Open 825 - PYP X/Y: HoS_S [game over!]

[Miss Midnight]

Meh, this conversation is actually going somewhere less salient than I had hoped. So I'll drop it for now.

[PenguinPower]

No. It’s guide a gut feeling. It’s not evidence of anything

If you don't like the word evidence, how about this; behavior is clearly enough to influence you to prefer one wagon over another, no?

Sure. Behavior can influence my feelings and actions but it is by definition not evidence.

[PenguinPower]

Sorry - we can’t all play the way you want us to.

[PenguinPower]

It's only evidence if it's from the evidence region of France. Otherwise, it's just a gut feeling.

This is funny. Ty.

[Miss Midnight]

And @CSF, sure, we can come back to it later.

No. It’s guide a gut feeling. It’s not evidence of anything

If you don't like the word evidence, how about this; behavior is clearly enough to influence you to prefer one wagon over another, no?

Sure. Behavior can influence my feelings and actions but it is by definition not evidence.

It seems to me we have two different definitions of the word "evidence". Again, this isn't a snarky way to say "your definition is wrong", just actually saying that we seem to use it in different ways.

Sorry - we can’t all play the way you want us to.

This has basically no bearing on what we've been talking about I think.

[PenguinPower]

Okay. Bye bye.

[Miss Midnight]

Who's still on the Flea wagon? I don't even stongly townread Flea but I'm not a super fan of that wagon. Would like to hear the reasons why they're there from the people there.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

I thought faer hop onto Gamma was awkward

I feel like fae would've mentioned something about voting the same person as faer top scumread for most of the day (Auro)

General dissatisfaction with the leading wagons

[Miss Midnight]

It seems to me like Flea scum only makes sense if Enchant is also scum, I can't really see Flea scum Enchant town. So again, even without any real townread there I guess I just don't really get the wagon.

[Bee]

*Waves hand.* Me.

I'm not the biggest fan of it either because I don't think it'll /do/ much from what I know of Flea but I feel wishy-washy about the main two wagons ATM and I want to see what happens.

I think wagoning Manatee would bear more fruit right now even if I don't especially think she's scum because she's more reactive and won't dig in her heels which is what I think Flea would do: self-vote or say "kill me go ahead" as fae has done before, especially since fae isn't around ATM. Manatee also promised some isos today which I don't really want so much as in the moment talking to us. It feels like a bit of a cop out and maybe the pressure would help her get more into the game and over the freezing.

(This is me asking if anyone will move to Manatee with me.)

p-edit: That world feels more possible than some tbh.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

It seems to me like Flea scum only makes sense if Enchant is also scum, I can't really see Flea scum Enchant town.

Why? Because Flea hasn't voted for Enchant?

[Gamma Emerald]

That's one way to read his hop onto ManateeGal -- when other people pointed out how much they disliked his push on you, he dropped it.

Eh this is accurate

[PenguinPower]

(This is me asking if anyone will move to Manatee with me.)

Yes.

[PenguinPower]

Still want that vc though.

[Bee]

VOTE: ManateeGal

*Nod.*

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: manatee
Alright.

[Miss Midnight]

*Waves hand.* Me.

I'm not the biggest fan of it either because I don't think it'll /do/ much from what I know of Flea but I feel wishy-washy about the main two wagons ATM and I want to see what happens.

I think wagoning Manatee would bear more fruit right now even if I don't especially think she's scum because she's more reactive and won't dig in her heels which is what I think Flea would do: self-vote or say "kill me go ahead" as fae has done before, especially since fae isn't around ATM. Manatee also promised some isos today which I don't really want so much as in the moment talking to us. It feels like a bit of a cop out and maybe the pressure would help her get more into the game and over the freezing.

(This is me asking if anyone will move to Manatee with me.)

p-edit: That world feels more possible than some tbh.

Mm, I feel like we should be beyond pressure wagons at this point.

[Miss Midnight]

It seems to me like Flea scum only makes sense if Enchant is also scum, I can't really see Flea scum Enchant town.

Why? Because Flea hasn't voted for Enchant?

Basically? Yeah.

[Gamma Emerald]

That feels kinda flimsy
Why do you think Flea wouldn’t bus? How does your read on me factor into that?

[Cat Scratch Fever]

It seems to me like Flea scum only makes sense if Enchant is also scum, I can't really see Flea scum Enchant town.

Why? Because Flea hasn't voted for Enchant?

Basically? Yeah.

It wouldn't matter if both Enchant and Gamma were town, would it?

[the worst]

We can have sushi.

i'm in.

[Bee]

*Waves hand.* Me.

I'm not the biggest fan of it either because I don't think it'll /do/ much from what I know of Flea but I feel wishy-washy about the main two wagons ATM and I want to see what happens.

I think wagoning Manatee would bear more fruit right now even if I don't especially think she's scum because she's more reactive and won't dig in her heels which is what I think Flea would do: self-vote or say "kill me go ahead" as fae has done before, especially since fae isn't around ATM. Manatee also promised some isos today which I don't really want so much as in the moment talking to us. It feels like a bit of a cop out and maybe the pressure would help her get more into the game and over the freezing.

(This is me asking if anyone will move to Manatee with me.)

p-edit: That world feels more possible than some tbh.

Mm, I feel like we should be beyond pressure wagons at this point.

I disagree in the case of Manatee. Having a way to get her back into the game and being reminded of why I TR her potentially is useful for me at least. Worst case Manatee's frozen still and I return to one of the big two and see if people are willing to let them build up again.

[Bee]

PLEASE STOP TALKING ABOUT SUSHI. ;_;

[the worst]

It's only evidence if it's from the evidence region of France. Otherwise, it's just a gut feeling.

i've missed you.

[PenguinPower]

ngl…I really did have homemade sushi for dinner tonight.