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Post Post #1150 (ISO) » Fri Jun 25, 2021 6:43 pm

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Zyla
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Post Post #1151 (ISO) » Fri Jun 25, 2021 6:44 pm

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Huh.
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Post Post #1152 (ISO) » Fri Jun 25, 2021 6:46 pm

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Went no where so scum lie in pav std hockey and he Zyla went no where
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Post Post #1153 (ISO) » Fri Jun 25, 2021 6:48 pm

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So hc I'm town Zyla is town out of the 3besides you who is scummy
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Post Post #1154 (ISO) » Fri Jun 25, 2021 6:49 pm

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VOTE: hockey
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Post Post #1155 (ISO) » Fri Jun 25, 2021 6:55 pm

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I'm going trust Zyla reads which were hockey and std and pav said hockey too so let's remove him and it will be between Zyla std and hc ok last vt idk who you are but don't vote Zyla on day4
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Post Post #1156 (ISO) » Fri Jun 25, 2021 6:56 pm

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No way scum lets me live .
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Post Post #1157 (ISO) » Fri Jun 25, 2021 6:57 pm

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There is a chance that u just got rbed right? Zyla is almost hard confirmed town but not 100% with that being said, I will vote the other person who I think is scum


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Post Post #1158 (ISO) » Fri Jun 25, 2021 7:02 pm

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No Zyla is 100% town the Br is dead hockey lets eliminate hc think about it the jail keep locked up Zyla so hc would know since he's se that Zyla is innocent. VOTE: hc
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Post Post #1159 (ISO) » Fri Jun 25, 2021 7:04 pm

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In post 1158, cyrus62 wrote:No Zyla is 100% town the Br is dead hockey lets eliminate hc think about it the jail keep locked up Zyla so hc would know since he's se that Zyla is innocent. VOTE: hc
Why would I know that the jailkeeper locked up Zyla?
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Post Post #1160 (ISO) » Fri Jun 25, 2021 7:07 pm

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In post 1159, Haschel Cedricson wrote:
In post 1158, cyrus62 wrote:No Zyla is 100% town the Br is dead hockey lets eliminate hc think about it the jail keep locked up Zyla so hc would know since he's se that Zyla is innocent. VOTE: hc
Why would I know that the jailkeeper locked up Zyla?
Did you not read I told him to lock up Zyla? Have you not been using the two days to catch up
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Post Post #1161 (ISO) » Fri Jun 25, 2021 7:08 pm

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In post 1158, cyrus62 wrote:No Zyla is 100% town the Br is dead hockey lets eliminate hc think about it the jail keep locked up Zyla so hc would know since he's se that Zyla is innocent. VOTE: hc
No i meant Azeru could have been on u
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Post Post #1162 (ISO) » Fri Jun 25, 2021 7:11 pm

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Zyla the balls in your court you are confirm town so tell me who you want to go in to day4 with scum won't let me live to day4
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Post Post #1163 (ISO) » Fri Jun 25, 2021 7:13 pm

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In post 1161, HockeyFan wrote:
In post 1158, cyrus62 wrote:No Zyla is 100% town the Br is dead hockey lets eliminate hc think about it the jail keep locked up Zyla so hc would know since he's se that Zyla is innocent. VOTE: hc
No i meant Azeru could have been on u
ok newbi I know it's my job to teach you. Jk blocks if I was locked up I would get no result
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Post Post #1164 (ISO) » Fri Jun 25, 2021 7:17 pm

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Hockey you realize every one is scum reading you . If I was town and every one thought I was scum I would try to get my self voted off so town stood a better chance in d4
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Post Post #1165 (ISO) » Fri Jun 25, 2021 7:18 pm

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In post 1160, cyrus62 wrote:
In post 1159, Haschel Cedricson wrote:
In post 1158, cyrus62 wrote:No Zyla is 100% town the Br is dead hockey lets eliminate hc think about it the jail keep locked up Zyla so hc would know since he's se that Zyla is innocent. VOTE: hc
Why would I know that the jailkeeper locked up Zyla?
Did you not read I told him to lock up Zyla? Have you not been using the two days to catch up
I did read that you told Azeru to lock of Zyla. I did not read anything indicating that Azeru agreed to do that.

Luke's interactions regarding Zyla were suspicious as hell so if Zyla is cleared via tracker then I need to go back to the drawing board.
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Post Post #1166 (ISO) » Fri Jun 25, 2021 7:34 pm

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In post 1165, Haschel Cedricson wrote:
In post 1160, cyrus62 wrote:
In post 1159, Haschel Cedricson wrote:
In post 1158, cyrus62 wrote:No Zyla is 100% town the Br is dead hockey lets eliminate hc think about it the jail keep locked up Zyla so hc would know since he's se that Zyla is innocent. VOTE: hc
Why would I know that the jailkeeper locked up Zyla?
Did you not read I told him to lock up Zyla? Have you not been using the two days to catch up
I did read that you told Azeru to lock of Zyla. I did not read anything indicating that Azeru agreed to do that.

Luke's interactions regarding Zyla were suspicious as hell so if Zyla is cleared via tracker then I need to go back to the drawing board.
I thought the same I think Luke pocketed her. My last result said she went no where and with only 1 scum they can't hide that now. Look in to Luke and std and Luke and hockey. I asked std pav and Zyla they all said hockey was scum. Luke and hockey kept protecting each other..
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Post Post #1167 (ISO) » Fri Jun 25, 2021 7:46 pm

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"Keep" defending is a bit strong but I do see how a Luke/Hockey pairing could be feasible. I forget who came up with the theory but there's something called the Rule Of Three that states if a mafioso gives three townreads then one of the three will be a partner. Lukewarm put me/Hockey/Zyla as his three strongest townreads in 359, and then Zyla/Azeru/Hockey in 844 and 1012.
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Post Post #1168 (ISO) » Fri Jun 25, 2021 7:51 pm

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I can't be right
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Post Post #1169 (ISO) » Sat Jun 26, 2021 3:34 am

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Post Post #1170 (ISO) » Sat Jun 26, 2021 3:45 am

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I'm gonna look back at ISOs to try and figure out who the two people to be pushed out should be, but first, a question that I've been planning on asking since it happened.

@STD: why did you hammer luke so early in the day? While Luke was pretty much confirmed scum at that point, did have a point to it. It would've been helpful to see everyone's reactions to , and we were denied information because of it
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Post Post #1171 (ISO) » Sat Jun 26, 2021 3:57 am

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To me, the likeliest prospects for a scumpartner are STD and Hockey. I need to look back over the ISOs and the vote progressions, but:

STD -- I can 100% see a world where scumLuke keeps pressure on his partner for a while at first -- he was a target of suspicion for much of d1 and continued to be through d2 -- before shifting to tunnel on me, before Azeru dropped the bomb on him. At which point ... I'm still trying to see what to make of all that flailing once he knew he was cooked. And then STD hammers with only a few words. This could be the case.

Hockey -- in 1078 tries to pump the brakes on the Luke wagon before jumping onto it a few posts later. Then adds nothing else. Granted not a ton of time passed, but I could see scum lying low and bussing Luke when the jig was clearly up.

So Cyrus clears Zyla, and Cyrus will be dead tonight. We can miselim once. I still have reservations about Haschel but to me these are the top two choices right now.
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Post Post #1172 (ISO) » Sat Jun 26, 2021 4:46 am

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Well, let me consider. If Az blocked Zyla ... no, never mind. If Az blocked Zyla and Zyla were the last mafia, there would be no kill, ergo Zyla not moving means Zyla is cleared.

Assuming Cyrus is cleared. But if Cyrus is mafia at this point then I need to have a good lie down.

Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Post Post #1173 (ISO) » Sat Jun 26, 2021 4:51 am

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If Cyrus is Mafia then the real tracker would counterclaim; we know we have one because of the other flipped roles.
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Post Post #1174 (ISO) » Sat Jun 26, 2021 4:59 am

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STD, I don't like the fact that you voted before HC had a chance to react to Azeru's post. However, the fact that Luke started the day voting you intrigues me, was he bussing you? Trying to make it look like he was? Assuming he was trying to be in a town mindset, do you think any of his posts towards you had legitimate scumpoints about you?

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As for HC, you were supposedly one of his top scum reads, and the only one of 'the big 3' that he voted for, but when Luke knows that he's done for and getting voted off, he doesn't say a word about you. Why so distant?
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