Newbie 2069: Summertime [game over!]

ItalianoVD · Post Post #50 (ISO) » Mon Jun 21, 2021 3:48 pm

In post 35, StrangeMatter wrote:However, #25 and #26 are reasonable concerns. But I won't rule out the possibility that scum could've jumped on it to look town either.

You think both scum would jump on the same thing at the same time?

Roden · Post Post #51 (ISO) » Mon Jun 21, 2021 4:04 pm

In post 44, Noraa wrote:I currently have three scum reads life is just beautiful ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Three scum reads this early? What's your metric?

StrangeMatter · Post Post #52 (ISO) » Mon Jun 21, 2021 4:08 pm

In post 50, ItalianoVD wrote:
In post 35, StrangeMatter wrote:However, #25 and #26 are reasonable concerns. But I won't rule out the possibility that scum could've jumped on it to look town either.
You think both scum would jump on the same thing at the same time?

I meant that it is a completely possible, and while not likely, should not be ignored. Leaving out part of someone's thoughts without a good reason, to me often just comes off as if they're hiding something, or could be actively trying to deceive others.

Roden · Post Post #53 (ISO) » Mon Jun 21, 2021 4:20 pm

I think you're reading too much into RVS.

VOTE: StrangeMatter

StrangeMatter · Post Post #54 (ISO) » Mon Jun 21, 2021 4:33 pm

Probably, but it's a choice I made and I still stand by what I said in the last post.

It's getting late, so I'll probably be back tomorrow.

Noraa · Post Post #55 (ISO) » Mon Jun 21, 2021 4:36 pm

In post 53, Roden wrote:I think you're reading too much into RVS.

VOTE: StrangeMatter

I also think you are scum. Tell me why Strange matter is scum and you aren't "reading too much into RVS" or is that just another RVS vote?
For bonus points, figure out why I think you are scum

Noraa · Post Post #56 (ISO) » Mon Jun 21, 2021 4:37 pm

In post 51, Roden wrote:
In post 44, Noraa wrote:I currently have three scum reads life is just beautiful ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Three scum reads this early? What's your metric?

metric?

Roden · Post Post #57 (ISO) » Mon Jun 21, 2021 4:51 pm

In post 55, Noraa wrote:
In post 53, Roden wrote:I think you're reading too much into RVS.

VOTE: StrangeMatter
I also think you are scum. Tell me why Strange matter is scum and you aren't "reading too much into RVS" or is that just another RVS vote?
For bonus points, figure out why I think you are scum

Kinda figured I was one of your three.

I have no way of knowing why Strange is scum, the game just started. I just put a vote on them to see what would happen.

Pretty sure I know why you think I'm scum. I won't entertain your reasoning though because it's pretty flimsy, and we both know you're just gauging me anyway.

Noraa wrote:
In post 51, Roden wrote:
In post 44, Noraa wrote:I currently have three scum reads life is just beautiful ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Three scum reads this early? What's your metric?
metric?

How much/how little it takes for something to ping you.

ItalianoVD · Post Post #58 (ISO) » Mon Jun 21, 2021 5:09 pm

In post 53, Roden wrote:I think you're reading too much into RVS.

VOTE: StrangeMatter

VOTE: Roden

How can anyone fight that?

ItalianoVD · Post Post #59 (ISO) » Mon Jun 21, 2021 5:14 pm

In post 52, StrangeMatter wrote:I meant that it is a completely possible, and while not likely, should not be ignored. Leaving out part of someone's thoughts without a good reason, to me often just comes off as if they're hiding something, or could be actively trying to deceive others.

I get that but sometimes you do have to just be logical. It’s not about ignoring it’s just logic. Do you think they are both scum? Just one? Who?

ItalianoVD · Post Post #60 (ISO) » Mon Jun 21, 2021 5:17 pm

In post 57, Roden wrote:Pretty sure I know why you think I'm scum. I won't entertain your reasoning though because it's pretty flimsy, and we both know you're just gauging me anyway.

Care to tell it to me then? I’m kinda curious.

Roden · Post Post #61 (ISO) » Mon Jun 21, 2021 5:23 pm

Not yet. I'm waiting.

Noraa · Post Post #62 (ISO) » Mon Jun 21, 2021 5:33 pm

In post 57, Roden wrote:Pretty sure I know why you think I'm scum. I won't entertain your reasoning though because it's pretty flimsy, and we both know you're just gauging me anyway.

Mind telling me what my flimsy reasoning is? or at least why you think I SR you? I do but you can get town points for answering correctly

Noraa · Post Post #63 (ISO) » Mon Jun 21, 2021 5:34 pm

In post 57, Roden wrote:How much/how little it takes for something to ping you.

even the faintest sense that scum is nearby can ping me

Noraa · Post Post #64 (ISO) » Mon Jun 21, 2021 5:38 pm

Roden are you a newbie? tell me a bit about your mafia experience please!

Roden · Post Post #65 (ISO) » Mon Jun 21, 2021 5:44 pm

In post 63, Noraa wrote:
In post 57, Roden wrote:How much/how little it takes for something to ping you.
even the faintest sense that scum is nearby can ping me

That sounds like a pretty useless scum radar to me. Townies do scummy shit all the time.

In post 62, Noraa wrote:
In post 57, Roden wrote:Pretty sure I know why you think I'm scum. I won't entertain your reasoning though because it's pretty flimsy, and we both know you're just gauging me anyway.
Mind telling me what my flimsy reasoning is? or at least why you think I SR you? I do but you can get town points for answering correctly

I don't think your town points mean much if I can get scum points just for commenting on Bakslash's post.

Noraa · Post Post #66 (ISO) » Mon Jun 21, 2021 5:47 pm

In post 65, Roden wrote:I don't think your town points mean much if I can get scum points just for commenting on Bakslash's post.

you think I scum read you solely because of that?

Noraa · Post Post #67 (ISO) » Mon Jun 21, 2021 5:51 pm

Rather than constantly discrediting me, I'd appreciate if you just answered my questions. Because if you are town here, you are making me SR you far more than you would if you just answered questions instead of being super defensive. I haven't even told you why I SR you. Relax and answer my questions. I have yet to give a solid read. Currently I only have suspicions but they mean nothing if I end up thinking you are town. If you are town, you have nothing to worry about.

Roden · Post Post #68 (ISO) » Mon Jun 21, 2021 5:53 pm

In post 64, Noraa wrote:Roden are you a newbie? tell me a bit about your mafia experience please!

I am, I just read up a bunch on the game over the past couple months. Mainly just the wiki, but also some Newbie games and example games. Never really played post-by-post Mafia until joining this site though. I've played Mafia casually as a party game with friends though.

Noraa wrote:
In post 65, Roden wrote:I don't think your town points mean much if I can get scum points just for commenting on Bakslash's post.
you think I scum read you solely because of that?

If my vote on Strange pinged you then your points really do mean nothing. Scum doesn't hop on wagons that are DoA.

Roden · Post Post #69 (ISO) » Mon Jun 21, 2021 5:56 pm

In post 67, Noraa wrote:Rather than constantly discrediting me, I'd appreciate if you just answered my questions. Because if you are town here, you are making me SR you far more than you would if you just answered questions instead of being super defensive. I haven't even told you why I SR you. Relax and answer my questions. I have yet to give a solid read. Currently I only have suspicions but they mean nothing if I end up thinking you are town. If you are town, you have nothing to worry about.

Your attempts at intimidating me aren't gonna work, sorry. Your question has zero calories and adds nothing to the game. Telling me to relax when you're the one getting riled up is some interesting projection though.

Noraa · Post Post #70 (ISO) » Mon Jun 21, 2021 5:56 pm

I don't know what DoA is but I'll just tell you why I SR you. If you are town, I am certain we will get along just fine once I realize that. I'm having some trouble reading you at the moment but I do think its very very possible you are town here. There's just a couple things I have some issues with. Maybe we can clear these up rn.

Roden · Post Post #71 (ISO) » Mon Jun 21, 2021 5:57 pm

DoA = Dead on arrival

Noraa · Post Post #72 (ISO) » Mon Jun 21, 2021 6:11 pm

In post 43, Roden wrote:Not sure what to think of Bakslash avoiding participating in RVS.
I think scum would want to blend in and throw a random vote out though
.

This was the first post that I had an issue with. It looks pretty simple upon first seeing it but I keep getting ominous feelings from it. I worry because it feels like it has ulterior motives to it. Calling out Bakslash is so random and specific given at this point in time there were multiple players who hadn't even posted. What makes you think bakslash is specifically avoiding? The part that worries me the most is the bolded part. I keep getting ominous feelings because it feels very .... idk tricky and slippery. Like I feel like its very simple and straightforward but it's also kind of saying "look I didn't just throw a random vote out to blend in. I must be town" and that level of the simplest manipulation really just makes me think noob scum.
I'm biased because noob scum me was 100% like that but I understand not all newbies are like me. But I just keep getting ominous feelings about this post. Idk this is one of my biggest issues with you atm. Lets talk this out please.

In post 51, Roden wrote:
In post 44, Noraa wrote:I currently have three scum reads life is just beautiful ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Three scum reads this early? What's your metric?

In post 57, Roden wrote:
In post 55, Noraa wrote:
In post 53, Roden wrote:I think you're reading too much into RVS.

VOTE: StrangeMatter
I also think you are scum. Tell me why Strange matter is scum and you aren't "reading too much into RVS" or is that just another RVS vote?
For bonus points, figure out why I think you are scum

Kinda figured I was one of your three.

Pretty sure I know why you think I'm scum. I won't entertain your reasoning though because it's pretty flimsy, and we both know you're just gauging me anyway.

The progression from shock that I had three scum reads to being like "I figured I was one of them" read kind of self conscious and fake.
I'm more worried about the fake part since i guess I could see town thinking I was talking about them and brushing it off to not seem self conscious. I totally see that since I do that occasionally and subconsciously a lot of the time also.

To clarify, the fake part is kinda like the asking what my metric was which is not something I typically would expect town to ask there because idk it feels like covering up fakeness(the shock). I might be reading too much into this tbh.

In post 65, Roden wrote:
In post 63, Noraa wrote:
In post 57, Roden wrote:How much/how little it takes for something to ping you.
even the faintest sense that scum is nearby can ping me
That sounds like a pretty useless scum radar to me. Townies do scummy shit all the time.

In post 62, Noraa wrote:
In post 57, Roden wrote:Pretty sure I know why you think I'm scum. I won't entertain your reasoning though because it's pretty flimsy, and we both know you're just gauging me anyway.
Mind telling me what my flimsy reasoning is? or at least why you think I SR you? I do but you can get town points for answering correctly
I don't think your town points mean much if I can get scum points just for commenting on Bakslash's post.

This was all SOOOO defensive. I'm not a fan but I don't feel as strongly about this post since I've seen defensive townies that will discredit as a way to defend themselves.

Noraa · Post Post #73 (ISO) » Mon Jun 21, 2021 6:12 pm

So Roden, I don't think you are definitely scum at this point in time but I have some concerns. If you would reply, I would be very happy and be able to sort you more easily. I have to go sleep now but I'd love to see replies by tomorrow if its no trouble

Noraa · Post Post #74 (ISO) » Mon Jun 21, 2021 6:14 pm

In post 69, Roden wrote:
In post 67, Noraa wrote:Rather than constantly discrediting me, I'd appreciate if you just answered my questions. Because if you are town here, you are making me SR you far more than you would if you just answered questions instead of being super defensive. I haven't even told you why I SR you. Relax and answer my questions. I have yet to give a solid read. Currently I only have suspicions but they mean nothing if I end up thinking you are town. If you are town, you have nothing to worry about.
Your attempts at intimidating me aren't gonna work, sorry. Your question has zero calories and adds nothing to the game. Telling me to relax when you're the one getting riled up is some interesting projection though.

Man are you defensive. Oh well I'll still try to work with you if I believe you are town. We'll see