Mini 2231: Radio Buzz | Game Over!

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Skitter unvoted SS after DGB/Enchant voted for SS making SS at E-1, doesn't feel like a scum unvote, feels like town pumping the brakes because they don't want day to end unexpectedly.

Galron's 3rd vote on Enchant was what made Enchant tied with you in the beginning of the "race"

Him unvoting near the end is probably town!indicative because scum don't bus in prime position and then unvote.

Niether make sense

[Something_Smart]

so why haven't you been pushing either of them?

because I don't push people except under very rare circumstances?

[Cephrir]

scum bus sometimes, especially weirdly!

[Something_Smart]

Skitter unvoted SS after DGB/Enchant voted for SS making SS at E-1, doesn't feel like a scum unvote, feels like town pumping the brakes because they don't want day to end unexpectedly.

Galron's 3rd vote on Enchant was what made Enchant tied with you in the beginning of the "race"

Him unvoting near the end is probably town!indicative because scum don't bus in prime position and then unvote.

Niether make sense

No offense, but this really feels like you're fitting the reasoning to the conclusion you want. I don't know about anyone else but I'm fairly sure I have done both of these things as scum, and you probably have too.

[Galron]

I think i dont understand it, sorry >.>

well let's start here: why do you think the people who have guns have guns?

i think it's obvious what kyouko or i would have done with a gun as of eod2, and if galron is town, i think they would have tried to get one of us to shoot him

How would I know that you had a gun tho? I don't understand.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Skitter unvoted SS after DGB/Enchant voted for SS making SS at E-1, doesn't feel like a scum unvote, feels like town pumping the brakes because they don't want day to end unexpectedly.

Galron's 3rd vote on Enchant was what made Enchant tied with you in the beginning of the "race"

Him unvoting near the end is probably town!indicative because scum don't bus in prime position and then unvote.

Niether make sense

No offense, but this really feels like you're fitting the reasoning to the conclusion you want. I don't know about anyone else but I'm fairly sure I have done both of these things as scum, and you probably have too.

if you want to say I'm wrong about skitter or I'm wrong about galron you should be specific about who I am wrong on and why they are actually scum

[Galron]

I think i dont understand it, sorry >.>

well let's start here: why do you think the people who have guns have guns?

i think it's obvious what kyouko or i would have done with a gun as of eod2, and if galron is town, i think they would have tried to get one of us to shoot him

Ahhhhhhhh ok that makes sense
Ok

This is actually enuf to downgrade my read of him

But i will point out also that a lot of the people who have guns are kinda 'free wheeling' and i think scum couod reasonably expect a whole lotta people to die tonight too

Maybe explain it to me please.

[skitter30]

Ceph/ssbm, if given a gun, would shoot you
If you're scum and had the ability to give out guns, you dont give them to people who might shoot you
They dont have guns

[skitter30]

VOTE: ss

[Galron]

maybe dgb baiting out infinity's claim was a double blessing for scum!skitter or something having an excuse to kill infinity off idk

yeah this has dawned on me as well, and the fact rousseau apparently also was 85% sure skitter was scum right before she died only strengthens that feeling

I think rousseau said this about me in her walkie talkie pt according to Pooky. Idk if she said that about skitter in the main thread eod1, but I dont remember well at this point.

She had mixed feelings about skitter, but improved with skitter's reads list close to end of Day 1 bc she agreed with the reads for the most part. We talked about a couple of skitter's reads, like how gamma had been sliding for her, bc shiki felt the same.

[Something_Smart]

if you want to say I'm wrong about skitter or I'm wrong about galron you should be specific about who I am wrong on and why they are actually scum

I think you might be wrong about skitter, because scum might do what she did.

I think you might be wrong about Galron, because scum might do what he did.

The burden of proof is on you, making the claim that contradicts the prior probabilities.

Not that I think it's likely we'll ever see eye-to-eye here. It's just weird that we've played together so many times and now is the game you decide to pretend that I play exactly the same as you.

[Galron]

if you like those vote counts boy do i have a galron to sell you (he's on enchant and then gets off)

I got off bc of the vt claim. The way he claimed insurgent hit close to home, and I didn't think they'd have their first elim especially not claim a PR.

[skitter30]

Does the shiki pt currently have galron and pooky in it?

[Galron]

Why did you not say this when i was pushing ssbm for similar reasoning

I'm mostly looking at who switched after 1803 which was the point where I nearly died. I could go back and look, but I don't really remember how the momentum was shifting when ssbm switched. It makes ssbm townier for sure, but it doesn't feel like a slam dunk.

I switched to you. Actually I claimed intent on you, although it was premature.

[Galron]

I mean i've been defending him for kost of the game, it should be p easy to create a me/galron team if yoy're looking for it

I dont think you and Galron push me as a unit like you did yesterday if you're teamed. Galron looks to be taking advantage of your push on me which is why I think he's the scum between you two, and the one scum in the 5. You mentioning that scum!Ydra was a revelation to you shows that you were tunneling me yesterday. Scum makes a show of tunneling but is paying attention to the stances others are taking to help figure out who to kill (and probably who to give guns to), but tunneled town is actually mentally tunneled and will miss other things that are going onTechnically Tetrina, if scum, would know Pooky had a gun N2, assuming scum are in control of the guns. However I do think the point someone made that the

way

tetrina claimed her result on Pooky is very towny is a very valid point. So Galron is most likely to be scum amongst the non-gunners I think. The guns went to players unlikely to shoot him.

wtf do you believe that I >don't< have a gun?

[Galron]

I mean, you haven't believed a thing I've said the whole fuckin game and now you belive me when I say I don't have gun?

[Galron]

I think you're town but jfc

[Galron]

I'm really hesitant to try to read into who got the guns, for the same reason that NKA is almost always a fool's errand; there's just too much that goes into these decisions and everyone plays scum differently. (Assuming it was even scum's doing; there's still an outside chance that it was a caller who's not letting on, or it was random or predetermined.)

But, I think the logic that scum were trying to protect Galron seems pretty reasonable, as far as it goes. Or, as Ceph said, it could just be that scum picked predictable people because they're in generally good spots.

And why are scum protecting me exactly? What benefit do they get from doing that?

Wym by scum picked predictable people bc they're in good spots?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

if you want to say I'm wrong about skitter or I'm wrong about galron you should be specific about who I am wrong on and why they are actually scum

I think you might be wrong about skitter, because scum might do what she did.

I think you might be wrong about Galron, because scum might do what he did.

The burden of proof is on you, making the claim that contradicts the prior probabilities.

Not that I think it's likely we'll ever see eye-to-eye here. It's just weird that we've played together so many times and now is the game you decide to pretend that I play exactly the same as you.

you don't sound like you believe either of them are scum

[Something_Smart]

I believe that both of them have a chance to be scum. I don't believe either one is 100% scum. I'm not sure what isn't clear here?

[Galron]

Ceph/ssbm, if given a gun, would shoot you
If you're scum and had the ability to give out guns, you dont give them to people who might shoot you
They dont have guns

Okay. But why would I try to get one of them to shoot me.

[Galron]

Does the shiki pt currently have galron and pooky in it?

yes

[Galron]

I'm a novice comms officer. I inherited all of shiki's stuff.

[Galron]

I'm a novice comms officer. I inherited all of shiki's stuff.

That was because skitte said somthing about mass claiming which is fine with me. I started as a vt -- insurgent and now I'm novice comms person.

[Something_Smart]

What was her stuff?