Silent Star 4: Yin and Yang

[Chara]

i don't have a lot of faith in the ellitell. i used to subscribe to it and ended up being wrong a lot. it really depends on the player. would Inf just avoid her games as scum? i know she's been low-energy but that doesn't feel like the smoking gun it's been presented as to me.

Read my above post and confirm what Ydrasse posted (iow, literally check it out yourself). She’s not low energy unless it’s just this game. Once I checked the ellitells for myself, the low energy argument got smashed to bits.

this feels like skirting the line to me.

[Amy Dunne]

I mean let’s not give Ircher so much credit here.
If Ircher was scum with an scum partner that was completely frozen would you not start buzzing at that point?
But yeah, defo Infinity today based on this.

He could still be scum but idk why he suddenly started doing stuff but at least he’s not avoiding the game. If you just read Ydrasse’s post telling you she’s ellitelling, it probably won’t convince you unless you actually check it out for yourself. If she’s “low energy” then it’s only for this game.

[Amy Dunne]

i don't have a lot of faith in the ellitell. i used to subscribe to it and ended up being wrong a lot. it really depends on the player. would Inf just avoid her games as scum? i know she's been low-energy but that doesn't feel like the smoking gun it's been presented as to me.

Read my above post and confirm what Ydrasse posted (iow, literally check it out yourself). She’s not low energy unless it’s just this game. Once I checked the ellitells for myself, the low energy argument got smashed to bits.

this feels like skirting the line to me.

I can’t really comment without being at risk of violating some rule. That’s why I say, check it out for yourself.

[Chara]

also, @Amy: i don't think i changed my mind on Ircher anywhere recently? when i said "it's just Ircher" i meant he's the one whose play seemed really out there to me in comparison to the rest, not that he was then my biggest scumread.

[Chara]

i do still scumread him, Nakata i'm just more confident about. Inf i'm least confident about out of them but hey, day 1 scum eliminations lose games and all.

[Chara]

well, she could be scum, it wouldn't surprise me.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Why not just point out they’ve been an wet potato sack this entire time. I’ve been saying for for days.

[Amy Dunne]

Possibilities:

A) she’s struggling town who is frustrated with this game.

B) she’s floundering scum who doesn’t know what to do

C) Either/or, she’s ellitelling right near deadline and not posting which doesn’t scream protown.

If A) say “sorry guys I’m really lost here what can I do?” but not posting at all, looks like she’s just avoiding the game.

If I’m struggling town, I at least try to post something. I don’t avoid the game unless I’m literally offsite.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

im fine with the infy elim but im not moving my vote in case my bullshit nonsense theory is right

[Amy Dunne]

I agree with you Chara that by itself isn’t necessarily damning but in connection with everything else and after confirming what Ydrasse said, I find the “low energy” argument hard to fathom.

I wouldn’t hate a Nakata lim either but I just find it very hard to still think she’s town when I checked it out.

[Chara]

VOTE: Infinity
E-1.

[Amy Dunne]

im fine with the infy elim but im not moving my vote in case my bullshit nonsense theory is right

Did you ever anticipate what wound up happening in Royalty? Hectic is a madman.

[Ydrasse]

i vote to wake up from the dream

[Flea The Magician]

infinity is ellitelling btw ((((:

This is a BS tell on all levels, just saying.

There's a reason you never seen when I'm online.

[Amy Dunne]

I mean let’s not give Ircher so much credit here.
If Ircher was scum with an scum partner that was completely frozen would you not start buzzing at that point?
But yeah, defo Infinity today based on this.

Hmmm . . . that’s definitely possible. He suddenly starts being townie when momentum switches to Infinity.

[Ydrasse]

infinity is ellitelling btw ((((:

This is a BS tell on all levels, just saying.

There's a reason you never seen when I'm online.

Infinity is actively posting in other games and ignoring this one entirely despite it being deadline and her being the main wagon

[Ydrasse]

the norwee point re ircher is actually kinda interesting

[Flea The Magician]

i refuse to accept npctesting as a reason i need to hear why you think tanner is scum

The game and mechanics are centered around Yin and Yang.

There is potential for Yin to be spewing BS, but I have noticed a pattern around their responses. Patterns which are consistent.

Frankly i've already put too much effort into this game so now I'm lazy playing.

i agree Yin and Yang probably do something but i really don't think it's solving the game for us. also it's not our fault you put a lot of effort into it.

Tanner used himself in a test so he could have a conftown in his eyes to test against and see if Yin could be followed, he didn't catch himself out. your suslist isn't even from Yin, it's from other players asking questions that Yin's happened to answer, while he's ignored other groupings.

i think if anything the pattern of what Yin's answered and what he's ignored is more significant.

I have put in other efforts around the mech work. the questions Yin hasn't answered has been around 1 or 2 players.
I expect Tanner would have made a bigger deal from Yin basically scumclaiming him.
My sus list is every player that has been in a response from yin, and number of times they've been asked about, which is for my own methods. The grouplist is the one to worry about.

Like I said from the start, we could've coordinated questions to try and work this out, but nooooooooooo fleas a funkiller.

Not like I've lost games due to mechanics being ignored in the past at all...

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

im fine with the infy elim but im not moving my vote in case my bullshit nonsense theory is right

Did you ever anticipate what wound up happening in Royalty? Hectic is a madman.

well not exactly but I knew there was going to be dancing involved at some point >.>

[NorwegianboyEE]

I wouldn’t scumread someone just for not being here, but it being in conjunction with everything else that’s sus about Infinity is what makes them look worse.

[Amy Dunne]

infinity is ellitelling btw ((((:

This is a BS tell on all levels, just saying.

There's a reason you never seen when I'm online.

Infinity is

actively posting

in other games and ignoring this one entirely despite it being deadline and her being the main wagon

[Amy Dunne]

i refuse to accept npctesting as a reason i need to hear why you think tanner is scum

The game and mechanics are centered around Yin and Yang.

There is potential for Yin to be spewing BS, but I have noticed a pattern around their responses. Patterns which are consistent.

Frankly i've already put too much effort into this game so now I'm lazy playing.

i agree Yin and Yang probably do something but i really don't think it's solving the game for us. also it's not our fault you put a lot of effort into it.

Tanner used himself in a test so he could have a conftown in his eyes to test against and see if Yin could be followed, he didn't catch himself out. your suslist isn't even from Yin, it's from other players asking questions that Yin's happened to answer, while he's ignored other groupings.

i think if anything the pattern of what Yin's answered and what he's ignored is more significant.

I have put in other efforts around the mech work. the questions Yin hasn't answered has been around 1 or 2 players.
I expect Tanner would have made a bigger deal from Yin basically scumclaiming him.
My sus list is every player that has been in a response from yin, and number of times they've been asked about, which is for my own methods. The grouplist is the one to worry about.

Like I said from the start, we could've coordinated questions to try and work this out, but nooooooooooo fleas a funkiller.

Not like I've lost games due to mechanics being ignored in the past at all...

I think you’re fun and I think that’s a good plan. I’m just not sure how we’d go about coordinating our questions?

[Flea The Magician]

Energy per game is different, I've had games I've hyper posted in and others where I've been silent.

I've given several suggestions for questions.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

flea if you want me to ask yin anything just tell me

[Amy Dunne]

im fine with the infy elim but im not moving my vote in case my bullshit nonsense theory is right

Did you ever anticipate what wound up happening in Royalty? Hectic is a madman.

well not exactly but I knew there was going to be dancing involved at some point >.>

Yeah, I think a wedding them connotes dancing.

SS 1- town thought they were scum until d2.

SS 2 - everyone thought they had to communicate with severely restricted animal noises until they didn’t.

SS 3 - we probably had one of the largest scumteam in ratio to town ever and 2/3 were revealed.

SS4 - ???