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Post Post #875 (ISO) » Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:35 am

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In post 866, Esooa wrote:
In post 862, Dannflor wrote:and also, why not heaven yourself?
I don't actually think this is productive btw

wanting to "heaven yourself" is completely nai and it absolutely shouldn't be anyone's primary focus

all statements come with an assumption you will want to cause.. obviously

but yeah that's just not gonna go anywhere
I disagree

I think there's both town and scum motivation for not necessarily wanting to be heavened right away and I'd like to know Farren's reasoning even if it is just "well I would but i don't think enough people would vote for me"
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Post Post #876 (ISO) » Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:35 am

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their EoD was faked to appear towny which is what they wanted - when you remove that one little twilight comment, the sheep's clothing comes off
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Post Post #877 (ISO) » Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:36 am

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In post 872, Ich Troje wrote:if i were wolf I would because i struggle to get towncred as scum and firmly stay in the "null zone" in people's reads.
I'm not talking about yourself--I got the impression you think it's ideal for wolves to bus day 1

I'm wondering if you think that actually is the case that they did
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Post Post #878 (ISO) » Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:37 am

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clearly they didn't because farren only got 2 other votes
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Post Post #879 (ISO) » Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:40 am

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i just want to get to hell phase so we can go back to advancing our wincon
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Post Post #880 (ISO) » Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:40 am

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mostly tbh I'm wondering cause I'm still not sure about you

I think what you did day 1 was a lot of stuff like... You felt really reserved in your thought processes

intentionally, when saying things like "I don't want to give my read on x person cause I want to see that others have to say"

I thought completely neglecting the fact you yourself need to project town at first but after thinking about it more I don't really understand how you got to that

I think it's kinda weird you played with an assumption you should be town read, especially with how it lines up to you pushing for yourself to be heavened

like if that's the idea why not project town by explaining more day 1?

and past that I just find it weird behavior in general ig

and then people town read you pretty confidently (iirc this is all from memory having not read for a couple days) which I don't know where those reads came from
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Post Post #881 (ISO) » Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:41 am

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actually wasn't Dann one of the people to put you in the top of his towns?

I'm sorry if you have cause I've asked this a few times but have you explained that yet dann
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Post Post #882 (ISO) » Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:42 am

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heaven phase is like nomination mafia where you choose who is nightkilled but it can't be mafia idk lol

i wish this game was more explosive bc then there would be clear people who are like playing poorly but are obvtown that i could vote in lol


as long as we vote heaven outside nsg/farren we should be fine, even if we were to hit the 3rd scum
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Post Post #883 (ISO) » Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:42 am

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"I thought completely neglecting the fact you yourself need to project town at first **was towny** but after thinking about it more I don't really understand how you got to that" oops
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Post Post #884 (ISO) » Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:43 am

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i dont understand what u mean
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Post Post #885 (ISO) » Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:46 am

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your words are making me want to veto your slot today on top of farren wanting you voted in.

make sense please
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Post Post #886 (ISO) » Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:46 am

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In post 884, Ich Troje wrote:i dont understand what u mean
lol sorry I'm phone posting from bed

basically

alright I just stopped caring so nevermind LMAO
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Post Post #887 (ISO) » Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:47 am

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I thought of trying to explain that all again while typing on a phone and went nah

maybe later
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Post Post #888 (ISO) » Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:53 am

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In post 861, Dannflor wrote:Farren, when exactly did esooa switch to a heavenable read to you?
I can't pinpoint exactly where or when; it was one of those "There's a good chance I end up dead in the next few minutes; gun-to-my-head who do I think is most Town right now?" moments.
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Post Post #889 (ISO) » Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:54 am

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heaven candidates: me/flow/dann
not PoE for me so acceptable but eh: redteal

no: Esooa/T3
hard no: NSG/Farren
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Post Post #890 (ISO) » Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:55 am

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lmao please fuck off with that, you KNEW as soon as you voted enchant you were safe unless someone else came in and swapped off enchant, and posted with that assumption.
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Post Post #891 (ISO) » Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:57 am

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remember scum, you can flip me today and I won't have power to vote tomorrow ;)
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Post Post #892 (ISO) » Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:58 am

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In post 862, Dannflor wrote:and also, why not heaven yourself?
I figure advocating for myself today is going to be a waste of breath. It's just going to cause a repeat of yesterday - real-time yesterday, not D1. Increases the likelihood of the thread having an overall hostile atmosphere, and that's never a good thing for Town.

It's the same reason I decided to disengage yesterday. Too many people not around for it to be all scum-related lurking; either it's a heck of a coincidence with RL issues, or people are actively avoiding the thread because it's isn't fun. So I'm assuming the latter and trying to do my part to keep it from happening again.
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Post Post #893 (ISO) » Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:01 am

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In post 892, Farren wrote:
In post 862, Dannflor wrote:and also, why not heaven yourself?
I figure advocating for myself today is going to be a waste of breath. It's just going to cause a repeat of yesterday - real-time yesterday, not D1. Increases the likelihood of the thread having an overall hostile atmosphere, and that's never a good thing for Town.

It's the same reason I decided to disengage yesterday. Too many people not around for it to be all scum-related lurking; either it's a heck of a coincidence with RL issues, or people are actively avoiding the thread because it's isn't fun. So I'm assuming the latter and trying to do my part to keep it from happening again.
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Post Post #894 (ISO) » Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:02 am

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"uwu im so towny see, I won't push for myself because im so concerned with the gametstate uwu :3 heheheh see how towny I am?"
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Post Post #895 (ISO) » Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:03 am

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In post 866, Esooa wrote:
In post 862, Dannflor wrote:and also, why not heaven yourself?
I don't actually think this is productive btw

wanting to "heaven yourself" is completely nai and it absolutely shouldn't be anyone's primary focus

all statements come with an assumption you will want to cause.. obviously

but yeah that's just not gonna go anywhere
It's the same sort of deal as self-preservation, except in reverse.

Scum tend to lean towards self-preservation, as their team is hurt more by losing a member in a typical game.
Conversely, scum gains more by self-exaltation than Town does; one scum making it to Heaven is 50% of a scum wincon, while in Town's case, it's more playing defense.
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Post Post #896 (ISO) » Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:04 am

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farren will do anything to not post game advancing content and just active lurk the thread
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Post Post #897 (ISO) » Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:05 am

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In post 868, Esooa wrote:I think my first choice for heaven though would be Dan
Why Dannflor? He's risen in my estimation, but I wouldn't put him at the top of the line.
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Post Post #898 (ISO) » Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:12 am

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Someone else grill farren for me so they actually have to respond thx
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Post Post #899 (ISO) » Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:15 am

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