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[Dwlee99]

How does that leave that list exactly?

@T3

[T3]

Mastina, Titus really deserved a lim there and I'm confused on how anyone got a townread out of what she was saying.

Same. mastina is still town though.

[T3]

How does that leave that list exactly?

What do you mean?

[mastina]

but if you wanna go that route, fine. you feel flat as fuck and for someone who's supposed to be very easy to obvtown, it's a horrible look. i don't care you had the other game where you were in f3. i don't care about who has more or fewer posts, when most of your posts were either screaming at mastina, throwing a fit at anyone looking at you for acting scummy, or s_s throwing out unmemorable comments. the way that you're latching onto things like this and spewing ate while not actually offering content to solve looks bad.

but you're free to actually offer some content and lay out how this is apparently not all that different from us last game.

Btw this is :goodposting: from Datisi since TLDNE is very very highly likely scum, too.

I just think Bingle's scum stronger, and that TLDNE is a Bingle scumbuddy.

[Dwlee99]

How does that leave that list exactly?

What do you mean?

I pained limit so limming them would be a waste.
That leaves RCE, Bingle, and Dwlee.
Assuming limit scum there's probably 2 scum in there, if not then we look at Emp.

The RCE, Bingle, Me list.

[T3]

but if you wanna go that route, fine. you feel flat as fuck and for someone who's supposed to be very easy to obvtown, it's a horrible look. i don't care you had the other game where you were in f3. i don't care about who has more or fewer posts, when most of your posts were either screaming at mastina, throwing a fit at anyone looking at you for acting scummy, or s_s throwing out unmemorable comments. the way that you're latching onto things like this and spewing ate while not actually offering content to solve looks bad.

but you're free to actually offer some content and lay out how this is apparently not all that different from us last game.

Btw this is :goodposting: from Datisi since TLDNE is very very highly likely scum, too.

I just think Bingle's scum stronger, and that TLDNE is a Bingle scumbuddy.

How does that leave that list exactly?

What do you mean?

I pained limit so limming them would be a waste.
That leaves RCE, Bingle, and Dwlee.
Assuming limit scum there's probably 2 scum in there, if not then we look at Emp.

The RCE, Bingle, Me list.

I have a PoE, that is the list.

[T3]

mastinatown emptown norweetown fairytown capstown
Emp town is the one I'm least sure about there.

[T3]

Emp is the rare "I actually townread them by play and tond not by meta" which as I have learned with Norwee in ODM I can be very wrong about.

[T3]

*tone

[T3]

mastina is town by overall meta, Fairy is town for meta in response the pressure from Flea, Norwee is town for meta in response to pressure, GCB is town for Datisi's emotion in terms of meta.
That's a lot of the word meta.

[Dwlee99]

Okay
VOTE: Bingle

[Dwlee99]

What's my meta t3

[T3]

What's my meta t3

I don't know

[Dwlee99]

Meta good DEBUNKED

[The Limit Does Not Exist]

Why? lillith somehow got

~no~

read on me, not even vague vibes off my 200 posts and then once I suggest something I am immediately scumread by lillith because 'Binlge said it's bad'

1) as I have repeatedly explained, I never fully caught up D1, and have few reads to begin with
2) as I also explained, the strategy you proposed would have given scum enough information to optimize the use of their pain potions, on top of the advantage they already have by being informed and being able to coordinate with each other's potion use. I also wrote a post that I didn't hit submit on, about how I view most suggestions of massclaiming as automatically suspicious, especially early in the game, because massclaiming comes at a cost and in my opinion doesn't help town unless we can mech clear someone from it, which we can't in this setup because of the randomized nature.
3) as I also also mentioned, the reason you were in my shoot pool had nothing to do with your suggestion but more to do with titus flipping green, if titus flipped green, which I thought was pretty self-explanatory.

- lilith

[Dwlee99]

Lilith did you shoot t3 then

[The Limit Does Not Exist]

We didn't attack anyone.

-S

[Dwlee99]

Me blind

[mastina]

Retti is vaguely town sounding meanwhile Datisi oozes town.

^Basically this.

I basically assumed that if anyone was going to be targeted by the scum other than me it'd have been Green Cap Boys. Obviously, if I have any watcher/doc/jk potions I'd use them on GCB to protect them or catch scum. I should also, just as obviously, not state if I actually do have any of those. (Unless of course I had information to give from having done so but to my knowledge, I've no need to give such info out.)

Assumed mastina would as well.

You didn't read my posts, then;

For the record I'm not shooting N1 as a vig shot imo is the sort of thing that I should use only if I were to lose it--in this case, N3. But were I to shoot my pool would explicitly be whichever of {Bingle, Fairy Circle} we don't eliminate today.

If I have a pain potion, the one and only reason I would use it before N3 is if I thought I was going to die and the vig would go to waste. If I have two pain potions, then I would still not shoot until N2 unless I thought scum were going to kill me outright N1 (which I did not in fact think, I banked on scum being too afraid of me being the target of various protections to outright try to kill me meaning I had zero incentive to use a pain potion N1).

If I have a pain potion, then I am never using it outside of {Bingle, Fairy Circle, The Limit Does Not Exist}, but if I have a pain potion, I did not use it N1.

I obviously see no need to give more info than this as this is already pushing it.

[The Limit Does Not Exist]

but if you wanna go that route, fine. you feel flat as fuck and for someone who's supposed to be very easy to obvtown, it's a horrible look. i don't care you had the other game where you were in f3. i don't care about who has more or fewer posts, when most of your posts were either screaming at mastina, throwing a fit at anyone looking at you for acting scummy, or s_s throwing out unmemorable comments. the way that you're latching onto things like this and spewing ate while not actually offering content to solve looks bad.

but you're free to actually offer some content and lay out how this is apparently not all that different from us last game.

Btw this is :goodposting: from Datisi since TLDNE is very very highly likely scum, too.

I just think Bingle's scum stronger, and that TLDNE is a Bingle scumbuddy.

this is how i feel about this:

your moronic scumread on me.

- lilith

[Fairy Circle]

If you ever want me to CONSIDER your slot as town you fucking owe me a Bingle vote here.

I threw down a bingle vote when I came back, we even threw him a potion at night.

What dp you think pf that

[Fairy Circle]

, Bingle ----> Titus ----> RCE -----> green bois ----> limit

There literally should not be eliminations or. Kills outsode of that

Gonna try and get on later, but that's the game winning order

I mean, also.

Not sure where you get the impression I'm against bingle

[Dwlee99]

Should we just pain bingle then at some point or do we not want to risk a jailkeep.keeping him alive?

[mastina]

I pained limit so limming them would be a waste.

I don't trust pain potions to serve as guaranteed eliminations here given that:
-Scum players can lie about having pain potion'd a player and thus a player we think we could kill, could end up surviving
-Scum players can, if they have them, doctor/jailkeep players and thus negate pain potions on them and thus a player we think we could kill, could end up surviving
-Town players can be roleblocked by a jailkeeper and thus a player we think we could kill, could end up surviving
-There are multiple players that are good eliminations who have been pain potioned; we can't remove all of them from the elimination pool just because all of them have been targeted by a pain potion.

So I'm still not voting anyone outside of {Bingle, The Limit Does Not Exist, Fairy Circle} (preference in that order), and I'm still not going to pain potion anyone outside of {Bingle, The Limit Does Not Exist, Fairy Circle}.

Pain potion eliminations are nice, and they are a good backup fallback plan, and they are a boon to bolster our chances; they should not be the one true dictation of the game considering the myriad of ways they can fail.

To put it another way: the elimination cannot fail; pain potions can. So I will not endorse letting a scumread off of the elimination-hook for a CHANCE that the scumread dies to a pain potion.

[mastina]

mastina is town by overall meta, Fairy is town for meta in response the pressure from Flea, Norwee is town for meta in response to pressure, GCB is town for Datisi's emotion in terms of meta.

I have thoughts on this but I won't share them unless I live to see D3.