Mini 2228: Isekai uPick - Endgame

[jjh927]

VC1.6

Player	Votes	Voters
Toogeloo	5	Dunnstral, Lady Lambdadelta, Lukewarm, Cabd, WhemeStar
Whemestar	2	ssbm_Kyouko, unwnd
ManateeGal	1	DrippingGoofball
Lukewarm	1	Kate Bishop
DrippingGoofball	1	ManateeGal
Not Voting	---	Toogeloo, marcistar, GuyInFreezer

Ah yes, what if we did a Sengoku period isekai but all the major figures were replaced by anime girls?

With 13 alive it takes 7 to eliminate.
The day will end in (expired on 2021-09-15 16:00:00), or when an elimination is achieved.

[DrippingGoofball]

Last that was heard they wanted to use it to hammer and shoot somebody at night, but using it during the day seems better

Since you understand how it works, can you explain it to me?

If their second vote is on wagon, they gain a one-shot vigilante for that night
If their second vote is off wagon, that player dies at the end of the day along with the original elimination

If their second vote is on nobody, a random

town-aligned

player dies

Once they place their second vote, it can't be moved during that same day

That's how I understand it

She can decimate the town as we impotently watch.

[DrippingGoofball]

Spoiler:

We need to talk Manatee about your progression on this DGB read.

i think toogelo is town in terms of their response to the push on them

my brain is tending to sort marci, cab, lld as town

i think luke/unwnd interactions indicate t/t. my immedeate reaction to unwnd pushing on the medium of lukes role is a townlean. i think lukes explanation was odd, but sensical enough to understand and credit.

DGB's vote on me is shit

i really like lukes dgb post and am struggling 2 scumread his entry or even perceive at his forced? is there a specific post being talked abt

VOTE: DrippingGoofBall

Manatee tell me who you would make your 2nd vote on. You're being used as a tool right now but you still have thoughts

I feel as if I am not hearing them

hmmmm. my brain kinda stops after dgb as my target today.

I do know i have at least decent townreads on the other potential targets which is causing a bit of a mental block w/me. ive not been a fan of the kate bishop slot, which i need to re-examine at some point to flesh out (maybe later today?). if the day was to end in a few minutes f

rom now i'd probably place my second vote on dgb.

it's iso is pretty much a contentless jumble of shade that feels overly focused on my role and joking instead of genuine statements. the rest of it's statements have been similarily shallow

Man, Unwnd, who is your top scumread right now? Who are your top 2 town reads rn? Whose reads do you trust the most right now?

am i man? im answering anyways. DGB is my top scumread for aforementioned reasons.

My top two townreads lie in you and unwnd. Ive liked pretty much everything youve had to say so far, even if i disagree (see:toog) and overall youve made yourself pretty easy to hold high in my books. Unwnd I am less of a fan of content-wise, but i think their interaction w luke was very likely town, and i mirror that thought process in their attempts to engage and have me produce content, which scum totally does not need.

im agreeing with a lot of what luke is saying so id put him as the reads im most trusting of

im pretty set on killing dgb atm

you'd have to convince me

You're not convinced?

not like im convinced w dgb

Manatee wants me dead because I am the only player who is willing to do what town needs to do, which is to QUESTION Manatee's alignment. Her reflex OMGUS vote, massive tunnel and closed mind to re-evaluating her position is exquisitely and perfectly

survavilistic

. How am I the only one to see this?

Manatee could be scum, but I'm thinking more along the lines of third party BS. At the very least, we should discuss it. Sure I could do like everyone else, shut my big trap and kiss ass, but someone needs to ask the questions that must be asked.

Now why, as scum, or as Manatee's buddy, would I risk my own gamelife doing this? Why would i, as scum, stick my neck out and go

whoa whoa whoa here

to the maniac brandishing the vig assault weapon? Why, as scum, am I not being obsequious to Manatee like the overwhelming majority of players? Why I am not ingratiating myself with her so that I could try to influence her to vig a player I would know to be townie?

Please put your thinking hats on.

[DrippingGoofball]

If their second vote is on nobody, a random

town-aligned

player dies

[ssbm_Kyouko]

This is my opinion of the setup.

idk man, my role doesn't belong with those 4, so maybe just the really weird ones are getting claimed

[DrippingGoofball]

I am 100% certain that Manatee will kill me. She will not change her mind. LLD will not change her mind either - she never does. WhemeStar made the fateful decision to sheep every one of LLD's bad reads. Lukewarm's head is stuck in a death tunnel against me. All the "arguments" against me belong in a burning landfill. I am not reading the posts in proper order? Just kill me. Townies always read every post fully and in chronological order. Scum bounce back and forth! Geniuses.

You all are a bunch of worthless negative utility roles. Go ahead and kill me. Make my day. Hang your heads in shame for the remainder of the game while I shake my mine with pursed lips of disapproval in the dead thread.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Maybe death is the other world and in order to play the real game you need to get there

spooky - maybe Manatee's alternate kill ability sends people to that world? Maybe someone in this game has a role that can commune with that world? I'd be willing to accept the possibility of a second thread representing the new world, but I think we're in the "real game" right now. If this isn't the real game I feel like the game should have been classified as bastard and it wasn't (though it was said this could be "lolbalanced" so )

[ssbm_Kyouko]

no votes while we think on this.

not everyone's been online to even see this claim.

I see it now. I haven't seen the show but flavor-wise as a character representing Satan I think the whole "I get more powerful as town dies" is plausible. No way to tell if he's actually going to unlock the specific roles he claimed though. I do feel like if I had that role I wouldn't call it confirmable in the way he did - there would be no way to know when it could be confirmed and that would get you into hot water later... like now(?)

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Cabd if you don't see this flash of NQN right now you're scum.

What is NQN?

Also Luke and Dunn shrekt Toog on that last page, think it's ogre for him but haven't seem how he responds to Dunn's accusation about "if he didn't read the past 20 pages why is he scumreading Luke"

Spoiler: joke

I submitted Donkey from Shrek and the mod also told me that wasn't an isekai /s

[ssbm_Kyouko]

You know, for someone who has been out of the thread for over 12 hours and 600 posts, you sure did happen to land on the exact posts you needed to make a point just now huh?

boom

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Or are you only interested in pointing out the people you think you can discredit?

Yes. I am looking at people whose reads don't feel natural or sincere. Yours is the worst because I read it like a

conclusion in search of reasons

.

I find it strange that Kyouko's read is "secret" - I am catching up and I haven't gotten there yet.

My read isn't secret, that's GiF I think that has a secret 5th tinfoil read he'll unveil if he comes back from wherever he's going toNight. GiF also had a secret fourth

meal

read that at this point I think he did out because he had a POE of 4 not too long ago.

[Cabd]

Wtf so many pages.

I get ONE decent ish night of sleep and this is my payment.


Well then.

Catching up mobile. About to be daughter breakfast time here.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Manatee's problem this game is weary conviction but still wanting to maintain a semblance of read by letting people know it's still there. Yet, with all the attention she still feels alienated. Fight for what you believe in? I don't know. I didn't feel like Manatee was that meek in Bloodstained.

Meek is a good word for it, but I've seen conftown!Manatee struggle like this with reads before. She was FN in my last mini normal with her and had the same issues where she was unsure about reads and was disheartened that nobody was reaching out to her about them (like she just mentioned regarding DGB). I think she's nervous because she has so much power to swing this game and doesn't want to fuck it up, and she's feeling left high and dry. So I do understand why you're scumreading her, or at least suspicious of her, but I don't agree fwiw.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

But surely scum would kill manatee toNight

If I were scum I'd let her live forever.

But surely scum would kill manatee toNight

If I were scum I'd let her live forever.

But surely scum would kill manatee toNight

If I were scum I'd let her live forever.

Okay apparently I'm the only one thinking that lmao

[ssbm_Kyouko]

ngl with an upick with no scum fakeclaims given, massclaim wouldn't be half a bad idea.

The thought crossed my mind, but nah.

Yeah I'm against massclaiming.

I was just gonna troll until the eventual shock, but I realized that it is possible that a random death can happen given the nature of the claimed so far and if we mislim both we're going straight to the MeLo D2.
So I kinda wanted to give ppl warning to take today's eliminations more seriously.

I feel like manatee placing hurt vote on the elim wagon and shooting you while you're commuted may be a decent play to avoid possible D2 MELO. But surely scum would kill manatee toNight. Actually, do you not think manatee will be killed for some reason? I would assume she would be, so the D2 MELO wouldnt be a concern

GiF would need to know when the yeet takes effect. It's compulsive, but it sounds like a night action. knowing when it resolves is critical because I will flip some fucking tables if manatee were to kill him doing this.

If it works like a commute it should be scooby doo gucci jacuzzi but yeah, I'd have the egg on my face if GiF died in this way

[ssbm_Kyouko]

I asked the mod some questions, but there's only so much he'll say, so like I said, no guarantees.

I have no active. Well I do but it’s compulsive and has no target. And that action is used to yeet me off the game.

It sounds like it can be roleblocked to me. Do you think it can?

Commute precedes roleblock.

Yeah I realized this as soon as I sat down to continue my catch-up this morning. Your claim was on the page and I immediately thought about what I'd theorized yesterday and was like "oh wait, I'm a dumbass, you can't block a commute"

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Why would we want manatee to not kill somebody?

Because of GiFs claim he'll be out of the game toMorrow - it would mean if we mislim 4 times with our 2 double-days D1 and D2, that that combined with NKs and GiF's disappearance would but us down 7 town on D3, possibly down 6 if GiF returns. But being down 6 in what is presumably 10:3 is ELO, and if GiF doesn't return or there are any unexpected additional kills, D3 we wake up endgamed.

[Cabd]

I dunno.

could be a fishing expedition?

I think this is where I'm at given the inconsistent evolution of the claim and statements about what the claim would eventually be that didn't quite line up.


Having looked into the source material the character being claimed in question is the main character of a show called the devil is a part-timer where said demon-lord/devil/whatever ends up losing the fight and him and a few of his subordinates end up on earth with no real power and so he ends up essentially being a McDonald's cashier. He is still able to draw power from negative emotions of humanity although notably I don't believe it was ever seated that he gets power from their deaths. He usually ends up using the power in ways that comically end up being not evil despite him and his crew retaining their evil alignment.

I think Dunn summarized the weirdness around it pretty well alongside Luke I believe who did the same.

One last part that is speculative on my part as to how town reacts in this situation but we were explicitly told when we got our roles that the flavor justification part can be treated as public knowledge not as mod given information and it even says that in the original rules post and yet that information is far as how the role and flavor tie together was omitted entirely. Why? My guess is because the flavor blurb explains why this roll makes so much sense as a mafia role and wasn't easily adaptable.

[DrippingGoofball]

You know, for someone who has been out of the thread for over 12 hours and 600 posts, you sure did happen to land on the exact posts you needed to make a point just now huh?

boom

That's what you call a boom?

Really. Just kill me at this point. I can't deal with this much sensational scum hunting.

[DrippingGoofball]

KILL ME

[DrippingGoofball]

You numbnuts are in need of a profound reset.

[Kate Bishop]

2181 calls.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Your only responses to the 600 posts you missed were exactly the posts you needed to make a point, and you later said you were still mid catching up. I think the term you agreed with wrt me just a moment ago was "agenda driven" in your catch up...

Your sentence is nonsensical. Try to rewrite it.

It's just some out-of-order clauses making it harder to parse. I speak that way though so I understood right away.

Here's my attempt at a rewrite, commentary in

boldgold ©

:

When catching up, you only responded to the exact posts that you needed to respond to in order to make a specific point

(agenda-driven)

. Later you said you were still mid-catching up.

I think this implies you skimmed, looking for posts that you could respond to in order to drive a specific agenda, rather than catching up on

everything

.

I think just a moment ago you agreed that my

(Luke's

Diner

)

catchup could be described as "agenda driven."

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Idk these type of games I feel like its sheep cabd/lld and if theyre wrong kill them off.

Like this was another post I really didnt like the looks of. I feel like wheme's not trying. Not the first time hes made this kind of post. At first he indicated it would be hard to keep up, but more recently is saying he is able to keep up now, but still isn't really posting anything game related. Seemingly has some edge case reads which make me think it's all the more likely that the consensus is wrong and he's big chillin off of wagons that maybe are going to flip town

Do you think Toog flips town?

When I made the post you quoted, I figured it was maybe a 60-70% chance he flips town. Not the best odds at hitting scum, but better I think than the odds of finding scum above my D1 POE line were at that point. Now I find it more likely he'll flip scum though after the posts around the time he made his claim.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

^to be clear, I mean more likely than before - I still don't think I'd say he has a greater than 50% chance at flipping scum