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Dwlee99 · Post Post #1250 (ISO) » Thu Aug 26, 2021 1:36 pm

In post 684, Kazyan wrote:
In post 679, Ythan wrote:
In post 92, Kazyan wrote:I like that we have things to talk about already besides the IC, though I'm still kinda in the phase where I only know anything about Jolyne's role and my role. So, I'm going to watch and reread for a while in order to differentiate people in my mind.
This feels to me like not purely fluff but a subtle suggestion that you are uninformed town. And other than that it is fluff which makes it stand out.
There is a specific purpose to that post. ♬~

Here is what I'm talking about

Kazyan · Post Post #1251 (ISO) » Thu Aug 26, 2021 1:43 pm

Claim noted.

Also, can we figure out what the deal with Enchant is today before we kill anyone? I feel like if he's town, scum are going to bulldose through Kazyan -> Enchant as miselims and then town will really have to get its act together.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1252 (ISO) » Thu Aug 26, 2021 2:02 pm

Kazyan 100% LAWKTOWN

Kazyan · Post Post #1253 (ISO) » Thu Aug 26, 2021 2:12 pm

Given that the actual Watcher could confirm or deny Dwlee's claim, and we're supposedly near Mountainous anyway, what does everyone think about a massclaim?

Dwlee99 · Post Post #1254 (ISO) » Thu Aug 26, 2021 2:43 pm

I don't see how a mass claim helps. Watcher could be scum or non-existent

ssbm_Kyouko · Post Post #1255 (ISO) » Thu Aug 26, 2021 4:58 pm

VOTE: Kazyan

no way do we have an actual watcher in 2v11, and if we do, scum are probably both ninjas and we have compulsive fruit vendors or trackers or something shitty like that that will produce false guilties on town

ssbm_Kyouko · Post Post #1256 (ISO) » Thu Aug 26, 2021 4:59 pm

Dwlee crumbed when he confirmed he hardclaimed he saw my post stating that my role cannot interfere with investigations

Dwlee99 · Post Post #1257 (ISO) » Thu Aug 26, 2021 8:50 pm

You found a real crumb this time

Kazyan did you mean to soft watcher there?

geraintm · Post Post #1258 (ISO) » Thu Aug 26, 2021 9:03 pm

Just quickly checking in to say hi, away most of the day

Enchant · Post Post #1259 (ISO) » Fri Aug 27, 2021 1:10 am

Imagine not watching IC as Watcher.

Enchant · Post Post #1260 (ISO) » Fri Aug 27, 2021 1:19 am

In post 1251, Kazyan wrote:Claim noted.

Also, can we figure out what the deal with Enchant is today before we kill anyone? I feel like if he's town, scum are going to bulldose through Kazyan -> Enchant as miselims and then town will really have to get its act together.

Because i am LuRkEr i quess.

DrippingGoofball wrote:Kazyan 100% LAWKTOWN

I am sick of mafia telling how this was towny, not adding anything and then disappearing.
VOTE: DrippingGoofball

Idk why you townread him.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #1261 (ISO) » Fri Aug 27, 2021 1:22 am

In post 1260, Enchant wrote:Because i am LuRkEr i quess.

I've seen you effort before dude. If you're town do that

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1262 (ISO) » Fri Aug 27, 2021 1:46 am

There has got to be a catch, you can't have an IC and a watcher, that pretty much equates one dead scum.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1263 (ISO) » Fri Aug 27, 2021 1:47 am

In post 1260, Enchant wrote:Idk why you townread him.

I townread him because no scum spends the whole gamenight scumhunting.

Enchant · Post Post #1264 (ISO) » Fri Aug 27, 2021 1:53 am

In post 1263, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 1260, Enchant wrote:Idk why you townread him.
I townread him because no scum spends the whole gamenight scumhunting.

I was about you.

Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 1260, Enchant wrote:Because i am LuRkEr i quess.
I've seen you effort before dude. If you're town do that

I hammered 2 townies in our previous game, what you about.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #1265 (ISO) » Fri Aug 27, 2021 2:11 am

I felt like you tried at the end there and you tried in the cult game

Kazyan · Post Post #1266 (ISO) » Fri Aug 27, 2021 2:20 am

In post 1260, Enchant wrote:Idk why you townread him.

It seemed like it was actually reading through the thread and forming scumhunting opinions, and Ythan told me that the pop-in-and-give-a-read communication style was just how DGB rolls. Honestly, I went back and forth on DGB for a while, but the partner analysis came out favorably. We should probably go back through DGB's ISO to specifically check if any of the scum pushes/town defenses went anywhere.

Kazyan · Post Post #1267 (ISO) » Fri Aug 27, 2021 2:26 am

Okay, hold on. Now that we're talking about DGB, I notice that DGB was calling Alice locktown and making a big deal out of being called scum just for townreading her, but at the end of the day, it had nothing to say about how much the Alice wagon sucked.

Kazyan · Post Post #1268 (ISO) » Fri Aug 27, 2021 2:47 am

In post 1257, Dwlee99 wrote:You found a real crumb this time

Kazyan did you mean to soft watcher there?

I'm not gonna claim my role yet, but it's not Watcher. My use of the word "watch" was a coincidence.

Enchant · Post Post #1269 (ISO) » Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:00 am

Why you leave crumbs, it's damn suicide without reason.

Titus · Post Post #1270 (ISO) » Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:18 am

In post 1249, Dwlee99 wrote:Okay I thought that Kazyan was a restricted watcher but clearly that isn't the case if he is okay saying he wants to be eliminated. I'm a backup watcher and could have sworn that was what he was softing which is why I went along with it so hard but I think now it might be a red herring based on mod meta but I'm not sure what to make of what I thought was Kazyan's soft

So why claim now? Why claim after one's person's soft was wrong? Second, K didn't claim so.....

Titus · Post Post #1271 (ISO) » Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:19 am

In post 1256, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Dwlee crumbed when he confirmed he hardclaimed he saw my post stating that my role cannot interfere with investigations

Am I just not reading the same game as everyone else?

Titus · Post Post #1272 (ISO) » Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:20 am

In post 1259, Enchant wrote:Imagine not watching IC as Watcher.

How do you know this didn't happen?

Dwlee99 · Post Post #1273 (ISO) » Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:25 am

In post 1270, Titus wrote:
In post 1249, Dwlee99 wrote:Okay I thought that Kazyan was a restricted watcher but clearly that isn't the case if he is okay saying he wants to be eliminated. I'm a backup watcher and could have sworn that was what he was softing which is why I went along with it so hard but I think now it might be a red herring based on mod meta but I'm not sure what to make of what I thought was Kazyan's soft
So why claim now? Why claim after one's person's soft was wrong? Second, K didn't claim so.....

Because I thought that if Kaz actually was trying to soft watcher he might just be full of crap cause actually having a watcher (even a night restricted one) in this game would probably be unbalanced. I started thinking about it when Kyo said she thought the soft was scummy cause before I thought it might make sense for there to be a night specific watcher.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #1274 (ISO) » Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:29 am

These were my softs. Kyo was pointing out the first one @Titus

In post 57, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 54, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 47, Nixie wrote:
In post 28, Nathann wrote:It's not. I confess, I usually eat oatmeal.
This is the honesty of town.
Hard claiming that my role will not mess with investigative results after skimming mod iso of those last 2 NK15 games
I hard claim seeing this post

In post 144, Dwlee99 wrote:I have a role too

In post 1096, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 1095, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 1093, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 1091, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
[url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=12959697#p12959697]post 1076[/url], ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 766, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Going to work on these players:

Kazyan
Nixie (Titus)
Ythan
DGB
AliceK
Going to continue with this. Titus doesnt seem town yet, tried to get a bit out of her earlier today when GMo was RTing with the fake roleclaim. I dont think I really know how to read her yet though as I've only been town with her once recently. I was scum with her once and scum against her once too, but have only had to read her once recently, and she was a claimed PR that was NKed early, so I didnt have to figure her out in that game either.
Finished reading these. I take Ythan out of poe toDay and would especially like to revisit if Kazyan flips scum and I'm still alive. Those posts in the early 600s where he randomly starts ISOing Kazyan look unnatural to me. If Kazyan is scum Ythan is a plausible partner.

Prefer to vote any of the other 4, in this order:
Kazyan (scummiest imo)
AliceK/DGB (not towny)
Titus (more proficient as town than AliceK/DGB, but also not towny)
Do you think the soft is scummy?
Yes, I don't think we should have any significant roles since we know it's 11:2
Mm that's an alright point. If this is what's happening I'd like Kazyan to claim while we still have time to talk about it

In post 1097, Dwlee99 wrote:"this" being the wagon on him.

In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=12960178#p12960178]post 1119[/url], Dwlee99 wrote:I'll be around to vote Kaz if we need to get 7 votes before deadline, but would still prefer not depending on the claim. I interpreted the soft a certain way and I'm not going to say more because I have other thoughts on if a role would exist or not that I don't want to say before the claim comes through