Mini Theme 2222: Open Draft Mafia [Game Over]

[NorwegianboyEE]

mafia please let me know if you have redactions

I'd like to redact my dumb spelling errors.

[T3]

GG.
I've learned not to trust my gut when reading anime girl avatars.

[Dunnstral]

I was kind of obvious town due to the roles I passed on

[NorwegianboyEE]

GG.
I've learned not to trust my gut when reading anime girl avatars.

UwU

[Titus]

Mod: Why did I get a new neighbor thread?

(It has zero posts lol, so no redactions)

[NorwegianboyEE]

Imagine not posting in your exclusive thread.

[Titus]

Imagine not posting in your exclusive thread.

It was my exclusive thread for like 5 minutes. Shortest hood ever.

[Dwlee99]

The neighborizer hoods are setup from the "neighbor" hood.

[Dwlee99]

Setup separately*

[Bingle]

Yeah, setup is too townsided. The goal was to have very little in the way of reliable guilties (especially early ones) and we apparently overlooked a few. Legitimately I’d forgotten disloyal checker was even in the pool let alone capable of acting N1.

I was mostly ignoring Dwlee scum as an option because if mastina didn’t die that was functionally clearing for him imo. I think base packs need to be edited to have fewer investigative results on d2/3 and more 0 or low utility roles that are kind of fun to use, with the potential of an expansion to add back in the invests for a larger game.

Either way, well played all and thanks for the game mr cat.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Also Momrangal apparently only switched out because they forgot this game existed, so screw you everyone that said it was an scum indicative replace out.

[MURDERCAT]

Yeah dwlee has it right, Titus got the normal neighbor thread, mastina was in T3's thread

[Dunnstral]

I also saw:

Novice detective
Night 3 thread analyst
Night 5 tracker

In this game

[MURDERCAT]

I think base packs need to be edited to have fewer investigative results on d2/3 and more 0 or low utility roles that are kind of fun to use, with the potential of an expansion to add back in the invests for a larger game.

Agreed, it's hard to balance town feeling like they have fun stuff to do and scum not being totally overwhelmed

[MURDERCAT]

The full rand is in the mod thread for anyone curious

[Dunnstral]

I think packs being passed around is town sided in that it gives town info to work with or forces scum kills. Maybe this setup should be 15p with 4 scum?

[Infinity 324]

I was mostly ignoring Dwlee scum as an option because if mastina didn’t die that was functionally clearing for him imo

Why?

[Bingle]

Well sorry Bingle. I knew the result on mastina was hinky.

No worries. I did what I did because the pack was commute, N2 gsmith, odd doc and I thought I was likely to die N1 over just about everyone. (Originally I’d submitted a Dunn heal, but decided taking the commute was probably safer). I lied mostly because the odds of the lie being called out were low ~25% both other commutes were chosen - odds they were already burned and I didn’t want the doc role to disappear.

[Bingle]

I was mostly ignoring Dwlee scum as an option because if mastina didn’t die that was functionally clearing for him imo

Why?

Repeatable doc and killing role on the same person. If that person is town you basically have to shoot there. Scum dwlee knows he can’t shoot you or me, and shooting PoE players is dangerous anyway.

[Titus]

Well sorry Bingle. I knew the result on mastina was hinky.

No worries. I did what I did because the pack was commute, N2 gsmith, odd doc and I thought I was likely to die N1 over just about everyone. (Originally I’d submitted a Dunn heal, but decided taking the commute was probably safer). I lied mostly because the odds of the lie being called out were low ~25% both other commutes were chosen - odds they were already burned and I didn’t want the doc role to disappear.

Fwiw, I had a similar read on you n1 which is why I put NDMath to the test over their claim. It's why I rolecopped them. I would have rolecopped you based on my beliefs but lol commuting.

[Titus]

Btw, it was fun playing with all of you. If you can make it to Sacramento next month, I am hosting a mafiascum get together.

[Bingle]

Agreed, it's hard to balance town feeling like they have fun stuff to do and scum not being totally overwhelmed

We could add some non factional tracking roles (follower that can’t pick up the nk), some off the cuff utility roles (the ability to leave behind a message when limmed), some additional disruptive roles (commute style non investigative hider) and communication roles (more neighborizors) to the main packs.

Scum wouldn’t go wrong with a factional action or two as well (rolecop/roleblocker).

Otherwise, running as is 11:4 would probably work as a fix.

[MURDERCAT]

Definitely like the idea of adding in factional rolecop and roleblock, agree about the roles as well

[Titus]

I'm not sure how feasible this is but what about adding things like

N2 Tracker or Strongman that way there's a scum role and a town role in the same pack

[Flea The Magician]

Can we please not just yeet the freaking fairy for making sense D1?

I tried hinting to Bingle that I had the psychologist and N1 Tracker...

Next time I'm just going to lolpost, would probably last me longer.