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Post Post #1575 (ISO) » Sat Sep 04, 2021 4:37 am

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In post 1551, Cabd wrote:
In post 1546, Kate Bishop wrote:2181 calls.
Hmm?

We should elim ffery by having notsci hammer for revenge? Interesting fetish but okay, no kink shame here.
2181, when the vanilla cop's walls fell.
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Post Post #1576 (ISO) » Sat Sep 04, 2021 4:38 am

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In post 1568, Toogeloo wrote:
In post 1545, DrippingGoofball wrote:You numbnuts are in need of a profound reset.
Agreed. Manatee just DGB, and vote me out. Can't wait to see how you ass hats cannibalize each other Day 2.
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Manatee just kill DGB with vote two, and everyone else vote me out.
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Post Post #1577 (ISO) » Sat Sep 04, 2021 4:38 am

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Well I compared manatee’s iso from this game to the last one and I got nothing

Maybe I should go farther back to previous games
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Post Post #1578 (ISO) » Sat Sep 04, 2021 4:43 am

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Check Manateedude
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Post Post #1579 (ISO) » Sat Sep 04, 2021 4:48 am

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Spoiler:
Okay. DGB has been gone for like 12 hours and 600 posts. When they comeback, they come in swinging with these two posts:
In post 1431, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 1176, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Feels like his focus is really all on DGB in his catchup to me.
In every single post, Lukewarm and Manatee keep up the refrain "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum"

Like propaganda, convincing by repetition. It's subliminal but it's highly effective.
In post 1438, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 1239, Lukewarm wrote:I was talking about my scum reads on DGB and Toog.
How convenient that these are LLD's reads, and LLD rarely switches directions. You can count on her pushing these reads until she gets her way.

If I were scum I'd support all her reads too.
Which first off, I don't think that it is very accurate, I have been talking about a lot of other slots, and even been saying that while I scum read both them and toog, I don't think they could be partners, and had started leaning away from dgb and towards toog being the scum in the pair, but that is completely besides the point.

But secondly, here they are agreeing with kyouko's interpretation of my catch up posts, which implies they read my catch up, right? (Or they are blindly agreeing without reading, which is bad...)

My catch up was 891 - 1099. So, They voiced an opinion on my posts ranging from 891 to 1099.

But then immediately after, they appear to say that they have missed the reveal of unwnds secret scum read which happened in 1030 (dgb 1446).


So from my pov, something aint right.

Did dgb read my posts from 891-1099? If they did, why are they later claiming to not have read other things that were said around that same time? Did their catch up start with an iso on me? Why? I was a fairly non-presence when they left the thread.

If they did not read my catch up posts, then what are they talking about when they are agreeing with Kyouko in post 1431?

Lets go with the idea that they started reading on a random page, and were agreeing with Kyouko's post 1176. What was I talking about leading up to that post?
Spoiler:

1134 - marci
1137 - manatee
1139 - kate / manatee
1141 - kate / manatee
1142 - cabd / kate / manatee
1148 - manatee
1149 - toog
1166 - wheme
1172 - toog and
dgb

1175 - Asking marci about town reading
dgb
[/spo/iler]

So in my 10 posts leading up to the kyouko post that dgb agrees with, I mention dgb twice. Once to say that I think either they or toog are scum, but not both. And once to ask someone to tell me why they were town reading dgb.

Now, lets look back at dgb's post:
In post 1431, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 1176, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Feels like his focus is really all on DGB in his catchup to me.
In every single post, Lukewarm and Manatee keep up the refrain "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum"

Like propaganda, convincing by repetition. It's subliminal but it's highly effective.
I am trying to figure out when this is ever a real thought that dgb had about me, and it really does not make sense to me.

If they read the posts in question, then why did had they not read the other things?
If they started randomly near kyouko's post, what made them think this?

So I am left thinking that they were not caught up, and they had no reason to actually think it. But they agreed with kyouko anyways, which seems hella scummy.


....

I typed all of that up, and it feels like my line of thinking about Titus in bloodstained, so I don't think people are going to like it :dead:

I still think dgb is scummy, and I would say that the difference here, is that I have lots of other things that lead me to scum read dgb before this. Where Titus, she went from a null read to a lock scum read over just this kind of thing.

I think that the better reasons I have to be suspicious of dgb are things like this:

Spoiler:
In post 906, Lukewarm wrote:
Spoiler:
In post 624, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 618, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:and LLD says 235 is like a "mask off paranoia" (scum with their mask off?) that is posted to prevent the formation of a townblock.
~maybe~

But LLD is scumreading me and I'm town so, seeing her warped reasoning on me, I'm not about to sheep her on what could be equally warped reasoning on other players.
[/sp/oiler]

I am not really liking DGB. And I really don't like this post.

Why is she not just forming an opinion on Toog on her own? Like why wave away the Toog suspicions because LLD (from her pov) has 1 bad read on her?

And even "LLD has one bad read, and therefore all of her reads can be ignored" feels really bad anyways.

I am also unwure how DGB is reading LLD atm? Like, just earlier this page she said she thought LLD's claim was scummy, but this post seems to imply that LLD's reads are real, but bad?

This also ignores that Dunn and myself have also voiced concerns about Toog up to this point :/

idk. Weird post, that does not actually call either Toog or LLD scum or town
In post 915, Lukewarm wrote:[spo/iler=]
In post 656, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 653, GuyInFreezer wrote:I think manatee’s role has non-zero chance of being 3p.
That could be true for LLD as well, no?

It's anyone's guess.
In post 657, DrippingGoofball wrote:No one is going to say they want to yeet it because they might be killed for it.
[/spoi/ler]


Eww

This does not feel like real thoughts about LLD's role
In post 975, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 970, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 725, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 724, Cabd wrote:
In post 722, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 701, unwnd wrote:That's just how games are now Toog

Geriatric style would be nice but mod doesn't agree so I'm gonna keep it rolling
What is geriatric style? I feel I should be the designated trendsetter for this.
Geriatric_Ruleset
I like it!

In other news I'm content townreading Toogeloo, I see nothing that concerns me.
This one

Which also, why does "I see nothing that concerns me" = a town read, instead of like. A null read?

DGB what are your reasons for this town read?
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Post Post #1580 (ISO) » Sat Sep 04, 2021 4:49 am

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In post 1576, Toogeloo wrote:
In post 1568, Toogeloo wrote:
In post 1545, DrippingGoofball wrote:You numbnuts are in need of a profound reset.
Agreed. Manatee just DGB, and vote me out. Can't wait to see how you ass hats cannibalize each other Day 2.
EBWOP:
Manatee just kill DGB with vote two, and everyone else vote me out.
towns get things wrong sometimes.

the role you've claimed seems crazy powerful.

could you answer Dunn's questions about if your abilities are one-shot, and if you use more than one ability in a night.

If you're town, even if you don't get out of today's elim, you can still work on reads and gamesolve like someone about to be confirmed town.
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Post Post #1581 (ISO) » Sat Sep 04, 2021 4:50 am

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I'm not feeling anything about (game being too easy, or not)

No more grandstanding, need to get back to just playing every day like an event instead of a narrative that is potentially being driven. What that means? Elim people you think are scum then sift through the information you get to see who has bad intentions.

So..it's not if, but when?
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Post Post #1582 (ISO) » Sat Sep 04, 2021 4:51 am

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Unwnd why do u scumread me talk to me

also I read 5 ssbm’s isos and they play the same fcking way every game why can’t people have drastic differences in scum and town game
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Post Post #1583 (ISO) » Sat Sep 04, 2021 4:52 am

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My vote on you was a taunt for Manatee who suddenly was like 'im not voting Wheme' but

I don't feel that's warranted, you two have barely interacted. I've had you at null, but I think Manatee has been slipping a bit and I'm open to her being groupscum
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Post Post #1584 (ISO) » Sat Sep 04, 2021 4:53 am

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In post 1577, WhemeStar wrote:Well I compared manatee’s iso from this game to the last one and I got nothing

Maybe I should go farther back to previous games
You could make a start by copying my meta homework from cephgame. I had links prior games in it.

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12895508
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Post Post #1585 (ISO) » Sat Sep 04, 2021 5:05 am

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In post 332, ManateeGal wrote:i fucked up that quote it was supposed 2 say +1

:facepalm: :facepalm:
In post 431, ManateeGal wrote:
In post 430, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 414, ManateeGal wrote:i have a second vote. placing it on a player that doesnt get elimed kills them.
The scum must have gotten really excited to have rolled this!
:neutral:
In post 484, ManateeGal wrote:
In post 474, GuyInFreezer wrote:
I just noticed that. I'm dumb please forgiv.
:lol: its fine <3 please do keep it in your mind going forward
In post 864, ManateeGal wrote:
In post 815, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 783, unwnd wrote:Manatee's recent post is off

But i wouldn't categorize her as scun
if my own theories are right
You can't challenge her, she'll kill you.
where on earth are you getting this idea :dead:
In post 883, ManateeGal wrote:good to know :?
In post 952, ManateeGal wrote:
In post 947, unwnd wrote: but that's not part of the sigma male grindset.
:nerd:
In post 1124, ManateeGal wrote:OH i thought u were talking abt me im sorry cab :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:
In post 1290, ManateeGal wrote:we could like. end day rn :P
In post 1347, ManateeGal wrote:
In post 1314, unwnd wrote:
In post 1278, ManateeGal wrote:yea i think massclaiming is a wonderful idea btw
This is why you are not town
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Post Post #1586 (ISO) » Sat Sep 04, 2021 5:07 am

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In post 1579, Lukewarm wrote:
Spoiler:
Okay. DGB has been gone for like 12 hours and 600 posts. When they comeback, they come in swinging with these two posts:
In post 1431, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 1176, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Feels like his focus is really all on DGB in his catchup to me.
In every single post, Lukewarm and Manatee keep up the refrain "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum"

Like propaganda, convincing by repetition. It's subliminal but it's highly effective.
In post 1438, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 1239, Lukewarm wrote:I was talking about my scum reads on DGB and Toog.
How convenient that these are LLD's reads, and LLD rarely switches directions. You can count on her pushing these reads until she gets her way.

If I were scum I'd support all her reads too.
Which first off, I don't think that it is very accurate, I have been talking about a lot of other slots, and even been saying that while I scum read both them and toog, I don't think they could be partners, and had started leaning away from dgb and towards toog being the scum in the pair, but that is completely besides the point.

But secondly, here they are agreeing with kyouko's interpretation of my catch up posts, which implies they read my catch up, right? (Or they are blindly agreeing without reading, which is bad...)

My catch up was 891 - 1099. So, They voiced an opinion on my posts ranging from 891 to 1099.

But then immediately after, they appear to say that they have missed the reveal of unwnds secret scum read which happened in 1030 (dgb 1446).


So from my pov, something aint right.

Did dgb read my posts from 891-1099? If they did, why are they later claiming to not have read other things that were said around that same time? Did their catch up start with an iso on me? Why? I was a fairly non-presence when they left the thread.

If they did not read my catch up posts, then what are they talking about when they are agreeing with Kyouko in post 1431?

Lets go with the idea that they started reading on a random page, and were agreeing with Kyouko's post 1176. What was I talking about leading up to that post?
Spoiler:

1134 - marci
1137 - manatee
1139 - kate / manatee
1141 - kate / manatee
1142 - cabd / kate / manatee
1148 - manatee
1149 - toog
1166 - wheme
1172 - toog and
dgb

1175 - Asking marci about town reading
dgb
[/spo/iler]

So in my 10 posts leading up to the kyouko post that dgb agrees with, I mention dgb twice. Once to say that I think either they or toog are scum, but not both. And once to ask someone to tell me why they were town reading dgb.

Now, lets look back at dgb's post:
In post 1431, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 1176, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Feels like his focus is really all on DGB in his catchup to me.
In every single post, Lukewarm and Manatee keep up the refrain "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum"

Like propaganda, convincing by repetition. It's subliminal but it's highly effective.
I am trying to figure out when this is ever a real thought that dgb had about me, and it really does not make sense to me.

If they read the posts in question, then why did had they not read the other things?
If they started randomly near kyouko's post, what made them think this?

So I am left thinking that they were not caught up, and they had no reason to actually think it. But they agreed with kyouko anyways, which seems hella scummy.


....

I typed all of that up, and it feels like my line of thinking about Titus in bloodstained, so I don't think people are going to like it :dead:

I still think dgb is scummy, and I would say that the difference here, is that I have lots of other things that lead me to scum read dgb before this. Where Titus, she went from a null read to a lock scum read over just this kind of thing.

I think that the better reasons I have to be suspicious of dgb are things like this:

Spoiler:
In post 906, Lukewarm wrote:
Spoiler:
In post 624, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 618, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:and LLD says 235 is like a "mask off paranoia" (scum with their mask off?) that is posted to prevent the formation of a townblock.
~maybe~

But LLD is scumreading me and I'm town so, seeing her warped reasoning on me, I'm not about to sheep her on what could be equally warped reasoning on other players.
[/sp/oiler]

I am not really liking DGB. And I really don't like this post.

Why is she not just forming an opinion on Toog on her own? Like why wave away the Toog suspicions because LLD (from her pov) has 1 bad read on her?

And even "LLD has one bad read, and therefore all of her reads can be ignored" feels really bad anyways.

I am also unwure how DGB is reading LLD atm? Like, just earlier this page she said she thought LLD's claim was scummy, but this post seems to imply that LLD's reads are real, but bad?

This also ignores that Dunn and myself have also voiced concerns about Toog up to this point :/

idk. Weird post, that does not actually call either Toog or LLD scum or town
In post 915, Lukewarm wrote:[spo/iler=]
In post 656, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 653, GuyInFreezer wrote:I think manatee’s role has non-zero chance of being 3p.
That could be true for LLD as well, no?

It's anyone's guess.
In post 657, DrippingGoofball wrote:No one is going to say they want to yeet it because they might be killed for it.
[/spoi/ler]


Eww

This does not feel like real thoughts about LLD's role
In post 975, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 970, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 725, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 724, Cabd wrote:
In post 722, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 701, unwnd wrote:That's just how games are now Toog

Geriatric style would be nice but mod doesn't agree so I'm gonna keep it rolling
What is geriatric style? I feel I should be the designated trendsetter for this.
Geriatric_Ruleset
I like it!

In other news I'm content townreading Toogeloo, I see nothing that concerns me.
This one

Which also, why does "I see nothing that concerns me" = a town read, instead of like. A null read?

DGB what are your reasons for this town read?
I was already getting Titus vibes in your approach to DGB last night, and that gives me some slight townfeels about you here.

DGB's play has been meme-y here and I feel like the choice of what to post and respond to is shaped by how meme-enabling it is.

We both think that her townplay these days tends to be meme-y, but feel like it's way more pronounced in this game.
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Post Post #1587 (ISO) » Sat Sep 04, 2021 5:19 am

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Idk I’m lost why isn’t cabd takin over?
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Post Post #1588 (ISO) » Sat Sep 04, 2021 6:05 am

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Prob not enough to warrant a vla status but I’m gonna be in NY for the weekend.
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Post Post #1589 (ISO) » Sat Sep 04, 2021 6:19 am

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In post 1360, GuyInFreezer wrote:Oh yeah there is this fresh wheme scum game that’s finished.
But… I didn’t read the game even though I modded it lmao
I should be obv town here compared to that game tbh
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Post Post #1590 (ISO) » Sat Sep 04, 2021 6:19 am

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T3 said I was playing to my town meta so maybe not actually LOL
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Post Post #1591 (ISO) » Sat Sep 04, 2021 6:50 am

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wheme, your comment about cabd taking over goes against your earlier comment about you sheeping LLD because cabd is sheeping LLD. You answered your own question pages ago, and the act of asking it is posturing.
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Post Post #1592 (ISO) » Sat Sep 04, 2021 6:50 am

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In post 1570, Lukewarm wrote:Weren't you calling me scum earlier? I need to look back.
Yes, I did call you scum. But as I watch you sinking slowly into your own ever-deepening quicksands of bad reasoning, I am struck by the realization that scum would have stopped flailing when the sand reached the level of their mouths.
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Post Post #1593 (ISO) » Sat Sep 04, 2021 6:59 am

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In post 1572, Lukewarm wrote:2- Several people were scum reading them before that happened, and this post appears to frame it as "all the scum reads on me are bad, because of this is their basis" and the thing being pointed to is a thing that happened after people started scum reading them
Weird how you're hiding under the mommy's apron of other people's scum reads, but as Toogeloo (who will most likely be a green flip) points out, WE ARE CANNIBALIZING EACH OTHER.

Lukewarm, in the future of this game I will let you flail unanswered. You are "heated" by your own admission and you dig your heels in your wrongness, refusing to reconsider your bad read out of pride and stubornness (a word my lying spellcheck says does not exist).

===============================

I'm definitely town, but probably Lukewarm is too, unless of course he's being obstinate only because he wants to influence Manatee to kill me while sheltered by LLD's umbrella of
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Post Post #1594 (ISO) » Sat Sep 04, 2021 7:00 am

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Kate, am I still entertaining? You've put a lot of pressure on me to live up to your compliment.
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Post Post #1595 (ISO) » Sat Sep 04, 2021 7:08 am

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Yes.
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Post Post #1596 (ISO) » Sat Sep 04, 2021 7:08 am

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Oh thank god
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Post Post #1597 (ISO) » Sat Sep 04, 2021 7:10 am

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In post 1591, Kate Bishop wrote:wheme, your comment about cabd taking over goes against your earlier comment about you sheeping LLD because cabd is sheeping LLD. You answered your own question pages ago, and the act of asking it is posturing.
Okay why is he sleeping LLD
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Post Post #1598 (ISO) » Sat Sep 04, 2021 7:34 am

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In post 1597, WhemeStar wrote:
In post 1591, Kate Bishop wrote:wheme, your comment about cabd taking over goes against your earlier comment about you sheeping LLD because cabd is sheeping LLD. You answered your own question pages ago, and the act of asking it is posturing.
Okay why is he sleeping LLD
Specifically why is his to answer. From outside his head, it started around 300 posts into the game, agreeing with her on toog and seeing her claim as incredibly town, and it was a limited area of following at that point. Probably still is, and she is checking in with him about his other reads. At the initial point of congruence, he specifically wanted the unwnd/luke dance to continue, and I think also referenced you as someone whose dance-steps needed critique. It's more of an alliance than a straight-up sheep.

Your style of sheeping is not nearly so considered.
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Post Post #1599 (ISO) » Sat Sep 04, 2021 7:40 am

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In post 1598, Kate Bishop wrote:
In post 1597, WhemeStar wrote:
In post 1591, Kate Bishop wrote:wheme, your comment about cabd taking over goes against your earlier comment about you sheeping LLD because cabd is sheeping LLD. You answered your own question pages ago, and the act of asking it is posturing.
Okay why is he sleeping LLD
Specifically why is his to answer. From outside his head, it started around 300 posts into the game, agreeing with her on toog and seeing her claim as incredibly town, and it was a limited area of following at that point. Probably still is, and she is checking in with him about his other reads. At the initial point of congruence, he specifically wanted the unwnd/luke dance to continue, and I think also referenced you as someone whose dance-steps needed critique. It's more of an alliance than a straight-up sheep.

Your style of sheeping is not nearly so considered.
Sheeping you guys has led to 2 town stomps so I figured why not you know
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