Mini 2231: Radio Buzz | Game Over!

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

if SS flips green i'll follow your plan

if SS flips red I'm shooting my scumread

[skitter30]

a walkie talkie that gives me access to a PT that shiki made

Ah ok, thanks foe clarifying

Have a great weekend everyone!

[skitter30]

I'm assuming she shared most of her thoughts there? Anything od interest to share?

[ssbm_Kyouko]

4 is a lot of guns. With 9 alive, I question the validity of all this. Maybe there are only 3 guns and the 4th gunner is scum fakeclaiming?

I kinda like the idea of limming S_S, if he flips scum, let the gunners do their thing. Probably town!pooky shoots Cephrir here so if Gamma or Ydra shoots Pooky as well I think that's a win.

If S_S flips town, we're down a gun and we shoot in a circle, but we assign Pooky to shoot Gamma because Gamma is the towniest of the 3 and Pooky seems most likely to deviate. Ydra shoots pooky, pooky shoots Gamma, gamma shoots ydra. In this situation Cephrir is cleared because of the FN. If one of these 3 is scum fakeclaiming as a gunner, they wont be able to shoot ceph.

The only way this goes wrong is if all 4 gunners are town. That means the last scum would have to be in [skitter, kyouko, galron, tetrina, and Cephrir]

I know I'm not scum, but I have also hard pushed for Galron's elim, skitter and Galron both pushed hard for my elim. Tetrina I think none of us have pushed so could be a buddy with any of us, but she is consensus TR anyways.

Cephrir also pushed Skitter and Galron I think and skitter maybe pushed Cephrir, but Galron did not? I think there has been enough contention amongst 4 of us 5 that the only viable pairings are those that involve Tetrina, or galron/skitter, or Kyouko/Cephrir. We know I cant be partnered with Cephrir if all the gunners are town, because Cephrir FNed S_S, who is town in this scenario. Skitter and Galron are unlikely to have pushed me as hard as they did as a unit as the last 2 scum I think. Tetrina also cant be scum with Cephrir because of the FN claim.

I think this strategy works. None of the pairings in the 5 make a lot of sense, so there is probably 1 scum in the gunners lying about being gifted a gun, and 1 scum in the players without guns.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

she said kyouko was 85% scum to her.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

she also suspects shutterbug if SS/Enchant are scum/scum

[skitter30]

I think that all 4 of them got guns, i dont think any is lying about it
I do think that there is one scum in/one scum out of the group

Like they could be scum truthfully claiming to have gotten a gun

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

do you even suspect me of being scum? @Kyouko

[ssbm_Kyouko]

do you even suspect me of being scum? @Kyouko

Maybe. I didnt read more overnight but I'm remembering now I really liked that post you made tracking the votes on enchant/S_S wagons. That was the first time I felt you were town for content rather than a vibe this whole game, and with it being at eod it faded overNight. Probably you're not scum, probably it's just S_S, but if S_S is somehow town, one or both of you and Ydra are deepwolfing, without a doubt in my mind

[ssbm_Kyouko]

So I think we lim S_S, if he is red, feel free to shoot me if that's what you want to do. Or lim me then shoot in a full circle of 4 if you want to do that instead. I'm Insurgent with no gifts or backpack stuff so it's not bad to lose me.

Considering the current claims I think the last 2 are either S_S and one of Ceph or Galron, or it's one of you or Ydra with one of the non-gunners, or it's you and Ydra.

[Ydrasse]

if s_s flips town

i'm always shooting pooky

no bueno

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Everyone with a gun was on the Enchant wagon. Not sure how it's significant or if it's correlated at all, but I want to put that out as food for thought

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Ceph and I were also on the wagon but neither of us got guns. Though he did get the FN thing (still need a flavor claim for that FN gift)

[Something_Smart]

Still waiting for Galron, but you are aware that mathematically there's no advantage to executing a person with a gun over having someone shoot them, right? Right now, if every shot goes through, we go down to 3; if a townie with a gun is executed, we go down to 4, with one more person alive who could have been shot, but still only a single execution-- that could turn a win into a loss if town chooses wrong.

Whereas, if scum with a gun is executed, then we go from 3 to 4, with one more person alive who would have been killed by scum and therefore probably isn't getting executed anyway-- not changing much.

This is assuming Galron doesn't have a gun and scum can't mess with the guns, but everyone else seems to be assuming that anyway, and if scum can mess with the guns then all bets are off anyway.

[Cephrir]

Cephrir, what exactly did you receive on N1? How was it described to you - give flavor details if applicable

A diary and stuff to write with. There was some flavor as well, but I'm checking with the mod how much of that I'm allowed to say

[Gamma Emerald]

Considering the current claims I think the last 2 are either S_S and one of Ceph or Galron, or it's one of you or Ydra with one of the non-gunners, or it's you and Ydra.

I need to sort out what I think here myself
It will dictate whether the plan can proceed as hoped

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Still waiting for Galron, but you are aware that mathematically there's no advantage to executing a person with a gun over having someone shoot them, right? Right now, if every shot goes through, we go down to 3; if a townie with a gun is executed, we go down to 4, with one more person alive who could have been shot, but still only a single execution-- that could turn a win into a loss if town chooses wrong.

Whereas, if scum with a gun is executed, then we go from 3 to 4, with one more person alive who would have been killed by scum and therefore probably isn't getting executed anyway-- not changing much.

This is assuming Galron doesn't have a gun and scum can't mess with the guns, but everyone else seems to be assuming that anyway, and if scum can mess with the guns then all bets are off anyway.

i don't trust the guns to work but I trust the rope to work

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Maybe.

pretty hedgy

[Gamma Emerald]

Kyouko I’m willing to do a modified circle shot plan where everyone else circle shoots and I double tap one of them
Response? Since 3534 indicates you don’t really have a solve where I’m scum, this should be fine for you

[Cephrir]

I feel like using the guns as extra elims is better than murdering everyone who got one. Why are we even doing that? Just setup spec?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

circle shooting is dumb

if you think im scum u should shoot me and take responsibility not hide in some plan

[Cephrir]

More flavor: i found my stuff in a package with my name on it near the crash site. Maybe it was there all along oooo spookyyy

[Something_Smart]

i don't trust the guns to work but I trust the rope to work

Well if the guns don't work, then the game won't end, and the rope will work tomorrow.

[Gamma Emerald]

I feel like using the guns as extra elims is better than murdering everyone who got one. Why are we even doing that? Just setup spec?

I also feel this way

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Kyouko I’m willing to do a modified circle shot plan where everyone else circle shoots and I double tap one of them
Response? Since 3534 indicates you don’t really have a solve where I’m scum, this should be fine for you

This is fine by me as well, I think you're towniest of the 4. In a modified circle I would want you double tapping Pooky's target in case he diverts. I'd also want the double tap on S_S as he seems most likely to be scum.

I think this modified circle is strictly worse than eliminating S_S though. I think whatever we do, we should have a plan for both alignments of whatever elim we choose.

Could elim a non-gunner and plan for a double tap performed by the 2 towniest gunners. I think S_S is most likely to be scum, and most likely with Galron or Cephrir. Could lim one of them and double tap the other? Leave the other 2 gunners to their own devices