mini normal 2226; who won

[Aristeia]

the mental gymnastics point makes sense a little but I still want to see Ari re-litigate her Alch read

What's there to re-litigate? I don't think he's done anything that makes me stop and think this person is town and I'm not really interested in forcing through a second elim when I've been wrong once.

[Gamma Emerald]

it feels like you've abandoned it completely though

[Gamma Emerald]

so like, there's two means of amending my concern, either showing why the lead has been dropped, or showing that's not the case
I don't feel like either has been done sufficiently

[Alchemist21]

luke, how may i bribe you for an umlaut vote?

How can we get you on board the chaos wagon?

Similar to Luke, I don’t like the idea of Chaos getting away a second Day in a row.

[Aristeia]

so like, there's two means of amending my concern, either showing why the lead has been dropped, or showing that's not the case
I don't feel like either has been done sufficiently

Gamma,

I still believe Alchemist is mafia.

However I'm not going to impose my will on the thread when I've already been wrong once.

I am going to sheep the people that I town-read and who were right to tell me no yesterday because that's just how I play cooperative games and it's probably just the right thing to do so that everyone has fun.

[Gamma Emerald]

You don’t have to impose your will in order to push scum

[Aristeia]

There can only be one elimination every day.

If I am pushing for my suspect - someone who I believe is scum and as far as I can tell someone nobody else thinks is scum,

I am saying that my opinion matters more than the opinion of every other town!player playing this game.

Unless I'm extremely sure, I would not do this, and sometimes I don't do this even when I am extremely sure because it's not a nice way to play.

[MathBlade]

1224 reads to me like someone entirely uninterested in the game not scummy. Many many times I have seen completely disinterested town and scum make similar posts. Ari also did the same sort of uninterested hop in but yet you pick on Umlaut why? I have as scum taken advantage of disinterested town to get a quick elim. We just had wagonpalooza D1 and now 4 people are confident sans case?

That reads one of two things neither of which are protown to share yet. Regardless I think a scum in Chaos, Datisi, Gamma, and Titus is quite high regardless of which explanation I go down.

Premise A: (Secret premise)
If Premise A is true then scum likely think Premise A is true and therefore would vote Umlaut.
If Premise A is not true then scum likely think they may get a free elim by hopping on without discussion like everyone else.

It’s rather telling that 1224 is the first attempt to explain Umlaut scum rather than using D1 and that’s after unexplained votes appeared.

To those of you who are that sure Umlaut is scum, why not go look back and see what was scummy D1?

Make a case of it.

Math says he's not defending me and wants me limmed but this definitely reads like defending to me...

Because that’s not a defense. That’s asking for explanations and explaining my thoughts.

[MathBlade]

Shit got quiet though.

Ythan or tris would you please do a prod check?

[Datisi]

the only person that needs a prod rn is omega...

math, if you intend on voting umlaut, what's the point in making people "hunt around"? isn't that just giving away info?

[Datisi]

ari, do you directly suspect anyone other than alchemist? other than me and/or umlaut, i guess.

[MathBlade]

the only person that needs a prod rn is omega...

math, if you intend on voting umlaut, what's the point in making people "hunt around"? isn't that just giving away info?

Finding other likely scum and sometimes you can bury info if done well. Especially with a certain someone screaming “OMG info here” every three seconds.

[MathBlade]

Also considering D1 the fact the thread like had no posts for a good chunk of time is weird as fuck.

[Titus]

luke, how may i bribe you for an umlaut vote?

How can we get you on board the chaos wagon?

Similar to Luke, I don’t like the idea of Chaos getting away a second Day in a row.

This doesn't answer how you feel about Umlaut. It's a deflection instead.

[MathBlade]

VOTE: Alch

Experiment time!

[MathBlade]

VOTE: Unvote

Nevermind bad idea.

Datisi I will make you a deal. I will vote Umlaut right now for the low low price of “told you so” post game.

[MathBlade]

And the Told you so isn’t about Umlaut.

It’s that this day was played horribly wrong.

[Datisi]

mmm, that i can see.

[MathBlade]

So do you take me up on it?

Or may I continue being weird?

[Datisi]

knock yourself out, math. i wouldn't mind getting some more omega content before eod anyway.

[MathBlade]

Thank you. I have to work now, but we need more content here.

[Titus]

Content.

The problem with continuing is that I have my four person theory and I don't see how more posting changes that.

[MathBlade]

Content.

The problem with continuing is that I have my four person theory and I don't see how more posting changes that.

It’s not about you Titus. *sigh*

Just for once it’s not about you.

[Ythan]

Replacing Vulture.

[Ythan]

Prodding ChaosOmega.