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[Smoke and Mirrors]

hmm, i did think of the possibility of me being rbed was to deny results, but then i thought scum wouldn't no kill with both me and smoke still alive

is this like mastinas scum game..?

No, I bet the game on Mastina!town.

[Smoke and Mirrors]

I just realized there are worlds where scum!S&M can buy both ADs, thirdscum can be just about anyone and they can still afford 200 for tracker, then S&M can announce the tracker result and appear to be town that bought 1-shot AD and Tracker. I dont think this happened, but it could have. So I realize voting based on bids doesnt really make sense. Any scum could be mixing and matching claims to make things appear differently to town trying to solve by numbers.

this is an outright lie


1-shot Auction Detective 300
2-shot Auction Detective 450
Tracker is 200

total is 950

scum start with 800 so its impossible for me to buy both ADs and Tracker

VOTE: Kyouko

@mod, if Kyouku visited Marci, would we have gotten the same result?

[Smoke and Mirrors]

OK so I think the mastina scum deliberately no-killing theory doesn't hold up. A bit too risky and I don't think mastina needed to take the risk.

So mastina town.
Ssbm I think is likely town because daykill has been pushed back and now is unavailable to scum, and buying hitman openly D1 needed him for future auctions.
Ssbm not being killed suggests to me scum may have been coin/PR hunting and know ssbm isn't a threat on either front.

If ssbm is town his push towards VFP D1 wasn't scum trying to deflect from Kitty. So VFP scum is more possible.

I think it was easy for marci if scum to town read me to get creds for a town flip, but I don't think it's as likely as marci town.

S&M everyone seems sure is town because of Kitty wagon.

VFP, Something_Smart, Gamma.
I can see how VFP scum would want me around as a future mis elim.

I think if VFP is scum it proves his D2 wagon was town as I think scum bussing D2 is too risky for them, auction wise. Conversely VFP town helps narrow down who's scum. (Per ssbm's count, the E-1 wagon on VFP day 2 had cyrus, distance, S&M, mastina, marcistar)

I think there's at most one scum among {VFP, S&M, mastina, marcistar}. Which leaves at least one among {ssbm, Something_Smart, Gamma}

So VFP isn't scum I think Something_Smart and Gamma are. And if VFP is scum I think one or the other of them is.

We are definitely not scum here.

[Smoke and Mirrors]

votecount 4.3

Gamma Emerald (0)
mastina (0)
Smoke and Mirrors (0)
ssbm_Kyouko (1) - VFP
Something_Smart (2) ssbm_Kyouko - Marcistar
imaginality (1) - Gamma Emerald
marcistar (0)
VFP (2) - mastina - smoke and mirrors

not voting (2) - Everyone else

day 4 ends in (expired on 2021-07-07 05:21:30)

auction

the auctioned abilities are :

2-shot Tracker the top bid at mid point is 200

1-shot Neighborizer the top bid at mid point is 0

2-shot Neighborizer the top bid at mid point is 0

2-shot Hitman the top bid at mid point is 0

Sorry guys I haven’t been online, that was Pooky posting, if you hadn’t guessed.

I’m super overgamed af rn. :/

[Smoke and Mirrors]

yeah I think S_S is probably town here
VOTE: VFP
I wanna know what nancy is thinking in all this but atp this is fine because as I said, VFP's CB vote was the one that bothers me the most

Idk but I still think Mastina, you and SS are town but having doubts again on VFP. I know we get a no resuts on Kyouku but if he tracked jk’d Marci, would that have nullified our inno?

Idk, anymore.

I think Marci’s town but I suppose it’s possible that no kill could have happened if she’s the onr who made it? Probably tinfoiling though, because I still think she’s town.

[Smoke and Mirrors]

Actually I feel quite strongly that scum bought 2-shot AD and as I wrote it out, only mastina and marci can afford that.

I'll let you in on a secret: the $200 mid-day bid on tracker? That's me.

(You'd think the fact that I've been bidding $200 on items each day would be a dead giveaway that the 200 on tracker was me. Just because I ended up bidding more than 200 on the jailkeeper doesn't mean I'm not going to keep bidding 200 on things.)

I believe you but then how did we get it? We didn’t expect to because we couldn’t bid anymore than that because we already spent 300 on 1 shot AD.

[Gypyx]

votecount 4.4

Gamma Emerald (2) ssbm_Kyouko - Imaginality
mastina (1)
Smoke and Mirrors (0)
ssbm_Kyouko (2) - VFP - smoke and mirrors
Something_Smart (0)
imaginality (0)
marcistar (0)
VFP (3) - mastina - Marcistar - Gamma Emerald

not voting (1) - Everyone else

day 4 ends in (expired on 2021-07-07 05:21:30)

auction

the auctioned abilities are :

2-shot Tracker the top bid at mid point is 200

1-shot Neighborizer the top bid at mid point is 0

2-shot Neighborizer the top bid at mid point is 0

2-shot Hitman the top bid at mid point is 0

[Gypyx]

I just realized there are worlds where scum!S&M can buy both ADs, thirdscum can be just about anyone and they can still afford 200 for tracker, then S&M can announce the tracker result and appear to be town that bought 1-shot AD and Tracker. I dont think this happened, but it could have. So I realize voting based on bids doesnt really make sense. Any scum could be mixing and matching claims to make things appear differently to town trying to solve by numbers.

this is an outright lie


1-shot Auction Detective 300
2-shot Auction Detective 450
Tracker is 200

total is 950

scum start with 800 so its impossible for me to buy both ADs and Tracker

VOTE: Kyouko

@mod, if Kyouku visited Marci, would we have gotten the same result?

not sure i get the question, so could you clarify by PM?

[Gypyx]

VFP has been executed, he was...

Spoiler:

Vanilla Townie

Night 4 starts now and ends in (expired on 2021-07-09 06:12:30)

[Gypyx]

the bids have been won for the following amount

2-shot Tracker - 200

1-shot Neighborizer - 90

2-shot Neighborizer - 0

2-shot Hitman - 301

[Gypyx]

Night 4 has ended...

mastina has died, she was a

Vanilla Townie

[Gypyx]

votecount 5.0

Gamma Emerald (0)
Smoke and Mirrors (0)
ssbm_Kyouko (0)
Something_Smart (0)
imaginality (0)
marcistar (0)

not voting (6) - Everyone

day 5 ends in (expired on 2021-07-12 09:42:30)

[Something_Smart]

Gamma visited mastina.

VOTE: Gamma

[imaginality]

SS are you claiming that as a tracker result or a watcher result?

[Something_Smart]

It's a watcher result. Not saying whether anyone else visited her, because there's no reason to out that information-- Gamma shouldn't be able to visit at all if town.

[marcistar]

VOTE: gamma emerald
i do think something_smarts telling the truth

[Gamma Emerald]

That’s definitely fake
But who’s the partner

[marcistar]

That’s definitely fake
But who’s the partner

if ur town here, can u pls make a case against them? ^.^ it isnt convincing rn

ssbm_kyouko

whatd u attempt to bid on yesterday (if u attempted at all)?

[Smoke and Mirrors]

I believe SS and Gamma bid 499 on GF correct?

If town, he wouldn’t have any money for a visit. I guess CB was right on Alisae and “who’s the partner?” just sounds like you’re guilty. :/

VOTE: Gamma

You bid 499 on GF hoping town would blow their wad on it.

My obvious guess is probably Kyouku.

Unless you and Imaginality are doing some kind of bizarro scum theatre?

[Smoke and Mirrors]

That’s definitely fake
But who’s the partner

Why does SS lie? You flip town, he’s next and no bus drivers or redirectors were available to bid on.

[marcistar]

That’s definitely fake
But who’s the partner

Why does SS lie? You flip town, he’s next and no bus drivers or redirectors were available to bid on.

when does game end? is it when scum = town?

[Smoke and Mirrors]

That’s definitely fake
But who’s the partner

Why does SS lie? You flip town, he’s next and no bus drivers or redirectors were available to bid on.

when does game end? is it when scum = town?

That’s usually the case, parity.

[Smoke and Mirrors]

The Setup

The Basics

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This will be a 10:3 Open Setup with every player starting as a Vanilla.

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Mafia have daytalk and are allowed to use discord provided they all agree on it.

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Mafia have a factional ability to hide the price sold for an item that can be used once per day phase either for the midday or day end update.

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Town players will begin the game with a wallet of 500Ð and Mafia players will receive 800Ð.

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Money cannot be transferred.

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Players may use multiple abilities a night however can only use one shot of each ability maximum.

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Players will flip with their alignment but not the roles they've obtained.

Auctions

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Four limited shot roles from the pool of twenty available are selected randomly every day and auctioned off.

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Bids are made inside your personal PT during the day phase and the player with the highest bid at day end will receive that role.

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You may only bid the money remaining inside your wallet, you may increase a bid on an item but cannot use that money elsewhere.

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You must outbid the current highest bidder to win the item. Losing bids are refunded at day end.

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The winner of each auctioned item are not revealed publicly, just the bid itself.

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There will be a mid day update 1 day into the day phase where the highest bid per item are revealed but not the winner again.

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Items auctioned are removed from the potential list the following day.

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Bids will no longer be eligible within the last 10 minutes of each day phase. Executed players can win an auctioned item.

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Auctions will no longer take place after day four.

Marketplace Owner

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Players will vote for a Marketplace Owner on top of the vote to execute in the thread during day one.

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The player with the most votes at deadline will be elected the Marketplace Owner.

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In the event of a tied vote upon deadline, the winner will be randomized.

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The elected player privately submits an order to increase the odds of four items being up for auction the following day phase by 400%.

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The elected player has this ability every night phase.

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The elected player must designate a replacement in case they die, this is revealed publicly upon their death.

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Marketplace Owners are no longer needed after day four.

Role PMs

Spoiler: Town PM

Vanilla townie

Welcome ! You are a

Vanilla Townie

You have no power other than your voice and your vote

You win if the town survives to see all of the threats to them dead, you may find the game thread here

your private topic is here

Spoiler: Scum PM

Mafia Goon

Welcome ! You are a

Mafia Goon

You are a member of the Mafia, along with [PLAYER] and [PLAYER], you may talk to them here at any time, and you can also perform the factional nightkill

You also posess a factional ability to to hide the price sold for an item, this can be used once per day phase for either the mid day or day end update.

You win if the mafia survives to see all of the threats to them dead, or nothing can prevent this from happening, you may find the game thread here

your private topic is here

Spoiler: Marketplace Owner PM

marketplace owner

You are now the Marketplace Owner!

Congratulations! You are have either been elected or assigned the role of Marketplace Owner.
You have the ability to select up to 4 items every night phase to increase the odds of it being up for auction the following day phase by 400%. Please do this by bolding

Enhance: Ability Name

for each item you choose.
You must also select who you wish to have this role assigned to in the event of your demise, you are able to have this person changed at any time up until your death via bolding

Assign: PlayerName

inside your PT.

[marcistar]

That’s usually the case, parity.

wouldnt we hit that if its a miselim + a successful nk?

[Smoke and Mirrors]

Actually, it looks like I’m wrong. Apparently scum has the kill all of the townies - one way or the other. I was telling Pooky in discord, I don’t think we win this, now I actually have hope.