Mini 2230: Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night: Game Over

[Lukewarm]

im a human VT/

demonic unknown backup

Hello. We're the desharder you're looking for. We are a human vt,

demon vanillarizer & shard destroyer

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I see now why the vanillarizer is actually quite helpful. I was afraid we would be suplexed into the sun if we claimed it earlier. In retrospect, maybe we should have claimed sooner and begged for shards. But we didnt know there was going to be a damn dayskip that sucked our time to work shit out away.

Sorry if my play this game has been exceptionally bad.

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This makes sense

[ManateeGal]

yea it does ! sucks cos outside of elimination theres no way for me to use the backup

[Lukewarm]

I think it might be worth doing?

If we can humanize 1 person a night then the scum team would have to stop demonizing people for at least 1 night to kill you or they would not win with the alternate win con.

And even that might not be great for them, because we will plant Medea's doc on you, so they gotta get past that too

[Spiffeh]

I'm not exactly convinced a desharder has to exist in this set up

I think it SHOULD, but I don't really want to put all our eggs in that basket

[Medea the Alien]

Issue with that plan is that the "8 demon wincon" is "any point in time" not a "at a specific checkpoint" thing.

It's at best a one for one trade, at worst it's an instant loss depending on if the scumshards resolve first.

[Medea the Alien]

I'm not exactly convinced a desharder has to exist in this set up

I think it SHOULD, but I don't really want to put all our eggs in that basket

Why make my role VT/Introdoc instead of like pooky's if I couldn't be desharded?

[Spiffeh]

I also don't think it is worth risking sharding anyone today either

But like idk

It feels really hopeless at this point unless we hit the Corrupter

[Spiffeh]

I get what you mean

This might sound stupid but that doesn't mean the desharder is Town right?

[Here There Be Dragons]

although i agree that that's the most likely thing that could be going on if manatee is real, if that isn't what's going on it would be a game losing mistake for sure. not rushing to support my own elim here. it makes more sense to try to get the corrupter today imo.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Issue with that plan is that the "8 demon wincon" is "any point in time" not a "at a specific checkpoint" thing.

It's at best a one for one trade, at worst it's an instant loss depending on if the scumshards resolve first.

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[Medea the Alien]

a real scum doctor

Also, this would still require us to be a scum introverted doctor, which uh, yeah, no.

[Medea the Alien]

Issue with that plan is that the "8 demon wincon" is "any point in time" not a "at a specific checkpoint" thing.

It's at best a one for one trade, at worst it's an instant loss depending on if the scumshards resolve first.

[XXXXXXXXXXXXX]

? Am I wrong?

[Lukewarm]

Issue with that plan is that the "8 demon wincon" is "any point in time" not a "at a specific checkpoint" thing.

It's at best a one for one trade, at worst it's an instant loss depending on if the scumshards resolve first.

I thought it was 9

If we are at 6 now, then at night the scum team turns 1 and manatee turns one back, then we go 6->7->6, and never cross the 9 demon threshold

[Medea the Alien]

Oh, right, nine.

But we don't know for sure we're at 6.

And manatee can't do anything? You meant cephtd

[Lady Lambdadelta]

LLD remember pemdas

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[Here There Be Dragons]

a real scum doctor

Also, this would still require us to be a scum introverted doctor, which uh, yeah, no.

in a void i don't feel this is impossible

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Issue with that plan is that the "8 demon wincon" i

s "any point in time" not a "at a specific checkpoint"

thing.

It's at best a one for one trade, at worst it's an instant loss depending on if the scumshards resolve first.

[XXXXXXXXXXXXX]

? Am I wrong?

Oh, right, nine.

But we don't know for sure we're at 6.

And manatee can't do anything? You meant cephtd

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[Lady Lambdadelta]

LLD remember pemdas

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[Lukewarm]

although i agree that that's the most likely thing that could be going on if manatee is real, if that isn't what's going on it would be a game losing mistake for sure. not rushing to support my own elim here. it makes more sense to try to get the corrupter today imo.

If someone has a confident case on who the corrupter is, then yeah. Let's do that.

But I am not sure who to kill with that game plan, and missing there is also game losing

[Spiffeh]

LLD do you think my reasoning for AA9 potentially being the corruptor is plausible in 4119?

Or is it flawed?

[Here There Be Dragons]

luke do you think there's any possibility that there would be a backup for your role

you don't have to answer

[Spiffeh]

although i agree that that's the most likely thing that could be going on if manatee is real, if that isn't what's going on it would be a game losing mistake for sure. not rushing to support my own elim here. it makes more sense to try to get the corrupter today imo.

If someone has a confident case on who the corrupter is, then yeah. Let's do that.

But I am not sure who to kill with that game plan, and missing there is also game losing

UM HELLO

[ManateeGal]

are we operating under the theory the corrupter still has shots? cos thatd be buckwild

[Lukewarm]

Oh, right, nine.

But we don't know for sure we're at 6.

And manatee can't do anything? You meant cephtd

No, we are talking about if it is worth it to kill ceph while he is still human, to let manatee start desharding people since she is already a demon.

Turning ceph would take too long, and just lose us the game.

[Medea the Alien]

are we operating under the theory the corrupter still has shots? cos thatd be buckwild

The working theory behind-the-cameras-at-penguin's-lab-block is that it was some sort of a Novice modifier. With X-shots, but I'm not willing to bet the game that it's 2 and not 3 or something.