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DkKoba · Post Post #4225 (ISO) » Sat Jul 24, 2021 10:19 am

If you take out Gamma's claim, what real reason is there to townread them?

Also of note mech wise : there is most certainly a traitor in the midst because there is no scum doc if gamma were to be real. There has been no evidence of one, and the other is at best questionable of existence so I do not believe Gamma's claim on a level of mechplay. Also odd-night is strictly much more powerful than even night. Their claim ~could~ exist, but there is also room for it to not exist. Ergo I am not taking their claim at all as clearing esp since we already have 2 best friends + a strong role that literally gets a guaranteed town powered shot. A gunsmith on the scum side to find the combined babysitter vig feels potentially likely. fwiw <<<<<-

so anyone clearing gamma based on mechs is ignoring the other side of the argument as well as their play around titus which stood out to me as someone trying their best to at first save them while distancing them.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #4226 (ISO) » Sat Jul 24, 2021 10:29 am

Hey Koba if you have an invest role you should be claiming your results.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #4227 (ISO) » Sat Jul 24, 2021 10:31 am

VOTE: chaosomega
zzzzzzzzzzz

Dragon of the West · Post Post #4228 (ISO) » Sat Jul 24, 2021 10:33 am

In post 4225, DkKoba wrote:so anyone clearing gamma based on mechs is ignoring the other side of the argument as well as their play around titus which stood out to me as someone trying their best to at first save them while distancing them.

I don't think anyone's clearing gamma...they were almost limmed D4. But now that it's an odd day we're saying it doesn't make sense to lim them until tomorrow since they'll have an extra chance to investigate IF they're town

Dragon of the West · Post Post #4229 (ISO) » Sat Jul 24, 2021 10:34 am

In post 4224, DkKoba wrote:Don't care. I replaced in here as a favor to whatever alignment I rolled since its the endgame. I rolled town so I particularly don't care to appease people, especially since apparently my slot is fairly clear from interactions with scum!

Koba I'm telling you rn, if you're town it's worth you claiming

Dragon of the West · Post Post #4230 (ISO) » Sat Jul 24, 2021 10:36 am

In post 4149, Dwlee99 wrote:VOTE: Chaos

Dwlee temporarily unvote for me

Dragon of the West · Post Post #4231 (ISO) » Sat Jul 24, 2021 10:37 am

In post 4227, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: chaosomega
zzzzzzzzzzz

L-1

Dwlee99 · Post Post #4232 (ISO) » Sat Jul 24, 2021 10:38 am

UNVOTE:

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #4233 (ISO) » Sat Jul 24, 2021 11:00 am

In post 4225, DkKoba wrote:If you take out Gamma's claim, what real reason is there to townread them?

Also of note mech wise : there is most certainly a traitor in the midst because there is no scum doc if gamma were to be real. There has been no evidence of one, and the other is at best questionable of existence so I do not believe Gamma's claim on a level of mechplay. Also odd-night is strictly much more powerful than even night. Their claim ~could~ exist, but there is also room for it to not exist. Ergo I am not taking their claim at all as clearing esp since we already have 2 best friends + a strong role that literally gets a guaranteed town powered shot. A gunsmith on the scum side to find the combined babysitter vig feels potentially likely. fwiw <<<<<-

so anyone clearing gamma based on mechs is ignoring the other side of the argument as well as their play around titus which stood out to me as someone trying their best to at first save them while distancing them.

I explained my Titus/general d4 progression and to my knowledge you are ignoring it
so why should I really care about your feelings at all rn?

Dwlee99 · Post Post #4234 (ISO) » Sat Jul 24, 2021 11:01 am

Gunsmith doesn't help find traitor in a traitor game so why do you suspect gunsmith + traitor?

Dwlee99 · Post Post #4235 (ISO) » Sat Jul 24, 2021 11:02 am

I also don't get how Koba can't respond to my case or even acknowledge I'm speaking here.

Dragon of the West · Post Post #4236 (ISO) » Sat Jul 24, 2021 11:06 am

In post 4229, Dragon of the West wrote:
In post 4224, DkKoba wrote:Don't care. I replaced in here as a favor to whatever alignment I rolled since its the endgame. I rolled town so I particularly don't care to appease people, especially since apparently my slot is fairly clear from interactions with scum!
Koba I'm telling you rn, if you're town it's worth you claiming

Also, the scum jailkeeper flipped informed...so we don't know what scum know. The more info town has the better. Looking at past Gypyx games sometimes that scum informed role knows huuuuge chunks of the game setup. Just claim

DkKoba · Post Post #4237 (ISO) » Sat Jul 24, 2021 11:25 am

Babysitter Enabler flipped uninformed so prob just that so yea

DkKoba · Post Post #4238 (ISO) » Sat Jul 24, 2021 11:25 am

Enablers are usually informed - likely just shifted to imply different info.

Ich Troje · Post Post #4239 (ISO) » Sat Jul 24, 2021 11:37 am

In post 4234, Dwlee99 wrote:Gunsmith doesn't help find traitor in a traitor game so why do you suspect gunsmith + traitor?

I said I suspected a scum GS to be purely to find this powerful town role without giving scum a rolecop so its ONLY able to counter that.

DkKoba · Post Post #4240 (ISO) » Sat Jul 24, 2021 11:37 am

In post 4239, Ich Troje wrote:
In post 4234, Dwlee99 wrote:Gunsmith doesn't help find traitor in a traitor game so why do you suspect gunsmith + traitor?
I said I suspected a scum GS to be purely to find this powerful town role without giving scum a rolecop so its ONLY able to counter that.

lol this is me SORRY i have 10000 tabs open

DkKoba · Post Post #4241 (ISO) » Sat Jul 24, 2021 11:37 am

leaked 2 of my alts how amazing

Dragon of the West · Post Post #4242 (ISO) » Sat Jul 24, 2021 12:13 pm

In post 4237, DkKoba wrote:Babysitter Enabler flipped uninformed so prob just that so yea

In post 4238, DkKoba wrote:Enablers are usually informed - likely just shifted to imply different info.

What do you mean

DkKoba · Post Post #4243 (ISO) » Sat Jul 24, 2021 12:15 pm

In post 4242, Dragon of the West wrote:
In post 4237, DkKoba wrote:Babysitter Enabler flipped uninformed so prob just that so yea

In post 4238, DkKoba wrote:Enablers are usually informed - likely just shifted to imply different info.
What do you mean

An enabler is oftentimes informed of the role that they enable existing. Otherwise there is no guarantee.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #4244 (ISO) » Sat Jul 24, 2021 12:21 pm

Okay so Koba. How is Chaos locktown?

Dragon of the West · Post Post #4245 (ISO) » Sat Jul 24, 2021 12:24 pm

In post 4243, DkKoba wrote:
In post 4242, Dragon of the West wrote:
In post 4237, DkKoba wrote:Babysitter Enabler flipped uninformed so prob just that so yea

In post 4238, DkKoba wrote:Enablers are usually informed - likely just shifted to imply different info.
What do you mean
An enabler is oftentimes informed of the role that they enable existing. Otherwise there is no guarantee.

I doubt that the jailkeeper's "informed" was to say there was a babysitter. I think at minimum it would be informed about the entirety of the vcvb, if not more

Dragon of the West · Post Post #4246 (ISO) » Sat Jul 24, 2021 12:25 pm

Koba I promise that if you're town and claim honestly it'll be good for town

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #4247 (ISO) » Sat Jul 24, 2021 1:11 pm

In post 4238, DkKoba wrote:Enablers are usually informed - likely just shifted to imply different info.

The fuck?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #4248 (ISO) » Sat Jul 24, 2021 1:12 pm

In post 4243, DkKoba wrote:
In post 4242, Dragon of the West wrote:
In post 4237, DkKoba wrote:Babysitter Enabler flipped uninformed so prob just that so yea

In post 4238, DkKoba wrote:Enablers are usually informed - likely just shifted to imply different info.
What do you mean
An enabler is oftentimes informed of the role that they enable existing. Otherwise there is no guarantee.

No, they aren’t

DkKoba · Post Post #4249 (ISO) » Sat Jul 24, 2021 1:33 pm

In post 4248, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 4243, DkKoba wrote:
In post 4242, Dragon of the West wrote:
In post 4237, DkKoba wrote:Babysitter Enabler flipped uninformed so prob just that so yea

In post 4238, DkKoba wrote:Enablers are usually informed - likely just shifted to imply different info.
What do you mean
An enabler is oftentimes informed of the role that they enable existing. Otherwise there is no guarantee.
No, they aren’t

Proof.