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Post Post #3125 (ISO) » Sun Jul 18, 2021 2:13 pm

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but lemme have a chance to do a deep re-read first plz im tired as shit rn and we have a week to do this
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Post Post #3126 (ISO) » Sun Jul 18, 2021 2:14 pm

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Chara bellow Flea? why? @Pooky
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Post Post #3127 (ISO) » Sun Jul 18, 2021 2:15 pm

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If I had to guess I would throw out clidd/Chara as the team, YES pooky

Reason being... Flea's play is not making even a slight attempt to seem towny or help us in any way

I'm not sure I believe Chara's entrance to today or not

Clidd i admittedly just end up with because im out of options

When you're doing your reread, pay attention to the Robert elimination day and consider if Ydrasse could interact with him both A.) knowing his alignment (being informed) and B.) technically knowing its suboptimal to kill him
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Post Post #3128 (ISO) » Sun Jul 18, 2021 2:15 pm

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in terms of endgame scum play it's Chara > Infinity > Flea.

I would never let Infinity leave before Flea.
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Post Post #3129 (ISO) » Sun Jul 18, 2021 2:16 pm

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In post 3127, Morning Tweet wrote:When you're doing your reread, pay attention to the Robert elimination day and consider if Ydrasse could interact with him both A.) knowing his alignment (being informed) and B.) technically knowing its suboptimal to kill him
it doesn't matter what order the townies die in. what matters if how the mafia leave the game.

letting a townie out early in order to get towncred for endgame scum later is fine as a strategic play and probly actually pretty damn good
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Post Post #3130 (ISO) » Sun Jul 18, 2021 2:17 pm

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everything done in this game is to get the 2 endgame scum out of the game.

No sacrifice is too great to set it up for later.

Nobody on the scum team cares whether they win by 2 or 3 or 4 or 1. As long as they WIN
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Post Post #3131 (ISO) » Sun Jul 18, 2021 2:18 pm

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cuz I imagine the first conversation the scum team has is, "who do we want to exit first 2 and who do we want to endgame exit" and I can't see Infinity saying to Flea, hey im going to act scummy as fk and you carry the endgame exit.
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Post Post #3132 (ISO) » Sun Jul 18, 2021 2:19 pm

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PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:in terms of endgame scum play it's Chara > Infinity > Flea.

I would never let Infinity leave before Flea.
I think that's prolly more subjective and also maybe Infy really wasn't feeling it and that wasn't a lie. Dunno.

Either way I dont think Flea's play fits scum

I implore Amy and Flea to stop giving a damn about Yin. He has definitely lied at least one time (3 factions). He has killed our conf town player. His eyes are red (lol). Yang on the other hand seems to have joined us???? Please stop caring about Yin.
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In post 3127, Morning Tweet wrote:When you're doing your reread, pay attention to the Robert elimination day and consider if Ydrasse could interact with him both A.) knowing his alignment (being informed) and B.) technically knowing its suboptimal to kill him
it doesn't matter what order the townies die in. what matters if how the mafia leave the game.

letting a townie out early in order to get towncred for endgame scum later is fine as a strategic play and probly actually pretty damn good
Yeah but the way Ydrasse interacted with Robert doesn't strike me as informed

But yes, scum could acceptably let some townies go at the beginning if it seems helpful to them

ill reread when i get my classes that are due in like 2 hours done maybe
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Post Post #3133 (ISO) » Sun Jul 18, 2021 2:20 pm

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really?

i don't think that infinity enjoys playing scum a lot and if that's the case she might've just bit the bullet for scum early on
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Post Post #3134 (ISO) » Sun Jul 18, 2021 2:21 pm

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tweetie can you just pretend you replaced into this game and do that super tweet carry thing you do pls pls pls thxxxxxx <3
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Post Post #3135 (ISO) » Sun Jul 18, 2021 2:21 pm

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In post 3133, Ydrasse wrote:really?

i don't think that infinity enjoys playing scum a lot and if that's the case she might've just bit the bullet for scum early on
yea I don't think she does either but I've seen infinity win at endgame and I've literally never seen Flea scum avoid getting eliminated.
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Post Post #3136 (ISO) » Sun Jul 18, 2021 2:23 pm

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my perception is that flea has the wim to go to endgame over infinity especially in a setup where things are wacking having had to beat down flea in royalty

i think that infinity getting wagoned often and early in games probably didnt hurt her going down fast either
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Post Post #3137 (ISO) » Sun Jul 18, 2021 2:23 pm

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remember the two scum they pick for endgame have to BOTH exit for the scum team to win so they should be picking the two people they are most confident in to carry the game.

like unless this is some 10k IQ reverse psychology where flea doesnt even pretend to be townie knowing that flea has to exit to let the scum team win is kind of just wild to me
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Post Post #3138 (ISO) » Sun Jul 18, 2021 2:24 pm

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yeah uh

my tinfoil on flea probably doesnt hold weight or matter but i feel like im pointing at the whiteboard going "fae is ACTING SO STRANGE BECAUSE NO ONE WOULD EXPECT IT WITH THE TEAM FAE HAD"
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Post Post #3139 (ISO) » Sun Jul 18, 2021 2:34 pm

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hammer testing? i love hammer testing where do i sign up

also i just thought it was funny how, like 2 days ago, i play a townhunting setup and i'm shit at it, and i think "ok that was bad, i'm not playing townhunting bullshit again"

and then the madlad hectic does this

ok out for real now how is it already 3:30am
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Post Post #3140 (ISO) » Sun Jul 18, 2021 2:41 pm

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actually i'm not

re infinity/flea - i'm not sure we can assume that everything in this game went to scum's plan? like, in an infinity/flea world, how do you know that they planned for infy to go down but not flea? if memory serves me (it may not), infinity was actually trying early game, and i vaguely remember flea being... weirdly absent amd mostly talking mech? (granted idk faer usual townplay to frain of salt etc) i don't think it's impossible to imagine them agreeing that flea falls first, but then the thread just going after infinity. even associate-wise, flea's play around infinity was really ~weird (sitting on my wagon, then sitting on nakata's), while her associates with nakata seem like more straightforward distancing.

this is not to say i think fae is scum, i'm still as lost on that slot as ever, but putting it out there.
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Post Post #3141 (ISO) » Sun Jul 18, 2021 2:53 pm

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like here's the thing

if scum wanted to keep robert in this game,

all they have to do is have Nakata or whoever is the most scumread person press "detonate" as soon as D2 opens

Ircher ends up in 10 million pieces and we flashwagon the culprit right away.

Robert would still be here.

But they didn't do that.

Robert is gone, hence the scumbags wanted him gone.
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Post Post #3142 (ISO) » Sun Jul 18, 2021 2:56 pm

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Lol tbh i think scum missed that. i think that would have been more optimal for them

Why do you think they would want Robert not gone?
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Post Post #3143 (ISO) » Sun Jul 18, 2021 2:57 pm

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In post 3142, Morning Tweet wrote:Lol tbh i think scum missed that. i think that would have been more optimal for them

Why do you think they would want Robert gone?
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Post Post #3144 (ISO) » Sun Jul 18, 2021 3:05 pm

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mb he would've been an inconvenient voice for them to have around

maybe they thought pushing him would give them towncred

I dunno what their motives are but I'm gonna go over everything
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Post Post #3145 (ISO) » Sun Jul 18, 2021 4:01 pm

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I feel like if Ydrasse or Tanner are scum they keep Robert alive cause thats an EASY person they can advocate for being left behind rn.

It's all WIFOM really, yeah you could say that they did it for towncred and that exact reason though. I'm occams razoring them as town cause it's simpler

Okay. no more commenting from me til i reread the important bits
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Post Post #3146 (ISO) » Sun Jul 18, 2021 4:40 pm

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The endless day is over at last. But the acrid smell still burns in the man's nostrils. The heat hasn't left, it just has a new shape.

"You didn't need me at all, did you? Thats what you wanted to say." He spits out the words, knowing he won't get an answer. The show goes on and he's left standing on an empty stage.

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Post Post #3147 (ISO) » Sun Jul 18, 2021 5:25 pm

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Ircher knows Yin's Mario Party strategies and had to die
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Post Post #3148 (ISO) » Sun Jul 18, 2021 5:31 pm

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In post 3071, Amy Dunne wrote:
Hectic, have you been lying to us about Yin and Yang being NPAs and are they actually in fact stumps?
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Post Post #3149 (ISO) » Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:08 pm

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Wait

Yang tried to tell us that Infinity was town, Yang tried to get us to kill Tanner.....

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