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Post Post #2400 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 11:00 am

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Spoiler:
In post 1391, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Actually I dont think Roden's answer is going to change my mind

VOTE: Roden

I'm feeling inspired
In post 1399, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Game is starting to feel, like Gamma was saying, like the active posters are all town. I went back to reread RVS because that's where I tend to be best at catching scum and think Roden could be scum from the first 10ish pages
In post 1477, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 1469, Infinity 324 wrote:ok well my readrate on skitt is 100% besides perpetual melo so there

VOTE: ceph
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That's a funny way to spell Roden
In post 1480, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Whenever Infinity hasn't been pushing skitter she's fallen back to Ceph. Once in the beginning, and now again. Mostly she's just voting skitter and mediating other discussions though. Recently she said she's ready to basically just defend townreads and jump on the biggest wagon that isn't on her townreads. In the same post she says she'd like to sort Roden or cephrir if they're around. Ceph
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been around though, and she's had the time to sort him since early today when she made the effort to get away from the skitter push. So it doesnt track to me that she's still looking to vote him over Roden right now. Especially when she seemed receptive to voting Roden until he became an actual wagon.

Highly suspicious :dead:

Fwiw I think if you read cephrir's iso that infinity's point falls apart rather easily. Maybe I'm being too easy in TRing ceph though.
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In post 1577, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1572, rousseau wrote:hi! the rescuers (morning tweet iso) if you'd be so kind
Okay, I read them. Was there any information given about who's controlling them?

Presumably it's not MT, since this wasn't listed as a bastard game.
Tetrina told us she was invited to this game by MT and that she plays irl. I believe based on the description of the players that are controlling the callers it is possible that the 5 callers also know MT irl and possibly are from the same player group as Tetrina.
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In post 1722, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:in my experience when there's 2 leading wagons and neither of the 2 have any solid/real read on the other wagon its probly just S/S
They both just repped in, though generally I'd agree. Enchant should at least be able to read S_S via Roden though
In post 1731, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:VOTE: enchant

E-1 I think


These are all the times you mention the ss/roden sloy and/or interact with it between the roden vote and the enchant vote, unless i missed something

So, uh, where did the townvibes even happen

Like you're explaining your votes with a lot of trajectory that there's no evidende for itt
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Post Post #2401 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 11:05 am

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In post 2399, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 2397, skitter30 wrote:Ss i get that you're a replacement but its been like 30 paged and close to a week since you've repped in, so when are you going to get ~into~ the game
Partly bad timing, partly that I can't really engage with content that's about me.
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Post Post #2402 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 11:24 am

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In post 2398, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 2392, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:hoping SS can come do his obvtown thing if he's like actually town >..>
I mean I sure can't now?
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Post Post #2403 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 11:53 am

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i just don't think the game is this easy
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Post Post #2404 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 11:54 am

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Post Post #2405 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 12:00 pm

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i think it's pretty reasonable when deciding between inactive slots to go based on vibes/recency bias and not explain your reasoning. you were on me for similar reasons @skitter
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Post Post #2406 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 12:08 pm

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i mean i didn't flip you for vibes that i didn't explain anywhere
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Post Post #2407 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 12:38 pm

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no i mean i voted enchant over ss for "vibes"
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Post Post #2408 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 12:41 pm

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I'm willing to give SS time to analyze things and come up with some alternate solutions but the more he sits there frozen the more I think he's like frozen scum who is scared of spewing
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Post Post #2409 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 12:41 pm

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Post Post #2410 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 12:43 pm

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Alternate solutions to what?
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Post Post #2411 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 12:47 pm

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eliminating you :#
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Post Post #2412 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 12:49 pm

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I mean, my PoE is {Tetrina, Gamma, ssbm, Infinity}. People seem to like Tetrina so {Gamma, ssbm, Infinity}. There are your alternate solutions.
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Post Post #2413 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 1:47 pm

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Post Post #2414 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 1:48 pm

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buddy if you're town im gonna need you to try that again with some feeling
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Post Post #2415 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 1:54 pm

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In post 2395, skitter30 wrote:
In post 2363, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:I was more focused on S_S because I was SRing Roden when he replaced out, and I felt like the wagon on House was garbage. There wasn't any evidence to it and it felt kind of out of the blue, so initially I held off on voting enchant because of my bias against the previous House wagon. After seeing what Enchant claimed and what S_S said about preferring not to claim though, combined with the town vibes I was getting from S_S, and seeing what others were posting about Enchant and his responses, it was clear he'd given up. I wasn't sure if it was given up town or scum, but he seemed like a solid elimination regardless of his alignment. Not the town you want in ELO, as he could be easily mislimmed.

There wasnt anything to read on House really, his iso was like 2-3 posts maybe?, and I was probably more focused on Gamma or another active player at the time he was a hot topic. After I started to come around on Gamma though I'd gone through a lot of players and had a lot of people as either town or out of the poe, and it became increasingly likely to me that scum was in the lurkers, House and Roden.

You could probably say the same thing about me and House to half the playerlist wrt there being not much there. Nobody else defended the wagon I dont think, except maybe lightly, but to me it looked like some lazy votes on House that were there to distract from someone else. And nobody else was speaking up about how bad the wagon was. Pooky and Gamma will recall how hard I defended scum (KittyTacky) on D1 of owners market blitz. Sometimes I'm just wrong.
So you're basically saying that you didnt want to flip ss and felt enchant was an ok compromise?
Can you elaborate on what townie things you were seeing from ss post replacement?

Like i guess my problem here is that you sort of switched how you were reading each slot at a *convenient* time
Like i said in my last post it somewhat looks like you switched fo make sure you were on the scumwagon

Also flipping people day1 because you dont want them in elo seems dubious to me

Also i think its possible to have gotten a read on House feom his 3 posts (i did), so i'm kindaa curious how you have such a steadfastedly strong null read (and defended his nullness a few times) when other people have had reads on him and have talked abt him. Like yeah he only had a handful of posts but you cant just handwave away the ai-ness of them because his iso was short

Also given how *null* you're reading him you seem to remember a lot abt him/his wagon/what was going on at the time of his wagon, which is a bit weird to me. Like idk i dont remember anything abt gamma being a hot topic while house was, but i feel like a partner probably would

Also the wagon wasnt really bad, his handful of posts was sketchy and he was scum
No, I was working between those 2 slots and started leaning more towards town on S_S. I would have hammered S_S before deadline if my vote was needed to resolve a deadlock (it wouldnt be because of plurality, but assuming we didnt have plurality, I would have) and
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would have been a compromise for me. I cant elaborate on vibes, no. I have posted what little reasoning there was behind my vibes. Search my iso for 'measured' and for 'heh' to find relevant posts. Or just read it instead of ctrl-F'ing for names, because you've already missed a lot that way.

I didn't ever ISO house until well after he replaced out. He posted something game-related once and then made 1-2 posts about how he couldn't keep up and then replaced out. I think it was a waste of time to focus on him when he was so absent from the game, and I was preoccupied with other avenues. I had scumreads I was sorting the whole game until I got to the point where I realized "hey, everyone that's posting seems pretty towny, maybe it's time to lim a lurker" and started by ISOing Roden because I recalled him having content. I scumread him from that and started pushing.

I remember because I'm the one that was pushing Gamma, and I have a decent memory for the content of posts but not always for the relative timeline. I think actually Gamma came after Galron, who came after House? Possibly before? I was looking at VCs the other day and remember House and Galron wagons were back to back, just not sure which was first.

I explained why the wagon was bad back around 968(not sure if that was the exact post number). Nobody posted reasoning, except Tetrina, and hers was pretty weak. She was right, but it was weak. The fact he flipped scum doesnt make that wagon any less bad.
In post 2400, skitter30 wrote:
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In post 1391, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Actually I dont think Roden's answer is going to change my mind

VOTE: Roden

I'm feeling inspired
In post 1399, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Game is starting to feel, like Gamma was saying, like the active posters are all town. I went back to reread RVS because that's where I tend to be best at catching scum and think Roden could be scum from the first 10ish pages
In post 1477, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 1469, Infinity 324 wrote:ok well my readrate on skitt is 100% besides perpetual melo so there

VOTE: ceph
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That's a funny way to spell Roden
In post 1480, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Whenever Infinity hasn't been pushing skitter she's fallen back to Ceph. Once in the beginning, and now again. Mostly she's just voting skitter and mediating other discussions though. Recently she said she's ready to basically just defend townreads and jump on the biggest wagon that isn't on her townreads. In the same post she says she'd like to sort Roden or cephrir if they're around. Ceph
has
been around though, and she's had the time to sort him since early today when she made the effort to get away from the skitter push. So it doesnt track to me that she's still looking to vote him over Roden right now. Especially when she seemed receptive to voting Roden until he became an actual wagon.

Highly suspicious :dead:

Fwiw I think if you read cephrir's iso that infinity's point falls apart rather easily. Maybe I'm being too easy in TRing ceph though.
In post 1599, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 1577, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1572, rousseau wrote:hi! the rescuers (morning tweet iso) if you'd be so kind
Okay, I read them. Was there any information given about who's controlling them?

Presumably it's not MT, since this wasn't listed as a bastard game.
Tetrina told us she was invited to this game by MT and that she plays irl. I believe based on the description of the players that are controlling the callers it is possible that the 5 callers also know MT irl and possibly are from the same player group as Tetrina.
In post 1728, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 1722, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:in my experience when there's 2 leading wagons and neither of the 2 have any solid/real read on the other wagon its probly just S/S
They both just repped in, though generally I'd agree. Enchant should at least be able to read S_S via Roden though
In post 1731, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:VOTE: enchant

E-1 I think


These are all the times you mention the ss/roden sloy and/or interact with it between the roden vote and the enchant vote, unless i missed something

So, uh, where did the townvibes even happen

Like you're explaining your votes with a lot of trajectory that there's no evidende for itt
I was gonna grab you quotes but just search me for 'heh' and 'measured', and maybe read the part of my iso around the dueling wagons and combine it with S_S so you can see where I'm responding to him
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Post Post #2416 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 1:55 pm

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S_S can you explain reads on any of those 4 players?
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Post Post #2417 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 1:56 pm

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Cuz that whole poe looks town to me, maybe an outside chance of Infinity scum
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Post Post #2418 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 1:56 pm

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shhh dont give him any hints
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Post Post #2419 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 1:58 pm

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In post 2402, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 2398, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 2392, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:hoping SS can come do his obvtown thing if he's like actually town >..>
I mean I sure can't now?
I believe in you if you're town buddy
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Post Post #2420 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 2:06 pm

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In post 2416, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:S_S can you explain reads on any of those 4 players?
No because it's PoE but I can and did explain the other 6.
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Post Post #2421 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 2:10 pm

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In post 2420, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 2416, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:S_S can you explain reads on any of those 4 players?
No because it's PoE but I can and did explain the other 6.
Explain skitter and pooky.
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Post Post #2422 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 2:12 pm

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In post 2421, Galron wrote:
In post 2420, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 2416, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:S_S can you explain reads on any of those 4 players?
No because it's PoE but I can and did explain the other 6.
Explain skitter and pooky.
And dgb please
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Post Post #2423 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 2:17 pm

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you can't use PoE when you're the top suspect dude

Can you like do an actual scumcase on somebody :3
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Post Post #2424 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 2:17 pm

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