Silent Star 4: Yin and Yang

[Ydrasse]

mmmm

i don't know if we should talk about if we have roles or not at large?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Theory.

Ircher is an jester that does not have the ability to vote any players.

[Tanner]

the scumteam is only jesters, and our goal is actually to yeet townies and achieve parity with jesters don't @ me

[Amy Dunne]

Hectic used to like Jesters but i *think* they fell out of favour with him. Don't quote me on that tho

I feel more strongly that killing Ircher is beneficial to us

pedit: Wait has Ircher never voted anyone?

Nope, just Yin.

[Morning Tweet]

I don't think he's a Jester, he still maintained a semblance of playing and tended to attack the bigger wagons. Doesn't make sense if you want those wagons to live.

[Morning Tweet]

I don't think he's a Jester, he still maintained a semblance of playing and tended to attack the bigger wagons. Doesn't make sense if you want those wagons to live.

Less attack, more "shading", but you get the idea. Why do that as Jester?

[Ydrasse]

i mean, if he is a jester isn't shading what you want to do? like, subtle and not in your face

but tbh at this point ircher is clearly in our faces so ...

[NorwegianboyEE]

the scumteam is only jesters, and our goal is actually to yeet townies and achieve parity with jesters don't @ me

I could actually see Hectic putting a role like: "'Disabled voting' bulletproof jester" in the game.
Or something like what you described considering it's been an actual game.

[Morning Tweet]

I think if Ircher were protown he wouldn't be secretive about his role, as he has been. He's not working with us -- instead trying to get out of the game without sharing any info.

i mean, if he is a jester isn't shading what you want to do? like, subtle and not in your face

but tbh at this point ircher is clearly in our faces so ...

Why do it to the people who have the most heat on them?

As jester you wanna be loud, surely! And probably not against the scummiest people in the game. Ircher's play lines more up with hanging back, to me..

[Amy Dunne]

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Actor

I’ve seen this in one game I was in.

[Morning Tweet]

Ircher, do you have any takes on the players so far?

I don't remember you expressing your impressions yet.

Not really. I'm trying something a bit different this game; a bit more of an advisory role so to speak.

I'm convinced something's influenced Ircher to play this way.

I still feel like his intent was to blend in and play with us though. Take this post for example, he's preemptively covering up that he's going to play weird..

[Amy Dunne]

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Actor

I’ve seen this in one game I was in.

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Hammerer

Also this one. I don’t think there are any roles that specifically involve self-hammering though.

[Ydrasse]

mmmm

i guess it's like, you wanna be loud in a way that looks bad but also blends in to give you some plausibility? like, if you're that overt no one will kill you because no one could be *so* bad at a game, idk

[Ydrasse]

self-hammering not being allowed is probably some weird modifier if it exists

[NorwegianboyEE]

There just seems to be something really fucky about Ircher's play, and i'm brainstorming the possibilities.
Theory A: He's an vengeful that wanted people to vote him so he could kill who he reads as scum.
Theory B: He's mafia that's just playing really weird and suboptimally.
Theory C: He's an mafia town PR enabler who dying would be beneficial for scum.
Theory D: He's an jester and he can't place an vote, explaining his weird behaviour, lack of focus on scum hunting, only voting for an NPC to hide that he can't vote. Etc.

[Amy Dunne]

Ircher, do you have any takes on the players so far?

I don't remember you expressing your impressions yet.

Not really. I'm trying something a bit different this game; a bit more of an advisory role so to speak.

I'm convinced something's influenced Ircher to play this way.

I still feel like his intent was to blend in and play with us though. Take this post for example, he's preemptively covering up that he's going to play weird..

Do you think it could possibly have something to do with his role or just a conscious choice?

[Morning Tweet]

Ircher, do you have any takes on the players so far?

I don't remember you expressing your impressions yet.

Not really. I'm trying something a bit different this game; a bit more of an advisory role so to speak.

I'm convinced something's influenced Ircher to play this way.

I still feel like his intent was to blend in and play with us though. Take this post for example, he's preemptively covering up that he's going to play weird..

Do you think it could possibly have something to do with his role or just a conscious choice?

Either way he's been doing it all along. I think it's more likely his role -- that would explain no early game vote and why he was hyper fixated on the mechanics from the start

I really feel like his intent was to seem like he was contributing

Whatever it is, it's not protown. If we're gonna be punished for taking him out so be it and I'll hammer or whatever but i don't think he's going to be jester.

[Amy Dunne]

Intent to hammer. Speak now or forever hold your peace.

This makes me think something bad will happen if he self-hammers.

[Morning Tweet]

Intent to hammer. Speak now or forever hold your peace.

This makes me think something bad will happen if he self-hammers.

Well why didnt he self hammer then

[NorwegianboyEE]

I don't think Ircher is on the side of the town. So either he is a third party role or mafia. So i wouldn't hate an elimination there considering he doesn't seem very eager to explain himself.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I'll wait a bit more, but my role is on Ircher in spirit if this keeps up and he still doesn't post.

[Amy Dunne]

Ircher, do you have any takes on the players so far?

I don't remember you expressing your impressions yet.

Not really. I'm trying something a bit different this game; a bit more of an advisory role so to speak.

I'm convinced something's influenced Ircher to play this way.

I still feel like his intent was to blend in and play with us though. Take this post for example, he's preemptively covering up that he's going to play weird..

Do you think it could possibly have something to do with his role or just a conscious choice?

Either way he's been doing it all along. I think it's more likely his role -- that would explain no early game vote and why he was hyper fixated on the mechanics from the start

I really feel like his intent was to seem like he was contributing

Whatever it is, it's not protown. If we're gonna be punished for taking him out so be it and I'll hammer or whatever but i don't think he's going to be jester.

Yeah makes sense, if was jester, he would just straight up self-hammered instead of just threatening to.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I'll wait a bit more, but my vote is on Ircher in spirit if this keeps up and he still doesn't post.

EBWOP

[Ydrasse]

i'll vote ircher at this point

[Tanner]

i want to see yin's responses before we end the day too.