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Post Post #675 (ISO) » Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:34 am

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In post 661, marcistar wrote:
In post , ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
It seems like this Toog thing is real for some reason though so I guess I'll have to look at that, as well as Cabd/Luke/Marci. There's something there too I think.
what makes u think theres something here?
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I think Dunn is town, got a good vibe from an early post,
which post did u like?
It's one of the only things I remembered from my skim, that Cabd was saying there was scum between Luke and Marci. I didnt see that when I skimmed so it was something for me to check on while rereading.

28, 35, 115, 122, 351 are all posts I liked. Dunn's talking a lot for Dunn I feel like, and it reminds me of town!him in Open 820, Siege of Aurelia
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Post Post #676 (ISO) » Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:35 am

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I'm all for players being wrong. It happens to everyone. I'm not down for cliques or fear-mongering.

@marci, I don't care what I look like to other people. I never have. So I think you confused my quote. To clarify it, due to my limited spurts of play time, I skim through the thread if there have many many posts, and then I try to make sure I reply to people who ask me something.
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Post Post #677 (ISO) » Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:36 am

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My interpretation of the conflict between you two (Rhi and Kate) is that Kate feels righteous in not being scumread because they are town. Obviously, this can be faked, so you want to prod them further. Kate shuts this down by affirming it's
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Post Post #678 (ISO) » Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:39 am

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In post 673, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:devil's bargain
In fairness, last time this happened was the Unwnd Large?
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Post Post #679 (ISO) » Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:39 am

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In post 677, unwnd wrote:My interpretation of the conflict between you two (Rhi and Kate) is that Kate feels righteous in not being scumread because they are town. Obviously, this can be faked, so you want to prod them further. Kate shuts this down by affirming it's
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who has the responsibility to read them right, therefore they don't have to change anything. This leaves you frustrated and antagonized.
This is mostly accurate, though I need to add that in the process of feeling righteous in not being scumread, the post they made implied that I was simply too stupid to understand how town they were, and that they would obviously be night killed this game for how townie they are, and that they need to laugh at me for indeed thinking such a foolish thing as them being scum.

That's what bothered me.
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Post Post #680 (ISO) » Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:39 am

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In post 675, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Cabd was saying there was scum between Luke and Marci
I don't recall saying this actually?
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Post Post #681 (ISO) » Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:40 am

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I think their haughtiness (esp for Notty) bodes well for them being town. It's a shallow read but given that I was able to get a beat onto Notty eventually like Bloodstained, I'm OK with it. What do you exactly scumread? Their attitude, or the fact you are in contention with their reads? I skimmed a bit of your wall and rest assured I skim a lot of walls and just pick out details that seem important to me.
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Post Post #682 (ISO) » Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:40 am

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In post 678, Cabd wrote:
In post 673, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:devil's bargain
In fairness, last time this happened was the Unwnd Large?
Which game was this? I'm not sure I've ever had a deal with you like this?
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Post Post #683 (ISO) » Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:41 am

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Which of you played in yggdrassil?
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Post Post #684 (ISO) » Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:41 am

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In post 681, unwnd wrote:I think their haughtiness (esp for Notty) bodes well for them being town. It's a shallow read but given that I was able to get a beat onto Notty eventually like Bloodstained, I'm OK with it. What do you exactly scumread? Their attitude, or the fact you are in contention with their reads? I skimmed a bit of your wall and rest assured I skim a lot of walls and just pick out details that seem important to me.
I'm concerned that you think any of my posts in this game have been walls, Unwnd.

I made two different posts detailing my reasons for scumreading them, including one on the last page. Reading is tech, Unwnd.
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Post Post #685 (ISO) » Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:42 am

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In post 674, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 672, GuyInFreezer wrote:
In post 670, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:"You know, Rhi, Fferyslot just becomes obvious town eventually, so you're in the wrong"
If this was about my post, I merely meant that I wasn’t interested in discerning her alignment this early.
I am not scumreading her atm but I am not townreading her either.

Basically putting it on hold rather than handwaving.
And for what reason are you putting it on hold, if not that you feel "Ffery+Notsci will become obvious X later".
I do think it will be more obvious later. What I’m trying to say is that I’m not going “lol they can obvtown so idc what you think of that slot” but rather going “I saw your points but I’m gonna put on hold on giving read on that slot when it will be easier to read her as time passes.”
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Post Post #686 (ISO) » Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:43 am

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In post 684, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 681, unwnd wrote:I think their haughtiness (esp for Notty) bodes well for them being town. It's a shallow read but given that I was able to get a beat onto Notty eventually like Bloodstained, I'm OK with it. What do you exactly scumread? Their attitude, or the fact you are in contention with their reads? I skimmed a bit of your wall and rest assured I skim a lot of walls and just pick out details that seem important to me.
I'm concerned that you think any of my posts in this game have been walls, Unwnd.

I made two different posts detailing my reasons for scumreading them, including one on the last page. Reading is tech, Unwnd.
Some of them are decently long

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Post Post #687 (ISO) » Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:45 am

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Just so you know Rhi one of your reads I really agree with but haha I'm just not dynamic this game nosiree
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Post Post #688 (ISO) » Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:45 am

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In post 683, Cabd wrote:Which of you played in yggdrassil?
My attempts to remember this game leave blanks so certainly not me. My money is on Niamh, I think.
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Post Post #689 (ISO) » Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:46 am

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Okay yeah so it wasn't you, but she did something similar in a game not too long ago!

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12793780
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Post Post #690 (ISO) » Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:46 am

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In post 687, unwnd wrote:Just so you know Rhi one of your reads I really agree with but haha I'm just not dynamic this game nosiree
Did I ever say you were not dynamic? I've called you polarizing, but that's on a read perspective that others should have stronger reads on you.
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Post Post #691 (ISO) » Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:47 am

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In post 689, Cabd wrote:Okay yeah so it wasn't you, but she did something similar in a game not too long ago!

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12793780
One look at that posting has convinced me 100% that game was Niamh. "Clownfuck central". God.
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Post Post #692 (ISO) » Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:48 am

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(she was scum and I was town so it made me laugh when you used the term devil's bargain)
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Post Post #693 (ISO) » Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:48 am

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I agree with you but I don't think Kate specifically is weird for having me at null

I know ffery has a hard time getting over things, and I imagine Fortress still is relevant in her mind
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Post Post #694 (ISO) » Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:49 am

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Though if I were being flagrantly speaking on myself

There is a good chunk of people who mislimmed in Bloodstained. You know, just outright fucking murdered me. Left me shitting myself post-coitus. so I think they should have a decent grasp on what I look like as town by now!!!
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Post Post #695 (ISO) » Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:51 am

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I said post-coitus because you guys fucked me.

That's the joke.
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Post Post #696 (ISO) » Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:52 am

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Man ider when was the last time I got mislimmed
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Post Post #697 (ISO) » Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:52 am

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Post Post #698 (ISO) » Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:54 am

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The issue is that LLD is a very hot personality, and many people don't respond well to it. I'm personally just waiting for her bloodlust to find a new change in the winds if I'm so lucky, but generally hot personalities are difficult to engage with for me because I myself have a no fucks given personality, but it's passive and not aggressive.

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On a reread of GiF's iso, I am moving them up to my strongest town read. I like how they are engaging the various players and not sticking to one hot topic.

The general vibe I'm getting from a cast majority of the player base however is that they are itching for a night phase without causing much of a commotion so that they can use their night actions.

The one player I am most concerned about is Manatee because given their role, I would have figured they would be more engaging so they can formulate a strategy or work with other players. Instead, their focus is on page tops and I worry they might snipe a random player with their double vote. I'm still not even sure what to make of the role. It seems a little "strong," in a 13 player game if they are being 100% truthful in it's specifics. However, it would have been far too easy if they could legit park a second vote on someone without having told us ahead of time of the repercussions and rode out the Double Voter claim.
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Post Post #699 (ISO) » Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:55 am

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Too many damn posts.
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