reason before switching gears to Grandpa.
? How is self-meta a towntell?In post 225, NorwegianboyEE wrote:This is scum seeing T3 towntell and then getting mad because it's a "trust tell".In post 167, Zyla wrote:If I'm not mistaken, the only legal way to take 74 is as a joke, otherwise I think it falls under a trust tell
@Mod, can I get confirmation on if I'm correct with that?
VOTE: Zyla
How so? No-elims are bad for town and they seemed adamant to defend their vote as being a good one, with something that is onlyIn post 245, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Pushing someone for the reasoning of them: "wanting a no lim" looks really bad for you.In post 81, Zyla wrote:VOTE: VFP I don't like the fact that you seem to have chosen no-elims on D1 to be a hill you're willing to die on, nor the fact that you implied that you've won multiple games with a D1 no-elim when I can't find any examples
I'm not going to go way hard on this particular point as i'm not James's lawyer, but it is my experience that town sometimes change their reads drastically without sharing the exact thought process. And James here went from saying they scumread Val, to saying they scumread you and that they implicitly townread Val. Why would scum!James neglect mentioning their progression? Now town!James might very well have neglected to mention this point as they simply considered that a world in which Grandpa!scum implicitly meant town!Val.In post 253, GrandpaMo wrote:@NEE, do you think that inconsistent where they implicitly townread Val through them scumreading me, comes from town?
There are slots MIA currently, and it's starting to worry me. Is Cook even playing right now?In post 251, NorwegianboyEE wrote:You should vote Zyla.
My point isn't that James is town or that you should believe it, my point is thatIn post 260, Val89 wrote:I find the "trust me newb, he's town cos I ain't a newb and I know it" about as convincing as the "trust me, he's town cos I played a game with him before" argument we get from Zyla.In post 251, NorwegianboyEE wrote:You should vote Zyla.
Now you're just blatantly misrepping what i said to discredit me.In post 261, Zyla wrote:For the other part, I 100% think that "I'm the SE, so vote how I tell you" is bad form, although I haven't decided yet rather it's scummy, or someone who thinks they're better at this game than they are
I see a world where a town player change their reads without sharing the thought process as a matter of playstyle. I see a world were a newb town player sees that town player and incorrectly reads that as scummy. I see a world where a newbscum player is careful not to forget to share their progression for fear of being read as scum.In post 258, NorwegianboyEE wrote:my experience that town sometimes change their reads drastically without sharing the exact thought process.
I don't know how else this post is supposed to be takenIn post 262, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Now you're just blatantly misrepping what i said to discredit me.In post 261, Zyla wrote:For the other part, I 100% think that "I'm the SE, so vote how I tell you" is bad form, although I haven't decided yet rather it's scummy, or someone who thinks they're better at this game than they are
I've brought up that i have experience, yes. And i used that as an added supplement for my argumentation. But most of my posting has been used to explain my reasoning for believing James to be more likely town than scum and i've also listened to Val's case and responded as to what i think. So to say that all i've done is say to vote with me because i'm the SE is plain wrong.
In post 251, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Ok, newb.In post 249, Val89 wrote: "He's town because he gives no shits about doing this things he says town should do, I'm an SE slot you newb so trust me." I ain't buying that.You should vote Zyla.In post 249, Val89 wrote: You buy his read on Grandpa as genuine? Zyla is the other one driving that wagon, and I agree she's likely flipping red here too.
First part of 251 was an obvious joke.In post 264, Zyla wrote:I don't know how else this post is supposed to be taken
- Your scummy voting pattern.In post 268, Zyla wrote:Also, don't tell us how to vote, tell uswhyto vote.
To paraphrase you: are you capable of summarizing what you've said about me into one easy to read post?
What makes it scummy?In post 269, NorwegianboyEE wrote:- Your scummy voting pattern.In post 268, Zyla wrote:Also, don't tell us how to vote, tell uswhyto vote.
To paraphrase you: are you capable of summarizing what you've said about me into one easy to read post?
.. Something that's provably anti-town.- Pushing a slot for wanting no lim.
Read my very next post. I wasn't calling it a trust tell, I was saying it- Calling T3's post an trust tell and pestering mod about it.
The change over to Grandpa when seeing no reaction from your "wanting no lim is scummy" vote on VFP.In post 270, Zyla wrote:What makes it scummy?
Yes you are very much correct. I think Jame's reaction will tell us a lot imo. And I still really hope for a response to my points.In post 259, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Anyway i will let this point ruminate as i wait to see James's response to all of this.