Mini Theme 2222: Open Draft Mafia [Game Over]

[Flea The Magician]

Well, not all cards, but I declare some of what i got..

[T3]

Please don't.

[MURDERCAT]

Vote Count 1.2

[2] Infinity 324: cyrus62, mastina
[2] Flea The Magician: Infinity 324, Momrangal
[2] mastina: Bingle, T3
[2] Almost50: House, Dwlee99
[1] Taly: Almost50
[1] House: Flea The Magician
[1] Dwlee99: NDMath
[0] Bingle:
[0] cyrus62:
[0] Dunnstral:
[0] T3:
[0] NDMath:
[0] Momrangal:

Not voting: Dunnstral, Taly

With 13 alive it takes 7 to eliminate.

Deadline expires in

(expired on 2021-07-20 22:28:21).

[NDMath]

To be clear: the decision above is unilaterally Dunn's decision. Dunn should decide if he thinks half public masonry with him or going for a parity cop usage is better for town and announce that decision on D2. He should not announce it before then.

I disagree, I think the collective town should decide for Dunn later on in the day. We have more information in play to make a good decision with than town!Dunn alone (and the most important factor is people's read on Dunn, which is inherently more in control of the collective than Dunn), as well as it better thwarts scum!Dunn.

here is my issue with me not talking about my cards. i dont know which is a better choice. im guessing the multi task role is a good card to remove from the pack due if scum gets it, it helps them make more kills but . i would like some thoughts on this fyi idc if we should or shouldn't talk about roles due to it being better for town to help each other.

Mafia are by default able to perform a personal ability and a factional kill in this setup, so multitask has roughly equal utility for town and scum.

[NDMath]

Townleans on Dunn, Infinity, House
Light Scumleans on monkey and dwlee

Will be back to make more thorough thoughts than just that

[Infinity 324]

Who's monkey

[T3]

Who's monkey

Almost50.

[cyrus62]

Who's monkey

not mine I don't have a monkey.

[cyrus62]

Who's monkey

Almost50.

We need to step t up don't let this game be boring it sounds quite fun.

[cyrus62]

How was every ones 4th .

[Bingle]

I disagree, I think the collective town should decide for Dunn later on in the day. We have more information in play to make a good decision with than town!Dunn alone (and the most important factor is people's read on Dunn, which is inherently more in control of the collective than Dunn), as well as it better thwarts scum!Dunn.

Having the town as a whole decide for Dunn is another thing the town as a whole has to get their shit together to come to a consensus on and the decision is an incremental advantage. Having Dunn decide is a decision upon which we can read Dunn, and also makes it less likely for scum to be able to play around the mason investigation nature of the cards if we are in fact going that way.

Tell me about your Dwlee scumlean.

[Bingle]

I kinda want to do the lightning rod play again where I play with my cards face up, but I won't be taking scummy roles because of one person deciding to strike my death knell.

Please don't. Scum having imperfect information is a huge net positive for town.

[NDMath]

Tell me about your Dwlee scumlean.

I think that T3's reasoning of dwlee townreading Cyrus first is nai; I don't really know the situation regarding cyrus but townreads were gonna pile there anyway and a scum!dwlee knows that.
And dwlee's tone seems different than my prior experience with them in a negative way.


For house townlean, in particular I think post 39 comes directly from a town mindset.

For infinity townlean, there arguing posts regarding dunn seems directly protown, and am now realizing they haven't done much else

Also @Bingle, I think you're underestimating the amount town can accomplish in a phase. It just takes keeping a running list of decisions we want to make collectively instead of individually, then once when eod approaches a more mech-based player like yourself makes a proposal covering all decisions, people argue a bit, proposal gets edited.

[House]

I'm all for cracking on mechanics, but at the same time it makes it easy for scum to hide by appearing to be helpful without actually contributing anything to the town.

I've had a long day at work today so I'm going to take this evening to relax, but I'll be figuring out some reads tomorrow. I hope there's more alignment discussion and less mechanics/role discussion by then.

Good night, all.

[Infinity 324]

ND was a nothing the last time I played with scum!him so it looks good for him so far

[mastina]

VOTE: faer

Momra, I <3 you but I think you might be scum here </3

Nyeh!

You, however, are town. <3

Mastina, your accuracy rate for reading me is currently 1 to like 5, you can go for 2 out of 6! <3

Eh I'm not

sure

you're town, but I do lean town on the toucan here, so.

Vote: Momrangal

(Still not using vote tags for good reason, townreads here are easier than good scumreads.)
Flea the Magician
Dunnstral
Bingle

Taly
House
cyrus62
Almost50

Dwlee99

NDMath
T3

Infinity 324

Momrangal

Hereabouts.

[Infinity 324]

VOTE: A50 I have a lot of townreads. I'm gonna vote someone who's not

[mastina]

Fabricated a read on a naked RVS votw.

Oh is this in reference to your vote on me?

I buy that.

(Which is to say, T3's vote on me is a fabricated read on my naked rvs post. This is far from T3's first game with me.)

Fabricated a read on a naked RVS votw.

Mastina does this

As town or as scum?

You should already know the answer to this given this was my first post post-alignment in Townstumps. A game you were in.

[mastina]

VOTE: mastina
You know what you did.

I actually don't?

T3 is towny I think

Call it OMGUS if you'd like, but I don't see it.

I see efforts to

appear as

town--but looking at them I don't actually

see

town.

[Infinity 324]

see efforts to appear as town--but looking at them I don't actually see town.

I actually see no efforts to appear town, which is actually part of why I find him towny. He gives me similar vibes to where I played with town!him before, and said that the less he explains himself the more likely he is to be town.

[cyrus62]

3 scum . Scum want to appear to be town . Think I may lay low for a bit and let people post. Maybe bait a trap or two.

[cyrus62]

VOTE: faer

Momra, I <3 you but I think you might be scum here </3

Nyeh!

You, however, are town. <3

Mastina, your accuracy rate for reading me is currently 1 to like 5, you can go for 2 out of 6! <3

Eh I'm not

sure

you're town, but I do lean town on the toucan here, so.

Vote: Momrangal

(Still not using vote tags for good reason, townreads here are easier than good scumreads.)
Flea the Magician
Dunnstral
Bingle

Taly
House
cyrus62
Almost50

Dwlee99

NDMath
T3

Infinity 324

Momrangal

Hereabouts.

is there a reason you post your reads the way

[mastina]

is there a reason you post your reads the way

Helps me process my reads for myself.

The way my mind works, I can have a vague idea of "this player I see as town", "this player I see as scum", "this player I see as null", etc., but I don't have a good way in my mind of really seeing how town or how scum someone is naturally.

By forcing it into a readslist, by comparing names to other names, I can get different shades of town, scum, null, etc. I can separate people who I might've both called 'null' into 'higher null' and 'lower null' for instance, to basically sort my thoughts, refine them, make them better, etc.

Readslists are more for my benefit than they are for the benefit of others.

However, the fact that my readslists let others see into my mind, how I am sorting, see my progression, see who I am thinking belongs where in the town to scum spectrum, is certainly a bonus.

[cyrus62]

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[cyrus62]

Lol I typed that wrong.