Open 825 - PYP X/Y: HoS_S [game over!]

[Datisi]

vote count 3.06

with 10 votes in play, it takes 6 to make a decision. day 3 ends in (expired on 2021-09-17 13:00:00).

yeet

Auro [2]:

Titus, PenguinPower

Something_Smart [2]:

Cat Scratch Fever, Auro

Bee [2]:

Something_Smart, Flea The Magician

not voting [4]:

Bee, Thor Ragnarok, Gamma Emerald, StrangeMatter

mod notes

~ StrangeMatter is the new ManateeGal
~ titus v/la september 17th to 20th
~ gamma emerald v/la till the 24th
~ i'm currently sick, apologies if mod response times slow down
~ dual mod iso

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[StrangeMatter]

It will probably end up being irrelevant and it can lead people down rabbit holes.

Association-based reads can drive up the likelihood of an individual slot being scum though.

They are played around quite a bit from scum from scum and leads people completely off. Still I think attention to them is definitely a place you can start with when it comes to reads.

Also, I noted that Enchant read Thor as town based off his playstyle being different from a description of Thor's scum game twice. They even went through the effort of asking why Thor is mafia. This seems like they were trying to possibly drag Thor down if they flipped red if you ask me. I feel like the only really weird part that puts a hole in this is from Thor's really weird pattern theory in #673. Still probably more likely they flip green if you ask me.

[Auro]

Yeah, but scum play around with anything and everything - same applies to general individual tells too.

[StrangeMatter]

I don't get what you're trying to get with this other than that its valid scumread off an associative tell which I disagree. My experiences with this in particular is that it's best to use it as a start rather than a reason to.

[Gamma Emerald]

That feels like a logical take for SM

[Auro]

I disagree about the validity of that scumread, too!

[Bee]

I think associatives can be rabbit holes, sure, but it’s the easiest way for me to contextualize behavior as AI when I tend towards more emotional play / understanding (which I am trying to fix on this alt). Like it makes me look at things in a motivation way that’s usually harder for me.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Flea unvoting S_S doesn't feel super S/T (although for later reference, I think it did come after PP's unvote), but also if S/S, why vote there at all? I waffle on Flea
a lot, but I feel like Flea's actions don't make that much sense as town.

I should probably think about Auro teams, but that'll have to come later tonight.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Flea unvoting S_S doesn't feel super S/T (although for later reference, I think it did come after PP's unvote), but also if S/S, why vote there at all? I waffle on Flea
a lot, but I feel like Flea's actions don't make that much sense as

scum

.

I should probably think about Auro teams, but that'll have to come later tonight.

FTFMe

[PenguinPower]

Auro and Flea atm.

I dare you to elaborate.

that's a good one...you are funny

[Cat Scratch Fever]

I think associatives can be rabbit holes, sure, but it’s the easiest way for me to contextualize behavior as AI when I tend towards more emotional play / understanding (which I am trying to fix on this alt). Like it makes me look at things in a motivation way that’s usually harder for me.

Still confident on Thor town? I noticed he wasn't in any of your proposed team solves.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Who was it that said Titus never bussed?

Auro/Titus doesn't feel like a thing.

[Something_Smart]

Who was it that said Titus never bussed?

That used to be true a long time ago. I don't know if it still is.

[Gamma Emerald]

she sometimes busses but last I remember she tried to be an "ineffectual busser"

[Bee]

I still think Thor's town, yeah.

And I've seen Titus bus like... her entire team. .-.

[Gamma Emerald]

I still think Thor's town, yeah.

And I've seen Titus bus like... her entire team. .-.

lulw

[Cat Scratch Fever]

What do you mean by ineffectual busser?

[Gamma Emerald]

the idea was to push her buddies but not be listened to
it did not work, mostly because everyone else on the scumteam either crashed and burned (exhibit A: my stupid ass) or couldn't put forth the WIM to turn things around (cupcake butterfly and yuri gagarin)
context

[Bee]

Repping out of that game saved me so much anguish.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Okay I've read it your combined ISOs from Situation Room and get the gist. I'm not sure if that makes sense here because Titus had her eye on Auro in day 1 iirc. And I think Titus started the Enchant wagon? Not sure if she's the type of hardpush her own partner.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Idk if trying to do associations is getting me anywhere.

This game needs something to happen with ~2 days left, and although I don't feel confident in Auro scum, when I try to towncase him, I'm not able to convince myself he's town either. That + not voting Enchant + PP/Titus voting there is probably good enough absence of anything stronger.

I think we should do Auro/S_S today.

Bonus - I don't think there's any reason those two can't be scum together?

[Auro]

I'm the doctor.
N1 targeted S_S
N2 targeted Bee

[Cat Scratch Fever]

I don't cc but you targeted SS N1?

[Cat Scratch Fever]

There should be a "why" in my last post.

[Auro]

I thought S_S would be the most likely "mechanical" kill based on his experience and draft position (scum may not target the 1st because wifom).