Mini 2228: Isekai uPick - Endgame

[Lady Lambdadelta]

(she was scum and I was town so it made me laugh when you used the term devil's bargain)

I see. Do you want to continue?

[unwnd]

That's just how games are now Toog

Geriatric style would be nice but mod doesn't agree so I'm gonna keep it rolling

[Cabd]

I see. Do you want to continue?

I offered knowing this!

[GuyInFreezer]

How to become universal townread with bare minimum effort
- GIF

[Cabd]

Spoiler: The Hood PT for LLD and Cabd, no Kates allowed

So yeah, I totally get where you're coming from WRT the high strung how dare yous. It cost us the game, somewhat, in that one I refuse to acknowledge, because Bell was soooooo smug about being town and having a notsci town tell that he got completely ridden over by a tiny bit of effort to leave the scum range from notsci.

I did like the reaction to some nuggets of knowledge I handed out to ffery. I feel like her townbinning me "for now" is a over-correction to how terribly ~bastardgamegrrrhere~ went and that it will probably mean-revert to a happy medium. In some ways the early and eager townbinning of me WOULD be alarming if not for that context.

They are not "out of ranges" by any means. And being smug about their current body of work is not warranted. I have gotten the feeling the smugness is more that they feel they can be smug about their ability to get more townread over time, though.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Spoiler: The Hood PT for LLD and Cabd, no Kates allowed

So yeah, I totally get where you're coming from WRT the high strung how dare yous. It cost us the game, somewhat, in that one I refuse to acknowledge, because Bell was soooooo smug about being town and having a notsci town tell that he got completely ridden over by a tiny bit of effort to leave the scum range from notsci.

I did like the reaction to some nuggets of knowledge I handed out to ffery. I feel like her townbinning me "for now" is a over-correction to how terribly ~bastardgamegrrrhere~ went and that it will probably mean-revert to a happy medium. In some ways the early and eager townbinning of me WOULD be alarming if not for that context.

They are not "out of ranges" by any means. And being smug about their current body of work is not warranted. I have gotten the feeling the smugness is more that they feel they can be smug about their ability to get more townread over time, though.

Spoiler:

This tracks for me, and as I've mentioned I've just got no interest in pursuing them today, not at the moment at least.

As I brought up though, I felt them daring me to vote them was partially that arrogant confidence and partially them knowing that if I did it would derail the push all together. It feels like every time I look at them I can see scum motivation in the actions that is saddled beside arrogant confidence in their ability to be read as town.

If I approach in good faith, I feel like I have to find them scum. Because the only way I find them town is if I approach in bad faith and start assuming they're being like this for the reasons you've described. It's part of what bothers me, because I'd like to stay in good faith?

[Cabd]

Spoiler: The Hood PT for LLD and Cabd, no Kates allowed

So yeah, I totally get where you're coming from WRT the high strung how dare yous. It cost us the game, somewhat, in that one I refuse to acknowledge, because Bell was soooooo smug about being town and having a notsci town tell that he got completely ridden over by a tiny bit of effort to leave the scum range from notsci.

I did like the reaction to some nuggets of knowledge I handed out to ffery. I feel like her townbinning me "for now" is a over-correction to how terribly ~bastardgamegrrrhere~ went and that it will probably mean-revert to a happy medium. In some ways the early and eager townbinning of me WOULD be alarming if not for that context.

They are not "out of ranges" by any means. And being smug about their current body of work is not warranted. I have gotten the feeling the smugness is more that they feel they can be smug about their ability to get more townread over time, though.

Spoiler:

This tracks for me, and as I've mentioned I've just got no interest in pursuing them today, not at the moment at least.

As I brought up though, I felt them daring me to vote them was partially that arrogant confidence and partially them knowing that if I did it would derail the push all together. It feels like every time I look at them I can see scum motivation in the actions that is saddled beside arrogant confidence in their ability to be read as town.

If I approach in good faith, I feel like I have to find them scum. Because the only way I find them town is if I approach in bad faith and start assuming they're being like this for the reasons you've described. It's part of what bothers me, because I'd like to stay in good faith?

Spoiler: Moar

But first, more blatant emotional processing stuff....

I literally fist pumped when I saw the mechanical part of your claim in that it makes you town but then I put two and two together about your literal favorite isekeai character and it was a chain reaction of the grin dropping from my face into horror when I realized the implications. Generally speaking people pick who they pick in a upick game to have their favorite character done justice. I can't speak for the mod himself as I don't live in his head, but I'm SPECULATING that no research was done besides watching the first few episodes of the anime where Katria shows up. <end>

Right now, you still want Toog to die a death, yes? What do you make of WhemeStar's reaction to Marci's posting, and do you want to talk more about marci herself? She might be an important read this game for several reasons.

[marcistar]

LLD CAN I PLEASE VOTE MARCISTAR

the sky has opened up and told me this is a sign..
why r u so excited to vote me?

Cute flat lass? Fluffy?

yeah..?

@marci, I don't care what I look like to other people. I never have. So I think you confused my quote. To clarify it, due to my limited spurts of play time, I skim through the thread if there have many many posts, and then I try to make sure I reply to people who ask me something.

ohh ahh i originally thought u were looking out so u could try to please whoever scumread u, but ill keep this in mind.

[Cabd]

KATEEEEEEEEEEEE your nugget just grew into an entire bag of Kirkland ready to eat frozen meals.

[GuyInFreezer]

ohh ahh i originally thought u were looking out so u could try to please whoever scumread u, but ill keep this in mind.

Just curious but which posts of his made you think that way?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Spoiler: The Hood PT for LLD and Cabd, no Kates allowed

So yeah, I totally get where you're coming from WRT the high strung how dare yous. It cost us the game, somewhat, in that one I refuse to acknowledge, because Bell was soooooo smug about being town and having a notsci town tell that he got completely ridden over by a tiny bit of effort to leave the scum range from notsci.

I did like the reaction to some nuggets of knowledge I handed out to ffery. I feel like her townbinning me "for now" is a over-correction to how terribly ~bastardgamegrrrhere~ went and that it will probably mean-revert to a happy medium. In some ways the early and eager townbinning of me WOULD be alarming if not for that context.

They are not "out of ranges" by any means. And being smug about their current body of work is not warranted. I have gotten the feeling the smugness is more that they feel they can be smug about their ability to get more townread over time, though.

Spoiler:

This tracks for me, and as I've mentioned I've just got no interest in pursuing them today, not at the moment at least.

As I brought up though, I felt them daring me to vote them was partially that arrogant confidence and partially them knowing that if I did it would derail the push all together. It feels like every time I look at them I can see scum motivation in the actions that is saddled beside arrogant confidence in their ability to be read as town.

If I approach in good faith, I feel like I have to find them scum. Because the only way I find them town is if I approach in bad faith and start assuming they're being like this for the reasons you've described. It's part of what bothers me, because I'd like to stay in good faith?

Spoiler: Moar

But first, more blatant emotional processing stuff....

I literally fist pumped when I saw the mechanical part of your claim in that it makes you town but then I put two and two together about your literal favorite isekeai character and it was a chain reaction of the grin dropping from my face into horror when I realized the implications. Generally speaking people pick who they pick in a upick game to have their favorite character done justice. I can't speak for the mod himself as I don't live in his head, but I'm SPECULATING that no research was done besides watching the first few episodes of the anime where Katria shows up. <end>

Right now, you still want Toog to die a death, yes? What do you make of WhemeStar's reaction to Marci's posting, and do you want to talk more about marci herself? She might be an important read this game for several reasons.

Spoiler:

I want Toog to full claim and not this half claim garbage, or die. Toog is sufficiently suspicious that this "i have a confirmable role" nonsense is worrying.

What I think it might mean is Toog has a rolecop. Which I don't think it particularly town. Infact I have a hard time thinking of a "confirmable" role that is indeed townie for Toog in this perspective. But especially the half claim that was done was very bad.

I think Wheme's zeal is kind of weird, but I think explicitly asking me if they can vote Marci codes town for me. I just think it's a very realistic trajectory for them.

Marci... Talk to me about Marci because this intimidation factor has me concerned people might read it as scum when it's an easy person to kill, but I don't have a strong town read there by any means.

Also, yes. It's a lot more than just a shame about our role but we're trying not to make JJH feel too bad about it.

[Cabd]

Spoiler: The Hood PT for LLD and Cabd, no Kates allowed

So yeah, I totally get where you're coming from WRT the high strung how dare yous. It cost us the game, somewhat, in that one I refuse to acknowledge, because Bell was soooooo smug about being town and having a notsci town tell that he got completely ridden over by a tiny bit of effort to leave the scum range from notsci.

I did like the reaction to some nuggets of knowledge I handed out to ffery. I feel like her townbinning me "for now" is a over-correction to how terribly ~bastardgamegrrrhere~ went and that it will probably mean-revert to a happy medium. In some ways the early and eager townbinning of me WOULD be alarming if not for that context.

They are not "out of ranges" by any means. And being smug about their current body of work is not warranted. I have gotten the feeling the smugness is more that they feel they can be smug about their ability to get more townread over time, though.

Spoiler:

This tracks for me, and as I've mentioned I've just got no interest in pursuing them today, not at the moment at least.

As I brought up though, I felt them daring me to vote them was partially that arrogant confidence and partially them knowing that if I did it would derail the push all together. It feels like every time I look at them I can see scum motivation in the actions that is saddled beside arrogant confidence in their ability to be read as town.

If I approach in good faith, I feel like I have to find them scum. Because the only way I find them town is if I approach in bad faith and start assuming they're being like this for the reasons you've described. It's part of what bothers me, because I'd like to stay in good faith?

Spoiler: Moar

But first, more blatant emotional processing stuff....

I literally fist pumped when I saw the mechanical part of your claim in that it makes you town but then I put two and two together about your literal favorite isekeai character and it was a chain reaction of the grin dropping from my face into horror when I realized the implications. Generally speaking people pick who they pick in a upick game to have their favorite character done justice. I can't speak for the mod himself as I don't live in his head, but I'm SPECULATING that no research was done besides watching the first few episodes of the anime where Katria shows up. <end>

Right now, you still want Toog to die a death, yes? What do you make of WhemeStar's reaction to Marci's posting, and do you want to talk more about marci herself? She might be an important read this game for several reasons.

Spoiler:

I want Toog to full claim and not this half claim garbage, or die. Toog is sufficiently suspicious that this "i have a confirmable role" nonsense is worrying.

What I think it might mean is Toog has a rolecop. Which I don't think it particularly town. Infact I have a hard time thinking of a "confirmable" role that is indeed townie for Toog in this perspective. But especially the half claim that was done was very bad.

I think Wheme's zeal is kind of weird, but I think explicitly asking me if they can vote Marci codes town for me. I just think it's a very realistic trajectory for them.

Marci... Talk to me about Marci because this intimidation factor has me concerned people might read it as scum when it's an easy person to kill, but I don't have a strong town read there by any means.

Also, yes. It's a lot more than just a shame about our role but we're trying not to make JJH feel too bad about it.

Spoiler: MOAR of MOAR

In general I think this game should be played like it's smalltown, as I mentioned earlier, because EVERY role is confirm-able in some way is the feeling I've gotten. I think unwnd mentioned this as well about treating it like all vanilla.

Setting aside Toog, I think that Marci is one of my strongest townreads here, and I didn't expect that but sometimes RNJESUS comes at you fast, just like life. As for why, up until this afternoon, I'd have said because she is nervous but trying her best anyways and not crumpling like a wet cardboard sheet that was first soaked in cat urine. You were not in Tarot, but like.... I caught scum-her and we speed-limmed her in the first two hours of day one, before half the game thread even got to check in and make a single post.

Now? Now I've got that reason AND more that I don't want to get into yet.... although I believe the Kate Bishop slot will know and see what I saw WRT my softs. And how we go from here is going to be important.

I actually expect that the Kate folks will want to square reads lists somewhat soon, in some ways I'm shocked that mine wasn't demanded before theirs was freely given.

[Toogeloo]

I want Toog to full claim and not this half claim garbage, or die.

Well then die it is. My full claim on Day 1, 18 hours in is more damaging to my game. Sorry, not sorry.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I want Toog to full claim and not this half claim garbage, or die.

Well then die it is. My full claim on Day 1, 18 hours in is more damaging to my game. Sorry, not sorry.

Die it is, then!

[Toogeloo]

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Spoiler: The Hood PT for LLD and Cabd, no Kates allowed

So yeah, I totally get where you're coming from WRT the high strung how dare yous. It cost us the game, somewhat, in that one I refuse to acknowledge, because Bell was soooooo smug about being town and having a notsci town tell that he got completely ridden over by a tiny bit of effort to leave the scum range from notsci.

I did like the reaction to some nuggets of knowledge I handed out to ffery. I feel like her townbinning me "for now" is a over-correction to how terribly ~bastardgamegrrrhere~ went and that it will probably mean-revert to a happy medium. In some ways the early and eager townbinning of me WOULD be alarming if not for that context.

They are not "out of ranges" by any means. And being smug about their current body of work is not warranted. I have gotten the feeling the smugness is more that they feel they can be smug about their ability to get more townread over time, though.

Spoiler:

This tracks for me, and as I've mentioned I've just got no interest in pursuing them today, not at the moment at least.

As I brought up though, I felt them daring me to vote them was partially that arrogant confidence and partially them knowing that if I did it would derail the push all together. It feels like every time I look at them I can see scum motivation in the actions that is saddled beside arrogant confidence in their ability to be read as town.

If I approach in good faith, I feel like I have to find them scum. Because the only way I find them town is if I approach in bad faith and start assuming they're being like this for the reasons you've described. It's part of what bothers me, because I'd like to stay in good faith?

Spoiler: Moar

But first, more blatant emotional processing stuff....

I literally fist pumped when I saw the mechanical part of your claim in that it makes you town but then I put two and two together about your literal favorite isekeai character and it was a chain reaction of the grin dropping from my face into horror when I realized the implications. Generally speaking people pick who they pick in a upick game to have their favorite character done justice. I can't speak for the mod himself as I don't live in his head, but I'm SPECULATING that no research was done besides watching the first few episodes of the anime where Katria shows up. <end>

Right now, you still want Toog to die a death, yes? What do you make of WhemeStar's reaction to Marci's posting, and do you want to talk more about marci herself? She might be an important read this game for several reasons.

Spoiler:

I want Toog to full claim and not this half claim garbage, or die. Toog is sufficiently suspicious that this "i have a confirmable role" nonsense is worrying.

What I think it might mean is Toog has a rolecop. Which I don't think it particularly town. Infact I have a hard time thinking of a "confirmable" role that is indeed townie for Toog in this perspective. But especially the half claim that was done was very bad.

I think Wheme's zeal is kind of weird, but I think explicitly asking me if they can vote Marci codes town for me. I just think it's a very realistic trajectory for them.

Marci... Talk to me about Marci because this intimidation factor has me concerned people might read it as scum when it's an easy person to kill, but I don't have a strong town read there by any means.

Also, yes. It's a lot more than just a shame about our role but we're trying not to make JJH feel too bad about it.

Spoiler: MOAR of MOAR

In general I think this game should be played like it's smalltown, as I mentioned earlier, because EVERY role is confirm-able in some way is the feeling I've gotten. I think unwnd mentioned this as well about treating it like all vanilla.

Setting aside Toog, I think that Marci is one of my strongest townreads here, and I didn't expect that but sometimes RNJESUS comes at you fast, just like life. As for why, up until this afternoon, I'd have said because she is nervous but trying her best anyways and not crumpling like a wet cardboard sheet that was first soaked in cat urine. You were not in Tarot, but like.... I caught scum-her and we speed-limmed her in the first two hours of day one, before half the game thread even got to check in and make a single post.

Now? Now I've got that reason AND more that I don't want to get into yet.... although I believe the Kate Bishop slot will know and see what I saw WRT my softs. And how we go from here is going to be important.

I actually expect that the Kate folks will want to square reads lists somewhat soon, in some ways I'm shocked that mine wasn't demanded before theirs was freely given.

That confident?

[Cabd]

Spoiler: The Hood PT for LLD and Cabd, no Kates allowed

So yeah, I totally get where you're coming from WRT the high strung how dare yous. It cost us the game, somewhat, in that one I refuse to acknowledge, because Bell was soooooo smug about being town and having a notsci town tell that he got completely ridden over by a tiny bit of effort to leave the scum range from notsci.

I did like the reaction to some nuggets of knowledge I handed out to ffery. I feel like her townbinning me "for now" is a over-correction to how terribly ~bastardgamegrrrhere~ went and that it will probably mean-revert to a happy medium. In some ways the early and eager townbinning of me WOULD be alarming if not for that context.

They are not "out of ranges" by any means. And being smug about their current body of work is not warranted. I have gotten the feeling the smugness is more that they feel they can be smug about their ability to get more townread over time, though.

Spoiler:

This tracks for me, and as I've mentioned I've just got no interest in pursuing them today, not at the moment at least.

As I brought up though, I felt them daring me to vote them was partially that arrogant confidence and partially them knowing that if I did it would derail the push all together. It feels like every time I look at them I can see scum motivation in the actions that is saddled beside arrogant confidence in their ability to be read as town.

If I approach in good faith, I feel like I have to find them scum. Because the only way I find them town is if I approach in bad faith and start assuming they're being like this for the reasons you've described. It's part of what bothers me, because I'd like to stay in good faith?

Spoiler: Moar

But first, more blatant emotional processing stuff....

I literally fist pumped when I saw the mechanical part of your claim in that it makes you town but then I put two and two together about your literal favorite isekeai character and it was a chain reaction of the grin dropping from my face into horror when I realized the implications. Generally speaking people pick who they pick in a upick game to have their favorite character done justice. I can't speak for the mod himself as I don't live in his head, but I'm SPECULATING that no research was done besides watching the first few episodes of the anime where Katria shows up. <end>

Right now, you still want Toog to die a death, yes? What do you make of WhemeStar's reaction to Marci's posting, and do you want to talk more about marci herself? She might be an important read this game for several reasons.

Spoiler:

I want Toog to full claim and not this half claim garbage, or die. Toog is sufficiently suspicious that this "i have a confirmable role" nonsense is worrying.

What I think it might mean is Toog has a rolecop. Which I don't think it particularly town. Infact I have a hard time thinking of a "confirmable" role that is indeed townie for Toog in this perspective. But especially the half claim that was done was very bad.

I think Wheme's zeal is kind of weird, but I think explicitly asking me if they can vote Marci codes town for me. I just think it's a very realistic trajectory for them.

Marci... Talk to me about Marci because this intimidation factor has me concerned people might read it as scum when it's an easy person to kill, but I don't have a strong town read there by any means.

Also, yes. It's a lot more than just a shame about our role but we're trying not to make JJH feel too bad about it.

Spoiler: MOAR of MOAR

In general I think this game should be played like it's smalltown, as I mentioned earlier, because EVERY role is confirm-able in some way is the feeling I've gotten. I think unwnd mentioned this as well about treating it like all vanilla.

Setting aside Toog, I think that Marci is one of my strongest townreads here, and I didn't expect that but sometimes RNJESUS comes at you fast, just like life. As for why, up until this afternoon, I'd have said because she is nervous but trying her best anyways and not crumpling like a wet cardboard sheet that was first soaked in cat urine. You were not in Tarot, but like.... I caught scum-her and we speed-limmed her in the first two hours of day one, before half the game thread even got to check in and make a single post.

Now? Now I've got that reason AND more that I don't want to get into yet.... although I believe the Kate Bishop slot will know and see what I saw WRT my softs. And how we go from here is going to be important.

I actually expect that the Kate folks will want to square reads lists somewhat soon, in some ways I'm shocked that mine wasn't demanded before theirs was freely given.

That confident?

Spoiler:

If it is what I think it is? More so than my read of anyone else, even you.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

That's a lot to read into a maybe, Cabd.

[Cabd]

That's a lot to read into a maybe, Cabd.

I've only had this read for five minutes.

But if anything ever happened to her, I'd kill everyone in this room, and then myself.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

That's a lot to read into a maybe, Cabd.

I've only had this read for five minutes.

But if anything ever happened to her, I'd kill everyone in this room, and then myself.

Hilarious.

But Marci town really pushes a specific townread on mine into Questionable, though.

[Cabd]

Do you like, want to talk about it? Or is this one of those twilight zone twist endings where it's me all along?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Do you like, want to talk about it? Or is this one of those twilight zone twist endings where it's me all along?

I'm not sure I want to talk about it because it's "questionable" and not "scum" and I have bigger fish, but it's not you.

[DrippingGoofball]

That's just how games are now Toog

Geriatric style would be nice but mod doesn't agree so I'm gonna keep it rolling

What is geriatric style? I feel I should be the designated trendsetter for this.

[Cabd]

Cool, we can apply a "bucket" tag and move on, then.

It's actually food tell time.

Potato lemon logs and burgers!

[Cabd]

That's just how games are now Toog

Geriatric style would be nice but mod doesn't agree so I'm gonna keep it rolling

What is geriatric style? I feel I should be the designated trendsetter for this.

Geriatric_Ruleset