3d20 – The Great Board Game War [GAME OVER]

[Nero Cain]

I sorta feel like redtea actually thinks he's right and then scum are the ones that are taking the path of least resistance.

I don't even get Thors vote on me if he thinks scum are the ones that are trying to get rid of the PGO (wich is what I think too)

[Nero Cain]

d1 I felt like they were scummy for saying that they wouldn't vote SSBM and then they said that SSBM is either town or 3p. And now they're hard scumreadng her so eh idk.

Maybe this is too simplistic but I almost think scum!redtea would be hyper aware of not drastically changing their read on Kyo without more substance.

I also fail to see that redtea v Kyo change being a SvS progression so I'm confused that you're pushing the idea that they're both scum

Well, no one is saying anything about his read change so it's not like he's getting flak for it. And it's not that much of a read change? Like he said that she was possibly 3p d1, it's a bit of a leap but not a huge leap to go from "not willing to vote her d1 and calling her 3p" to a hard scum read. Though I think its prob a lie when red claims that he's not scumreading me more than her.

I was viewing this as possible distancing and I'm not sure why you don't think this is a valid thought process.

[Dwlee99]

Nero, if you're town here I'm sorry I'm being such a bad member of your fan club.

@Dwlee - do you have any opinions on Nero?

Nero is probably not scum with Cyrus but I'm not sure if this is TvS like you think. Why do you think that?

[Nero Cain]

then who do u want dead today?

[Nero Cain]

I mean 3 days is still a good chunk of time so we aren't in panic mode yet but if we wanted a scum flip its prob a good idea to start putting together a new wagon. Inaction is just condemning me to death. I feel like it's pretty obvious that scum are happy and comfortable in this gamestate b/c one of their own isn't being wagoned.

[Dwlee99]

Can you explain why Kyo!scum?

[Nero Cain]

sure, gimmie a few

[Marashu]

I'ma retract my Nero/Thor team statement. I was misremembering an order of events - I thought Nero had come up with a premature TR on Thor and then started distancing, but that is completely wrong, so disregard it.

[Thor Ragnarok]

I sorta feel like redtea actually thinks he's right and then scum are the ones that are taking the path of least resistance.

I don't even get Thors vote on me if he thinks scum are the ones that are trying to get rid of the PGO (wich is what I think too)

Yeah, fine, vote one of those with me then

VOTE: Robert

[Nero Cain]

I also kinda agree with cakez about ssbm

I don't think ssbm is all that townie Wich is why I didn't really like you saying that you wouldn't vote them.

I didn't and I don't think cakez did either, take ssbms vote on mega to be an rvs vote Wich is why is a bit scummy.

As for my pool of 6: Cyrus, Nero, Thor, Cakez, Dragon, and RMH:

I didn't like this post b/c its all the popular wagons and being down with all the popular wagons is just a great way to blend in. There's plenty of scum motivation to it.

even d1 me called it out

I would like to point out that her pool of 6 is everyone besides dragon that's been mentioned as a possible wagon.

It's null but scum do use heavy mech talk to hide behind

this was both in general and at ssbm. It was my worry that she was using heavy mech talk to hide behind.

I kinda just want to know if the cult is real. We're too fragmented. This is the most pro-town elim today I think

VOTE: Gamma

I could also do James because I can see Gamma/James as partners, and if they are, the cult is possibly a lie to distract from scum

you've been all about finding and killing cult and now you are voting not cult?!?

someone rolled cult so it exists.

the cult is possibly a lie to distract from scum

I mean Jesus fuck, you were cult hunting all day and someone rolled cult. Am I really the only one that thinks this is B.S?

tbf cyrus isn't the first one that has brought up that it seems fake as shit that SSBM spent the entire day cult hunting and BELIEVING megas roll claim to doubting if it was true

you weren't getting snowed, you are just full of shit

I was going to quote a post but I forgot which one but its like SSBM is just there and blowing with the breeze. She was town reading Cyrus all of d1 and then quick hammered him and then was town reading Thor and then as soon as Thor gets mentioned as a possible elimination she's wanting to policy him. This also relates to 503 and here thing about believing in a cult to thinking the cult was a lie and trying to use it to get a Gamma flip....like I realize reads and thoughts change but she seems especially ez going like she doesn't have any hard thoughts or theories, they all just change with the drop of a hat.

SSBM keeps doing this weird thing where she weaves in and out of the list. sometimes it's like she treats the roll list like gospel and other times she just sort of ignores it and revisions it. Like all of d1 she was cult hunting and then it became "well maybe there isn't a cult." and today her thoughts on Thor being scum are nonsense.

1652 -and here's the OMGUS

You've been mudslinging since D1

wanted to point out that she's trying to belittle and misclassify my play as mudslinging when I'm just hunting. This is classic scum ad hom.

you've been pecking at me from the sidelines.

whine that I'm scumreading her

[Nero Cain]

I'ma retract my Nero/Thor team statement. I was misremembering an order of events - I thought Nero had come up with a premature TR on Thor and then started distancing, but that is completely wrong, so disregard it.

translation: now that Thor is voting Nero I need to stop calling Thor scum so he can help me push this miselim through.

This was basically a prod dodge

[Nero Cain]

DW what do you think about Marashu? We could kill that if you really don't want to do SSBM. Same q @ Gamma and DOTW.

[Nero Cain]

I sorta feel like redtea actually thinks he's right and then scum are the ones that are taking the path of least resistance.

I don't even get Thors vote on me if he thinks scum are the ones that are trying to get rid of the PGO (wich is what I think too)

Yeah, fine, vote one of those with me then

VOTE: Robert

Why him over SSBM or Marashu? Like I get that Rob could easily be lying about being a 1x vig but SSBM's and Marashu's sorta pushing then backtracking and flipflopping feels slimier than RMH just hard pushing you.

[Dwlee99]

DW what do you think about Marashu? We could kill that if you really don't want to do SSBM. Same q @ Gamma and DOTW.

I don't really have any opinion on Marashu. I guess with Kyo my question for you is do you think that she is scum with Cyrus? We could have another groupscum but I doubt it. Maybe an SK but I don't think another groupscum.

[Nero Cain]

I don't see why not. She did town read him all of d1 and only quickhammered him after his slip or w/e it was.

You could maybe argue 503 might mean they aren't buddies but then you could argue that she only did that b/c his name was popping up and then spent the rest of d1 trying to influence town to not kill cyrus.

Like what is up man, you don't seem to be pushing anywhere or think anyone is scum.

[Dwlee99]

Like what is up man, you don't seem to be pushing anywhere or think anyone is scum

Yea that's certainly a problem isn't it

[Dwlee99]

You know what they say, day one red flip = loss. Except when it doesn't.

[Gamma Emerald]

DW what do you think about Marashu? We could kill that if you really don't want to do SSBM. Same q @ Gamma and DOTW.

he's seemed kinda reasonable and vaguely towny
I would def prefer ssbm tho

[Marashu]

I'ma retract my Nero/Thor team statement. I was misremembering an order of events - I thought Nero had come up with a premature TR on Thor and then started distancing, but that is completely wrong, so disregard it.

translation: now that Thor is voting Nero I need to stop calling Thor scum so he can help me push this miselim through.

This was basically a prod dodge

Don't get me wrong, it's still pretty possible that either of you are scum. It's just that my reasoning for the two of you being partners was wrong.

[Nero Cain]

Like what is up man, you don't seem to be pushing anywhere or think anyone is scum

Yea that's certainly a problem isn't it

You know what they say, day one red flip = loss. Except when it doesn't.

man, I'm just trying to get your insights into the game. I don't really get what's going on with u.

[Dwlee99]

I just haven't put a lot of effort into this game today, sorry my guy.

[Dragon of the West]

SSBM keeps doing this weird thing where she weaves in and out of the list. sometimes it's like she treats the roll list like gospel and other times she just sort of ignores it and revisions it. Like all of d1 she was cult hunting and then it became "well maybe there isn't a cult." and today her thoughts on Thor being scum are nonsense.

Not gonna lie, the way Kyo has treated the list as described here has bothered me. Certain things seemed to be matter of fact accepted like they must be true, while other seemingly identical types of information was thrown away to fit theories

[Dragon of the West]

DW what do you think about Marashu? We could kill that if you really don't want to do SSBM. Same q @ Gamma and DOTW.

I haven't really taken issue with Marashu's play. I don't think I'd go there today, much more willing to go Kyo.

I was torn on Gamma going into this day phase. Let me re-read their ISO, certain moments have made me think they're town but I can't really shake the feeling they might not be

[Nero Cain]

Certain things seemed to be matter of fact accepted like they must be true, while other seemingly identical types of information was thrown away to fit theories

ding ding ding. we have a winner!

[ssbm_Kyouko]

SSBM keeps doing this weird thing where she weaves in and out of the list. sometimes it's like she treats the roll list like gospel and other times she just sort of ignores it and revisions it. Like all of d1 she was cult hunting and then it became "well maybe there isn't a cult." and today her thoughts on Thor being scum are nonsense.

Not gonna lie, the way Kyo has treated the list as described here has bothered me. Certain things seemed to be matter of fact accepted like they must be true, while other seemingly identical types of information was thrown away to fit theories

well, the list most likely isn't 100% accurate and shouldn't be treated as such. Parts of the list are confirmed by flips, but if we'd flipped scum that had claimed to roll a Cult leader on 3d20, and hadn't flipped that cult leader, I'd be questioning if the cult is even real. We dont know what's what yet, and we have a few people claiming their roles are not on the list at all. Like Cakez's roll might be fake. Probably some scum rolls are fake too. Is there any particular instance of me not following the list exactly that you feel is unjust? I dont think I've made any unreasonable leaps from the information we have.