Newbie 2071: The Sandwich Debate - End!

JamesTheNames · Post Post #775 (ISO) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 12:05 am

In post 774, VFP wrote:I'm not talking about how it looks though.

Hence why I asked about it.

T3 · Post Post #776 (ISO) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 12:27 am

VFP literally has not explained the meta case on me.

T3 · Post Post #777 (ISO) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 12:39 am

I hardclaim VT. I've been hard crumbing doctor to James and Grandpa this entire time to see if I could bait the nightkill. If I survived, either the setup is 2 goons or they are both town. Grandpa acknowledged it. There is literally no way James didn't notice the crumb. I must have crumbed it 5+ times. James and VFP literally have so much scum equity.

VFP · Post Post #778 (ISO) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 12:53 am

In post 776, T3 wrote:VFP literally has not explained the meta case on me.

Ive explained on par to how I usually do. I find it odd that this is the issue you have.

T3 · Post Post #779 (ISO) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 12:56 am

In post 778, VFP wrote:
In post 776, T3 wrote:VFP literally has not explained the meta case on me.
Ive explained on par to how I usually do. I find it odd that this is the issue you have.

Also there's that you're dead wrong, which you usually aren't.

JamesTheNames · Post Post #780 (ISO) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 1:21 am

In post 777, T3 wrote:I hardclaim VT. I've been hard crumbing doctor to James and Grandpa this entire time to see if I could bait the nightkill. If I survived, either the setup is 2 goons or they are both town. Grandpa acknowledged it. There is literally no way James didn't notice the crumb. I must have crumbed it 5+ times. James and VFP literally have so much scum equity.

Fake crumbing is obvious T3.
251, 319, 359, 445, 467. For those wondering.
Why would you bread crumb and get 2 people who (if you were doctor) would not know your role in particular to read it. The more you did it the more other people would notice. I don't buy this in the slightest.
You were using it to fake claim doctor at a later point in the game, but you didn't expect to be pressured to this extent, so you now have to use some bogus excuse to try and get out of it. Not to mention, why T3 would a scum pair both be the ones hard pushing a certain hammer? You aren't going to flip green but if you did, me and VFP would both luck suspicious, versus a normal shove, where only one of us would be suspicious. You aren't making any sense.

In post 722, T3 wrote:Grandpa and James I will not disclose.

Withholding a read like this is scummy. Why're you hiding it? If you thought we were Power Roles you'd just say town read. If you thought we were scum you'd say we were scum reads. If you thought we were Null you'd say we were Null. This is nonsense. You don't have a read on either of us. The only reason would be because you're hiding and planning something in advance. The only reason you'd do this is as a Power Role or as Scum. You've hardclaimed you aren't Doctor. You're Scum.

From what T3 just tried to do I'm now 90% sure we're in Column A or C, either Row 1 or row 2. As such any Power Roles out there beware there is very likely a roleblocker.

I'm not moving my vote off of T3, he is scum.

JamesTheNames · Post Post #781 (ISO) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 1:22 am

Mo, Clasko, and Lady LambdaDelta are the only 3 of whom aren't voting T3 nor VFP.

T3 · Post Post #782 (ISO) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 1:31 am

First, you and Grandpa would be the only ones who would notice the crumb because it was the exact same crumb Grandpa used in 2070. If I died then the other person would know. If scum realize this and don't kill me, then I am kept alive as basically cleared and scum potentially waste their roleblock. TSTBS doesn't apply here. I have my seperate reasons for scumreading both of you. No, withholding a read isn't scummy. I am crumbing doctor to both of you and what I did requires both of you to survive.Yes, I was hiding and planning in advance. I was planning to DIE.

T3 · Post Post #783 (ISO) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 1:35 am

There is literally no scum motivation behind this play. VFP is completely ignoring the crumb and my explanation behind it. Unless this is some ridiculous scenario when VFP is completrly wrong about mymeta for unknkown reason and you genuinely thought it wasn't crumb you're scum.

Fake crumbing pr is something I as town and you should know that.

T3 · Post Post #784 (ISO) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 1:45 am

Also, if I'm scum fake crumbing doctor for later isn't one crumb that I can refer to enough? I was trying to make it really, really obvious to you/Grandpa.

VFP · Post Post #785 (ISO) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 1:46 am

It has more merit if you're not the one using it as a defence to why I should town read you.

T3 · Post Post #786 (ISO) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 1:49 am

If you don't explain in detail why you scumread me then yes, I think this is the closest thing that has merit.

VFP · Post Post #787 (ISO) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 1:50 am

The thing is T3, you plausibly are town here.
But it's too late in the day for me to start a fresh wagon on someone, considering I don't like any of the other wagons.

VFP · Post Post #788 (ISO) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 1:51 am

In post 786, T3 wrote:If you don't explain in detail why you scumread me then yes, I think this is the closest thing that has merit.

When do I explain in detail though?

T3 · Post Post #789 (ISO) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 1:54 am

In post 788, VFP wrote:
In post 786, T3 wrote:If you don't explain in detail why you scumread me then yes, I think this is the closest thing that has merit.
When do I explain in detail though?

You didn't. I don't think you've ever been this wrong about me so unless my playstyle has changed a lot (which, granted, I have been posting a lot more) I think you/James is the team.

Clasko · Post Post #790 (ISO) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 1:55 am

In post 781, JamesTheNames wrote:Mo, Clasko, and Lady LambdaDelta are the only 3 of whom aren't voting T3 nor VFP.

In post 772, VFP wrote:LLD, Clarke, and Grampa... your votes / not votes are just a waste.

Clarkso isn't looking good either.

I like the part where my name is represented three different ways.

I've even been called Cleo before...

Anyway Bulge-slot elim obviously isn't happening so:

UNVOTE:

Gonna read back on some posts, reply to cows most likely, see where I am with things.

VFP · Post Post #791 (ISO) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 1:56 am

In post 789, T3 wrote:
In post 788, VFP wrote:
In post 786, T3 wrote:If you don't explain in detail why you scumread me then yes, I think this is the closest thing that has merit.
When do I explain in detail though?
You didn't. I don't think you've ever been this wrong about me so unless my playstyle has changed a lot (which, granted, I have been posting a lot more) I think you/James is the team.

Can James still be scum if I'm not?

T3 · Post Post #792 (ISO) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 2:00 am

In post 791, VFP wrote:
In post 789, T3 wrote:
In post 788, VFP wrote:
In post 786, T3 wrote:If you don't explain in detail why you scumread me then yes, I think this is the closest thing that has merit.
When do I explain in detail though?
You didn't. I don't think you've ever been this wrong about me so unless my playstyle has changed a lot (which, granted, I have been posting a lot more) I think you/James is the team.
Can James still be scum if I'm not?

Probably, for completely ignoring the doctor thing and trying to push me. I'm not sure who he would be scum with.

T3 · Post Post #793 (ISO) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 3:02 am

VOTE: James
Like... I guess looking back on this my playstyle has definitely changed as in that I'm posting a lot more. I find it implausible that town James didn't even take into account meta or the crumb when pushing me.

JamesTheNames · Post Post #794 (ISO) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 3:04 am

In post 793, T3 wrote: I find it implausible that town James didn't even take into account meta

JamesTheNames · Post Post #795 (ISO) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 3:06 am

There are at least 5 instances where I've explained my disdain for meta.

JamesTheNames · Post Post #796 (ISO) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 3:06 am

- In this game alone.

T3 · Post Post #797 (ISO) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 3:07 am

Either you're pr who directly contradicts doctor, or you're scum.

JamesTheNames · Post Post #798 (ISO) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 3:15 am

In post 797, T3 wrote:Either you're pr who directly contradicts doctor, or you're scum.

Why would a doctor make crumbing obvious?

JamesTheNames · Post Post #799 (ISO) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 3:17 am

In post 797, T3 wrote:Either you're pr who directly contradicts doctor, or you're scum.

In post 40, JamesTheNames wrote:On a serious note though, I'm a Vanilla Townie, if I redact it later and claim a Power Role feel free to hammer me. Thank you.