Mini Normal 2223 | Town Wins!

[ManateeDude]

math what do u think abt what i had 2 say regarding omo/an omo lim

[ssbm_Kyouko]

I'm getting paranoid about my read on Marci. Like on one hand, I'm starting to doubt it after her defense because it was pretty reasonable, and looking through her ISO all of what she said checks out. And the wagon on her built surprisingly quickly before I could even make a full scum case, which feels off. But on the other hand, she's openly admitting to using scum tactics, she isn't pushing her biggest scum read, and I get a sense she's doing her homework to make sure everything she says checks out, which kinda conflicts with her overall vibe and demeanor that she's putting across. Like, using a lot of emojis and hearts, but then making passive aggressive statements.

"blatant distancing" i started distancing with manatee after i suddenly didnt like their vote, wow really a big shock how i dont wanna continue buddying someone i dont agree with anymore
but if yall think that distancing can only come from scum honey u got a big storm coming for ya <3

This specifically pinged me a lot. There's a lot of tonal dissonance in her posts but this is stands out the most to me.

UNVOTE:

please lets find a viable counterwagon I dont want marci anymore after that wallpost

Bless your beautiful souls VOTE: manatee

[MathBlade]

Owo is a vanity wagon. Much as I would love their elim they aren’t for today.

Koba’s consistency is bad as either alignment and the best way to read them is under pressure and when they are under pressure they get yelly and screamy. While Owo is my top wagon I would love to elim best not today unfortunately because if we try odds are we no elim.

[ManateeDude]

VOTE: marci

im not going today and i will make that 100% true if need be

[ManateeDude]

i dont even like marci lim but taking me out is much much worse for game

[ManateeDude]

i can be friendly if need be

[MathBlade]

Civ break is over bbs

[ManateeDude]

@kyouko i trust your judgement here, so give me a little longer to be friendly and it'll do both of us a lot of favours

[marcistar]

It sounds like Roden’s point is more you’re not keeping an accurate memory of what you said so the responses feel constructed and less jovial than the rest of your posts and I get that vibe too.

ahhh thats what he meant?
well im just built diff

i do see where yall can see it. not sure if i can fight that much cuz its prob truly, but i was trying to be more serious in those posts

i dont even like marci lim but taking me out is much much worse for game

sister??? i- i- sister r u okay???? 946 sister???

[Roden]

I feel like I've either mind melded with Math or I'm getting manipulated hard. I'm super uneasy that we're agreeing on a

lot

of things now, even stuff I haven't directly said. Idk how to describe the potential technique here entirely, but I feel like he's done something where he tried to break me down with suspicion and pressure, then raise me up by slowly town reading me and agreeing with a lot of things I've said. And there were a few things earlier that I brought up to him that he never responded to and let get buried. With all the conversation leading he's done, he could be power wolfing. I'm also just really susceptible to pocketing, Jake got me way too easily in our last Mini Normal and on Day 1 too.

Or, we just naturally clicked after a rough start and he's just really strong as town. And I hate being paranoid of someone who seems to be on my side because then I feel bad. He seems more trustworthy than OMO too and I've been getting a strong feeling there's one scum between them due to their interactions.

This is real fucking rough but I'd rather put my trust in Math Day 1 regardless. I ultimately don't have a reason to want him gone over OMO especially when OMO does look scummier, especially with Manatee's case on them which I thought was pretty compelling. I understand this is just kind of a ramble, but I wanted to put it out here since I'm finding myself stuck between the two of them and trying to figure out who to trust. Especially with OMO voting Manatee and Math voting Marci, this could actually be between town and scum today with these wagons.

[ManateeDude]

i dont think i implied i liked eliminating u in that podt just that it gave us stuff 2 work with

[ManateeDude]

i dont think i implied i liked eliminating u in that podt just that it gave us stuff 2 work with

@marci btw

[ssbm_Kyouko]

UNVOTE: I don't even know with this game anymore. Theres a hole in my reads somewhere.
I guess I could do max
VOTE: max

Pedit: Roden I think omo was voting Marci while she was he wagon and the same post you thought was townie from Marci, he thought too. So did I.

[Roden]

UNVOTE: I don't even know with this game anymore. Theres a hole in my reads somewhere.
I guess I could do max
VOTE: max

Pedit: Roden I think omo was voting Marci while she was he wagon and the same post you thought was townie from Marci, he thought too. So did I.

Yeah that's what's getting me here. What do you think of OMO and Math? Same with Marci and Manatee? You're voting Max but are you against a Manatee vote?

[marcistar]

i dont think i implied i liked eliminating u in that podt just that it gave us stuff 2 work with

wait im lowkey confused

marci not acting like a total scumfuck in response to votes is good but

idk if its good enough for me

marci even if town

gives us stuff to work with postflip bc theyve been interacting a lot more as of late.

not sure what omos getting at w the "complex thoughts" in regards bc it kind of just reads as a way to get off the wagon w justification which town shouldn't need to do. if marci is scum here her "complex thoughts" hold value primarily post-flip

can u explain what u meant here then..?

[Roden]

Ok yeah that looks bad on Manatee.

[ManateeDude]

i guess its the difference between thinking an elim could be valuable and liking it. my perspective pretty quickly changed between the two posts esp given the fact i became a target during that time

[ManateeDude]

u can clearly see i isoed omo inbtwn those two points so

"not enough to unvote" and "would prefer other person ive cased" is the perspective switch

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Fuck it what about this iso?
Desperately flocking to the prevailing wagons seemingly for no reason, assuming they're both town, 962 is the perfect time to make that post as scum. You get the towncred but also the prevailing wagons are TvT and it's safe to do so.

No content. Flip-flops onto town wagons without reason. Tries to scoop up low-hanging towncred. Yeet

VOTE: DrippingGoofball

[ssbm_Kyouko]

I summon the powers of roden, omo, manatee, and Marci to turboelim this scumbag. It's partner can bus it with the 6th vote and not_mafia can hammer for the lulz

[ManateeDude]

sold.

VOTE: DGB

[ssbm_Kyouko]

UNVOTE: I don't even know with this game anymore. Theres a hole in my reads somewhere.
I guess I could do max
VOTE: max

Pedit: Roden I think omo was voting Marci while she was he wagon and the same post you thought was townie from Marci, he thought too. So did I.

Yeah that's what's getting me here. What do you think of OMO and Math? Same with Marci and Manatee? You're voting Max but are you against a Manatee vote?

Omo and you are my strongest TRs.
Mathblade I think has felt townie, and saudade was firmly town for me.

Marci and manatee I thought there was buddying and distancing involved, but aside from.her wasted.vote and that I dont really have reason to SR her. And I think I can read her tone is town. I identify with her posting and I know the feelings she's posting are real. Manatee will sort out, not feeling good about eliminating her today either. Both of these wagons were too easy. Yes there is a block of voters that are somewhat in agreement, but there was no resistance, so I dont think either is scum right now.

I was kind of POEing onto max because I was feeling lost. I've reexamined the nullish slots though and I have an obvscum to serve up for dinner now.

[oʍo]

I feel like I've either mind melded with Math or I'm getting manipulated hard. I'm super uneasy that we're agreeing on a

lot

of things now, even stuff I haven't directly said. Idk how to describe the potential technique here entirely, but I feel like he's done something where he tried to break me down with suspicion and pressure, then raise me up by slowly town reading me and agreeing with a lot of things I've said. And there were a few things earlier that I brought up to him that he never responded to and let get buried. With all the conversation leading he's done, he could be power wolfing. I'm also just really susceptible to pocketing, Jake got me way too easily in our last Mini Normal and on Day 1 too.

Or, we just naturally clicked after a rough start and he's just really strong as town. And I hate being paranoid of someone who seems to be on my side because then I feel bad. He seems more trustworthy than OMO too and I've been getting a strong feeling there's one scum between them due to their interactions.

This is real fucking rough but I'd rather put my trust in Math Day 1 regardless. I ultimately don't have a reason to want him gone over OMO especially when OMO does look scummier, especially with Manatee's case on them which I thought was pretty compelling. I understand this is just kind of a ramble, but I wanted to put it out here since I'm finding myself stuck between the two of them and trying to figure out who to trust. Especially with OMO voting Manatee and Math voting Marci, this could actually be between town and scum today with these wagons.

I dismantled your wagon. Why am i scum from your pov?

[Roden]

I was damn near town locking DGB due to Looker, but that is a good point about DGB's posts. Last game I was with DGB I ended up tunneling them to the point I tried to Vig them, but they also played way differently in that game. They've been extremely inactive and not really trying to make any waves this time around, possibly just coasting on the town read Looker forged for them. Re-evaluating Looker again, I also remember thinking they were trying to look scummy on purpose. It made me think they were either too scummy to be scummy and maybe had a PR, or they were gambitting we would assume TSTBS. I should've had them null in my reads list tbh.

I think I'm actually fine with this wagon.

VOTE: DrippingGoofball

[Roden]

I feel like I've either mind melded with Math or I'm getting manipulated hard. I'm super uneasy that we're agreeing on a

lot

of things now, even stuff I haven't directly said. Idk how to describe the potential technique here entirely, but I feel like he's done something where he tried to break me down with suspicion and pressure, then raise me up by slowly town reading me and agreeing with a lot of things I've said. And there were a few things earlier that I brought up to him that he never responded to and let get buried. With all the conversation leading he's done, he could be power wolfing. I'm also just really susceptible to pocketing, Jake got me way too easily in our last Mini Normal and on Day 1 too.

Or, we just naturally clicked after a rough start and he's just really strong as town. And I hate being paranoid of someone who seems to be on my side because then I feel bad. He seems more trustworthy than OMO too and I've been getting a strong feeling there's one scum between them due to their interactions.

This is real fucking rough but I'd rather put my trust in Math Day 1 regardless. I ultimately don't have a reason to want him gone over OMO especially when OMO does look scummier, especially with Manatee's case on them which I thought was pretty compelling. I understand this is just kind of a ramble, but I wanted to put it out here since I'm finding myself stuck between the two of them and trying to figure out who to trust. Especially with OMO voting Manatee and Math voting Marci, this could actually be between town and scum today with these wagons.

I dismantled your wagon. Why am i scum from your pov?

Dismantling a wagon doesn't mean much and assumes I couldn't do it myself. Scum can easily do it for town cred, or at the very least trust points. I don't want you gone today though, and I don't have a scum case that comes out differently than what Manatee offered.