Silent Star 4: Yin and Yang


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Post Post #1275 (ISO) » Sun Jul 04, 2021 6:44 pm

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Or multiple.
And we can't really know if what Yin is saying is true.

But i just want to condense what he's saying in case it becomes useful at some point.
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Post Post #1276 (ISO) » Sun Jul 04, 2021 6:45 pm

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In post 1272, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Well actually Morning Tweet, the answer is specifically that "a least 1 member of the scum team has received at least five votes up to this point"
Meaning Yin is saying there is a scum in Ircher/Infinity/Nakata.
Ah, it looked like "The most any scumteam member has been voted is 5 times" to me.

But that makes a lot more sense if accurate
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Post Post #1277 (ISO) » Sun Jul 04, 2021 6:46 pm

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In post 1273, Morning Tweet wrote:
In post 1269, NorwegianboyEE wrote:According to Yin:

- There is scum in Ircher/Infinity/Nakata
- There is scum in Norwee/Pooky/Chara
- There are 3 factions (Repeated twice)
- Yang is not an criminal.
- Pooky has voted for a criminal at some point. (Voted slots before post : Chara/Tanner/Morning Tweet/Ydrasse)
Also, there is zero or one scum in Amy/Robert/Tanner.
Yeah right, it was a really big non-statement but thinking about it, it means there can only be maximum 1 scum in that group. Or there is 0.
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Post Post #1278 (ISO) » Sun Jul 04, 2021 6:46 pm

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In post 1273, Morning Tweet wrote:
In post 1269, NorwegianboyEE wrote:According to Yin:

- There is scum in Ircher/Infinity/Nakata
- There is scum in Norwee/Pooky/Chara
- There are 3 factions (Repeated twice)
- Yang is not an criminal.
- Pooky has voted for a criminal at some point. (Voted slots before post : Chara/Tanner/Morning Tweet/Ydrasse)
Also, there is zero or one scum in
Amy
/Robert/Tanner.
0-1 really doesn’t tell us anything.
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Post Post #1279 (ISO) » Sun Jul 04, 2021 6:47 pm

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In post 1269, NorwegianboyEE wrote:According to Yin:

- There is scum in Ircher/Infinity/Nakata
- There is scum in Norwee/Pooky/Chara
- There is either 0 or maximum 1 scum in: Amy/Robert/Tanner
- There are 3 factions (Repeated twice)
- Yang is not an criminal.
- Pooky has voted for a criminal at some point. (Voted slots before post : Chara/Tanner/Morning Tweet/Ydrasse)
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Post Post #1280 (ISO) » Sun Jul 04, 2021 6:48 pm

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In post 1276, Morning Tweet wrote:
In post 1272, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Well actually Morning Tweet, the answer is specifically that "a least 1 member of the scum team has received at least five votes up to this point"
Meaning Yin is saying there is a scum in Ircher/Infinity/Nakata.
Ah, it looked like "The most any scumteam member has been voted is 5 times" to me.

But that makes a lot more sense if accurate
That’s way more useful than 0-1 anyway.
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Post Post #1281 (ISO) » Sun Jul 04, 2021 6:48 pm

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In post 1277, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 1273, Morning Tweet wrote:
In post 1269, NorwegianboyEE wrote:According to Yin:

- There is scum in Ircher/Infinity/Nakata
- There is scum in Norwee/Pooky/Chara
- There are 3 factions (Repeated twice)
- Yang is not an criminal.
- Pooky has voted for a criminal at some point. (Voted slots before post : Chara/Tanner/Morning Tweet/Ydrasse)
Also, there is zero or one scum in Amy/Robert/Tanner.
Yeah right, it was a really big non-statement but thinking about it, it means there can only be maximum 1 scum in that group. Or there is 0.
So, it’s useless.
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Post Post #1282 (ISO) » Sun Jul 04, 2021 6:49 pm

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In post 1278, Amy Dunne wrote:
In post 1273, Morning Tweet wrote:
In post 1269, NorwegianboyEE wrote:According to Yin:

- There is scum in Ircher/Infinity/Nakata
- There is scum in Norwee/Pooky/Chara
- There are 3 factions (Repeated twice)
- Yang is not an criminal.
- Pooky has voted for a criminal at some point. (Voted slots before post : Chara/Tanner/Morning Tweet/Ydrasse)
Also, there is zero or one scum in
Amy
/Robert/Tanner.
0-1 really doesn’t tell us anything.
It does tell us that if 1 scum flips in that group then the other 2 should not be scum.

Of course, this is all big assumptions to make since we don't know what Yin's purpose is, they could just be here to mislead us.
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Post Post #1283 (ISO) » Sun Jul 04, 2021 6:49 pm

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In post 1278, Amy Dunne wrote:
In post 1273, Morning Tweet wrote:
In post 1269, NorwegianboyEE wrote:According to Yin:

- There is scum in Ircher/Infinity/Nakata
- There is scum in Norwee/Pooky/Chara
- There are 3 factions (Repeated twice)
- Yang is not an criminal.
- Pooky has voted for a criminal at some point. (Voted slots before post : Chara/Tanner/Morning Tweet/Ydrasse)
Also, there is zero or one scum in
Amy
/Robert/Tanner.
0-1 really doesn’t tell us anything.
Well I think it reflects well on that being my current town bloc, at least. If you reverse it, that means there's guaranteed 2 town.

pedit: "The most any scumteam member has been voted is 5 times" is useless cause no one has gone over 5. Unless someone has.
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Post Post #1284 (ISO) » Sun Jul 04, 2021 6:53 pm

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In post 1283, Morning Tweet wrote:
In post 1278, Amy Dunne wrote:
In post 1273, Morning Tweet wrote:
In post 1269, NorwegianboyEE wrote:According to Yin:

- There is scum in Ircher/Infinity/Nakata
- There is scum in Norwee/Pooky/Chara
- There are 3 factions (Repeated twice)
- Yang is not an criminal.
- Pooky has voted for a criminal at some point. (Voted slots before post : Chara/Tanner/Morning Tweet/Ydrasse)
Also, there is zero or one scum in
Amy
/Robert/Tanner.
0-1 really doesn’t tell us anything.
Well I think it reflects well on that being my current town bloc, at least. If you reverse it, that means there's guaranteed 2 town.

pedit: "The most any scumteam member has been voted is 5 times" is useless cause no one has gone over 5. Unless someone has.
Being voted 5 times isn’t identical to being put at E-1 but comments like “0-1 scum” are completely meaningless.
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Post Post #1285 (ISO) » Sun Jul 04, 2021 6:54 pm

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In post 1284, Amy Dunne wrote:Being voted 5 times isn’t identical to being put at E-1 but comments like “0-1 scum” are completely meaningless.
Not completely. We've gone over it already, but assuming this is accurate information it means there are never more than 1 scum in that group of 3.
It could not be the entire scum team as that would contradict the given information.
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Post Post #1286 (ISO) » Sun Jul 04, 2021 6:55 pm

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In post 1282, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 1278, Amy Dunne wrote:
In post 1273, Morning Tweet wrote:
In post 1269, NorwegianboyEE wrote:According to Yin:

- There is scum in Ircher/Infinity/Nakata
- There is scum in Norwee/Pooky/Chara
- There are 3 factions (Repeated twice)
- Yang is not an criminal.
- Pooky has voted for a criminal at some point. (Voted slots before post : Chara/Tanner/Morning Tweet/Ydrasse)
Also, there is zero or one scum in
Amy
/Robert/Tanner.
0-1 really doesn’t tell us anything.
It does tell us that if 1 scum flips in that group then the other 2 should not be scum.

Of course, this is all big assumptions to make since we don't know what Yin's purpose is, they could just be here to mislead us.
Well Yang is a heroine and Yin is allegedly her polar opposite, so very possible. I’m taking their comments with a truckload of salt - especially Yin’s.
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Post Post #1287 (ISO) » Sun Jul 04, 2021 6:57 pm

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@mods, can we have an updated VC please?
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Post Post #1288 (ISO) » Sun Jul 04, 2021 7:00 pm

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In post 1225, pj harvey dent wrote:
Votecount 1.15


[5] Ircher:
Satoru Nakata, NorwegianboyEE, Morning Tweet, PookyTheMagicalBear, Robert M Hunter
[3] Satoru Nakata:
Infinity 324, Ydrasse, Chara
[2] Robert M Hunter:
Tanner, Flea The Magician
[1] Infinity 324:
clidd

[2] Not Voting:
Ircher, Amy Dunne

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to sentence. If there is no majority by the deadline, plurality will decide.

The deadline is in (expired on 2021-07-07 18:10:20).


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I was wrong, Ircher is at 5 votes currently according to this.
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Post Post #1289 (ISO) » Sun Jul 04, 2021 7:15 pm

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On the off chance Yin isn’t bsing us.

Yin
Have I voted a criminal yet and have I voted more than 1 of them?
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Post Post #1290 (ISO) » Sun Jul 04, 2021 11:31 pm

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Yin

- Are there any truly criminal between
Amy Dunne, Ydrasse and Ircher?

Yang

- Hi.
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Post Post #1291 (ISO) » Sun Jul 04, 2021 11:34 pm

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@Yang

Should we trust what Yin says?
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Post Post #1292 (ISO) » Sun Jul 04, 2021 11:35 pm

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@Yin
Do you have an win condition?
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Post Post #1293 (ISO) » Sun Jul 04, 2021 11:37 pm

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In post 1292, NorwegianboyEE wrote:@Yin
Do you have an win condition?
Rephrasing that.

Yin

Do you have an win condition or is it your purpose to increase the chances of an particular faction to win the game?
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Post Post #1294 (ISO) » Sun Jul 04, 2021 11:40 pm

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@Yang

Do you prefer town or some other faction to win the game?
Does it matter to you or are you bound by some form of contract?
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Post Post #1295 (ISO) » Mon Jul 05, 2021 12:29 am

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@Morning

I don't think that Ircher tried anything to "look" towny tbh.

Although he commented at times to add traction to certain wagons, the occasional format he used seemed very strange within game planning. Scum!he would know how scummy that looks.
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Post Post #1296 (ISO) » Mon Jul 05, 2021 12:30 am

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But, again, maybe you could be right if there wasn't any prior rationalization on scum!Ircher's part on how to approach/adapt to the pace of play and all he's been doing is simply clinging to the narrative of "I'm playing in a different way" as a pretext to maintain an apathetic instance with brief and superficial participations.
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Post Post #1297 (ISO) » Mon Jul 05, 2021 12:33 am

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After reviewing my theory, I had different results when considering a semi-complacent low cognitive strategic flow on the part of scum!Ircher, but I'm kind of skeptical of scum!he playing in this way and discarding the adaptability. I mean, even if true, meh, he's basically playing with a clock on his head saying "you'll get caught soon" and doing nothing about it.
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Post Post #1298 (ISO) » Mon Jul 05, 2021 12:45 am

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In post 1297, clidd wrote:After reviewing my theory, I had different results when considering a semi-complacent low cognitive strategic flow on the part of scum!Ircher, but I'm kind of skeptical of scum!he playing in this way and discarding the adaptability. I mean, even if true, meh, he's basically playing with a clock on his head saying "you'll get caught soon" and doing nothing about it.
Sure you can ask "why would he play this way", but that goes both ways.
Why would he play suboptimally in a way that get’s him looking suspicious as town? There is no good reason for that either, meaning it’s pointless to speculate in that direction.
Point is he is not playing towny, and if someone doesn’t play townie it doesn’t make them town.
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Post Post #1299 (ISO) » Mon Jul 05, 2021 12:47 am

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Pretty boring if that's the case, but I'm fine with he being the elim/going to E-1 to claim (if applicable) if the same posting pattern continues. I won't be in the wagon (obviously), but I won't object either.
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