Silent Star 4: Yin and Yang

[Infinity 324]

And him playing weird isn't the only problem. He's not engaging with us at all about this. It seems VERY intentional. I am super confused how you find this town indictative -- NAI, maybe, but towny?

I think the not engaging part is scummy

I still feel like if ircher isn't town that he either wants to be eliminated or doesn't care if he gets eliminated

[Morning Tweet]

No, I'm just in disbelief that you think that I'm scumslipping

Especially if we've played several games as you say

[Morning Tweet]

my reads are prolly something like this by the way

{Amy Dunne, Tanner, clidd}

{Robert M Hunter, NorwegianBoyEE, Ydrasse}
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{PookyTheMagicalBear}
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{Flea The Magician, Satoru Nakata, Chara}
{Infinity 324}

{Ircher}

I only really feel super strong about the top 3 and bottom 1 though. I am kinda flipping back and forth on Infy a ton so I dont think calling her my second biggest scumread is exactly right

And the Flea/Nakata/Chara area I really don't know how to feel about

[NorwegianboyEE]

until endgame and I don't think anything good comes out of limming him.

Yes it does. We get more information about what is going on no matter their flip.
Do you want us to not know anything?

[Morning Tweet]

And him playing weird isn't the only problem. He's not engaging with us at all about this. It seems VERY intentional. I am super confused how you find this town indictative -- NAI, maybe, but towny?

I think the not engaging part is scummy

I still feel like if ircher isn't town that he either wants to be eliminated or doesn't care if he gets eliminated

I feel like the stunt he pulled with the self hammering was tailored to make us second guess eliminating him. Cause we're having all this discussion now and are getting all scared.

Also, scum can just as well be demotivated and go into a less caring playstyle so i dunno.

As long as Ircher is pretending like most of what we're saying doesnt exist I cannot see how he isn't outted scum

[NorwegianboyEE]

Ircher is our best clue at finding out what this setup is.

[Amy Dunne]

@tweet

In what way does any of that contribute to a traditional scum wincon?

I think it's more likely he's just town who agreed with some of the consensus points on nakata/robert and is just...playing weird idk

It could be scum doing a weird WIFOM play but that seems out-of-character for ircher and also really dumb

He’s town with a completely normal role doing this, why?

[Morning Tweet]

Scum is extremely more likely to know something we dont or be behaving in a way that seems bizarre to us, if Royalty is any indicator

You were town in Royalty infy, surely you remember how bizarre it felt for almost everybody to ignore how scummy Gypyx/Dunn were being in favour of completely bonkers counterwagons?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Nakata wouldn’t describe himself as tunnelled and thinks Morning Tweets attempt to portray his scumread on her as a tunnel is disingenuous.

Nakata and Morning Tweet have played a number of games together.

I think your read on MT is garbage ngl.
Infinity/Nakata/Ircher feels like a very good place to look for scum right now. And starting with Ircher.

[Satoru Nakata]

Nakata would like to know: friend NorwegianboyEE, are you not really a friend — are you a baddie?

[Amy Dunne]

Friend Amy Dunne, look at the above and reconsider your Morning Tweet TR please!

I have meta on Tweetie and this looks like her towngame. You said she’s “flying under the radar”, when that’s clearly not the case at all. That was actuality true in Royalty, where she was scum.

[Satoru Nakata]

Nakata thinks that if he’s right that Morning Tweet is scum then NorwegianboyEE is a likely partner for the way he’s chainsawing Nakata for trying to put the spotlight on Morning Tweet.

[Satoru Nakata]

Nakata thinks Morning Tweet here looks a lot like Morning Tweet in Royslty!

[Morning Tweet]

tidbit for the audience, i average roughly ~0.8 "scumslips" per game when town-aligned, but i think as of to this day I haven't been accused of one as scum. This stems from the speed i write posts as town relative to when i write em as scum

[Morning Tweet]

Nakata thinks Morning Tweet here looks a lot like Morning Tweet in Royslty!

were you in that game?

tidbit for the audience, i average roughly ~0.8 "scumslips" per game when town-aligned, but i think as of to this day I haven't been accused of one as scum. This stems from the speed i write posts as town relative to when i write em as scum

and this is why im in disbelief at Nakata's read

[Amy Dunne]

Nakata thinks Morning Tweet here looks a lot like Morning Tweet in Royslty!

She was doing essentially nothing in that game, just the occasional NAI pop in until she suddenly voted town!Hopkirk.

Here she is an active presence.

[Amy Dunne]

Nakata thinks that if he’s right that Morning Tweet is scum then NorwegianboyEE is a likely partner for the way he’s chainsawing Nakata for trying to put the spotlight on Morning Tweet.

I have no words.

[Ircher]

Some comments:

1) The intent to hammer comment was pure troll. I was not going to follow through with that, and I was well aware of how it would come across. I also thought it would be amusing, and it has proven to be so. Lots of interesting conspiracy theories formed from that.
2) I said this earlier, but I wanted to try a more advisory play style this game. One that isn't really focused on forming reads but rather on supporting the formation of reads. Perhaps the way I've gone about this is not ideal, but that's the goal. The comments that "I'm not scumhunting" are therefore more or less accurate as are the comments that I'm purposely giving neutral comments. See also: this MD thread.
3) I will try to answer some of clidd's questions later tonight, but that's probably all that I'm doing before I'm inevitably faded.

[Ircher]

Oh and 4) I'm VT. You can put your conspiracy theories to rest.

[Morning Tweet]

I have become the very thing i hate

I am very sorry to anyone trying to catch up for my contributions to the game length

Spoiler: one

Nakata wouldn’t describe himself as tunnelled and thinks Morning Tweets attempt to portray his scumread on her as a tunnel is disingenuous.

Nakata and Morning Tweet have played a number of games together.

I think your read on MT is garbage ngl.
Infinity/Nakata/Ircher feels like a very good place to look for scum right now. And starting with Ircher.

Nakata would like to know: friend NorwegianboyEE, are you not really a friend — are you a baddie?

Spoiler: two

VOTE: Robert

Money goes where my mouth is.

Am I voting your wolfmate?

same energy

This game is probably driving me to draw connections where there arent any but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Morning Tweet]

What are your personal reads Ircher

er, i guess clidd's questions cover those. That's what I need to hear about

[Amy Dunne]

Some comments:

1) The intent to hammer comment was pure troll. I was not going to follow through with that, and I was well aware of how it would come across. I also thought it would be amusing, and it has proven to be so. Lots of interesting conspiracy theories formed from that.
2) I said this earlier, but I wanted to try a more advisory play style this game. One that isn't really focused on forming reads but rather on supporting the formation of reads. Perhaps the way I've gone about this is not ideal, but that's the goal. The comments that "I'm not scumhunting" are therefore more or less accurate as are the comments that I'm purposely giving neutral comments. See also: this MD thread.
3) I will try to answer some of clidd's questions later tonight, but that's probably all that I'm doing before I'm inevitably faded.

Yes, please answer his questions and if you’re actually town here, then give us some reads so that we can see that. You can’t just tell us you’re town, do nothing town indicative and just expect us to buy it.

[Amy Dunne]

Oh and 4) I'm VT. You can put your conspiracy theories to rest.

Then why won’t you give us reads? This would actually make more sense if you were a tpr trying not to get nk’d but why play like you are as a freaking vt?

[Robert M Hunter]

Robert, is something messing with your votes/reads this game?

Not that I can think of?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Nakata would like to know: friend NorwegianboyEE, are you not really a friend — are you a baddie?

Keep going, i love to hear it.