Pre-flip theory crafting is exactly why I suggested this earlier.In post 175, Roden wrote:I can also save everyone's time and claim now if you guys really want to waste time pushing me as a mis-elim.
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For the record, this pushes me to:
RODEN IS NOT SCUM WITH: T3, Guillotina
GUILLOTINA IS NOT SCUM WITH: T3, Roden
T3 IS NOT SCUM WITH: Guillotina, Roden
Given this, at least one of them is town no matter what but I can see any of them being scum and I still think 2/3 of them are. (It's possible it's only 1/3 but that requires the scumteams to be {Hiraki + 1} {Enchant +1} with one of the +1s being the 1 scum and the other being Zyla.)
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I didn't. I didn't read the signup because I signed up due to being invited and I didn't read the OP, I just kinda assumed it was a standard mini theme.In post 350, Roden wrote:Who else doesn't know this is multiball? Legitimate question.
I also vaguely recall that, tho I wouldn't know from where.In post 362, T3 wrote:I believe I saw aa9 ask somewhere about 9:2:2 multiballs.
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He is right, i have no problem doing that.In post 379, Roden wrote:Guillo has no problem hard bussing team mates. You saw this first hand, Mastina.
But Roden is focused on discrediting me as anything now, first third party, now scum.
Desperation at its finest.
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I'm also ok getting yeeted, like i feel that ive been trying the hardest and still getting pushed as scum means i got close and scum want me gone, but please, if you do flip me, DONT IGNORE MY LEGACY JUST BECAUSE YOU HATE ME ON PERSONAL LEVEL.
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1) The only difference between town and scum is TMI.
2) If scum can do it, so can town, except TMI.
3) The best way to tell the truth in a game of lies is by lying and the best way to lie in a games of lies is by telling the truth.
2) If scum can do it, so can town, except TMI.
3) The best way to tell the truth in a game of lies is by lying and the best way to lie in a games of lies is by telling the truth.
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Because you have no fire :/In post 363, T3 wrote:Why are you scumreading me then?In post 339, CheekyTeeky wrote:Townreading me isn't going to get me to change my mind lolIn post 331, T3 wrote:All of Cheeky's posts sound natural, in a sense.
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*coughs*In post 365, T3 wrote:My reads are almost always honest as either alignment, albeit scum me has a tendency to TMI.In post 361, mastina wrote:Weirdly enough my vibes from T3 is that he's telling the truth about all his reads and that they are mostly good regardless of his alignment but in spite of him having truthful, good reads, I'm not sure he's town.In post 149, T3 wrote:I feel like scum Galron would ask more questions to appear like he's posting content from looking at his ISO in Radio Buzz [towngame] and Calculasia [scumgame].
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Well I'll believe it when I see a very obvious push on Roden that is committed to which you don't back out of--now that it's known that it's multiball and it's known who I have in my POE pool, I can't trust votes/pushes as much as I could prior to these, meaning distancing and even bussing is possible so long as it doesn't actually kill the partner.In post 376, Hiraki wrote:what if i told you that i wouldn't mind a roden elim?
However, I'll acknowledge there's a few less-likely scum pairings which aren't absolute but still less likely. I should've noted them at the time since refinding them is a bit harder but from a quick iso skim:
You-Roden is among them (the less likely but still possible teams).
Guillotina-You is one of the more probable ones.
T3-You is also one of the more probable ones.
So at this stage, I'd say:
Roden + Element, OR:
Roden + Zyla, OR:
Roden is town;
IF RODEN IS SCUM, OTHER TEAM:
T3 + Hiraki, OR:
T3 + Element (not possible if it's Roden + Element), OR:
T3 + Zyla (not possible if it's Roden + Zyla), OR:
Guillotina + Hiraki, OR:
Guillotina + Element (not possible if it's Roden + Element), OR:
Guillotina + Zyla (not possible if it's Roden + Zyla)
IF RODEN IS TOWN, FIRST TEAM:
T3 + Hiraki, OR:
T3 + Element, OR:
T3 + Zyra, OR:
Hiraki + Zyra
IF RODEN IS SCUM, SECOND TEAM:
Guillotina + Hiraki, OR:
Guillotina + Element, OR:
Guillotina + Zyra, OR:
Hiraki + Zyra
Pretty sure the key players this game whose flips blow the game wide open are {Roden, T3, Guillotina} with a side of Hiraki.
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Sure but that wasn't multiball.In post 379, Roden wrote:Guillo has no problem hard bussing team mates. You saw this first hand, Mastina.
This is.
Pre-multiball-reveal, I don't think scum bussed.
Post-multiball-reveal, they could, which is why future interactions are a lot less reliable than past ones pre-reveal of multiball, so long as they didn't actually end up on a final elimination wagon.
So I have fairly high faith that I'm in the right ballpark here.
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At this stage I would unironically be okay with all of the main 3 and maybe Hiraki fullclaiming today.
Being all of {Roden, T3, Guillotina} fullciaming.
I realize that having three slots (maybe 4) fullclaim on D1 is unusual but this is a game with unusual circumstances. The multiball nature of the game + the prominence of those three (with the side of Hiraki) + the players who I feel are town no matter what narrows down things significantly enough that I genuinely feel it's worth it.
Being all of {Roden, T3, Guillotina} fullciaming.
I realize that having three slots (maybe 4) fullclaim on D1 is unusual but this is a game with unusual circumstances. The multiball nature of the game + the prominence of those three (with the side of Hiraki) + the players who I feel are town no matter what narrows down things significantly enough that I genuinely feel it's worth it.
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Wtf? HEY! In what world do you believe that im scum with Rodent?In post 387, mastina wrote:Well I'll believe it when I see a very obvious push on Roden that is committed to which you don't back out of--now that it's known that it's multiball and it's known who I have in my POE pool, I can't trust votes/pushes as much as I could prior to these, meaning distancing and even bussing is possible so long as it doesn't actually kill the partner.In post 376, Hiraki wrote:what if i told you that i wouldn't mind a roden elim?
However, I'll acknowledge there's a few less-likely scum pairings which aren't absolute but still less likely. I should've noted them at the time since refinding them is a bit harder but from a quick iso skim:
You-Roden is among them (the less likely but still possible teams).
Guillotina-You is one of the more probable ones.
T3-You is also one of the more probable ones.
So at this stage, I'd say:
Roden + Element, OR:
Roden + Zyla, OR:
Roden is town;
IF RODEN IS SCUM, OTHER TEAM:
T3 + Hiraki, OR:
T3 + Element (not possible if it's Roden + Element), OR:
T3 + Zyla (not possible if it's Roden + Zyla), OR:
Guillotina + Hiraki, OR:
Guillotina + Element (not possible if it's Roden + Element), OR:
Guillotina + Zyla (not possible if it's Roden + Zyla)
IF RODEN IS TOWN, FIRST TEAM:
T3 + Hiraki, OR:
T3 + Element, OR:
T3 + Zyra, OR:
Hiraki + Zyra
IF RODEN IS SCUM, SECOND TEAM:
Guillotina + Hiraki, OR:
Guillotina + Element, OR:
Guillotina + Zyra, OR:
Hiraki + Zyra
Pretty sure the key players this game whose flips blow the game wide open are {Roden, T3, Guillotina} with a side of Hiraki.
If you have a case to associate me as scum with all those people, out with it now
1) The only difference between town and scum is TMI.
2) If scum can do it, so can town, except TMI.
3) The best way to tell the truth in a game of lies is by lying and the best way to lie in a games of lies is by telling the truth.
2) If scum can do it, so can town, except TMI.
3) The best way to tell the truth in a game of lies is by lying and the best way to lie in a games of lies is by telling the truth.
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Ok. Never mind. Mastina might be a wolf.In post 389, mastina wrote:At this stage I would unironically be okay with all of the main 3 and maybe Hiraki fullclaiming today.
Being all of {Roden, T3, Guillotina} fullciaming.
I realize that having three slots (maybe 4) fullclaim on D1 is unusual but this is a game with unusual circumstances. The multiball nature of the game + the prominence of those three (with the side of Hiraki) + the players who I feel are town no matter what narrows down things significantly enough that I genuinely feel it's worth it.
You will have to kill me first before I roleclaim. In your fucking dreams im gonna submit to your role fishing.
This game is gonna be hard because so far ive scum read 5-7 people and we cant have that many.
1) The only difference between town and scum is TMI.
2) If scum can do it, so can town, except TMI.
3) The best way to tell the truth in a game of lies is by lying and the best way to lie in a games of lies is by telling the truth.
2) If scum can do it, so can town, except TMI.
3) The best way to tell the truth in a game of lies is by lying and the best way to lie in a games of lies is by telling the truth.
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You are scum reading me and third party reading me and never ever have you considered to understand why im pushing you. Stop playing dumb Roden, the fact that i hard bus negative utility wolves for cred is not the discredit, it’s you trying to get over at any cost.In post 383, Roden wrote:Guillo how am I discrediting you if you're literally admitting I'm correct? Lol
1) The only difference between town and scum is TMI.
2) If scum can do it, so can town, except TMI.
3) The best way to tell the truth in a game of lies is by lying and the best way to lie in a games of lies is by telling the truth.
2) If scum can do it, so can town, except TMI.
3) The best way to tell the truth in a game of lies is by lying and the best way to lie in a games of lies is by telling the truth.
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And before you twist my words like you have been all day, no, im not scum this game.
1) The only difference between town and scum is TMI.
2) If scum can do it, so can town, except TMI.
3) The best way to tell the truth in a game of lies is by lying and the best way to lie in a games of lies is by telling the truth.
2) If scum can do it, so can town, except TMI.
3) The best way to tell the truth in a game of lies is by lying and the best way to lie in a games of lies is by telling the truth.
I'm a Visitor that fails if I target anyone other than Vision, the flavor being from the plot of the first episode where my character was coming over to Wanda and Vision's home for dinner. Vision knows if I successfully Visit them, and doing so also reveals to me who Wanda is. However, this doesn't inform me of either of their alignments.In post 386, Roden wrote:Btw I'm Todd Davis/Arthur Hart. My flavor is that I play the role of Vision's boss once reality gets altered by Wanda. I can role claim next if necessary, but my power is relatively weak.
I actually have considered why you're pushing me, and I came to the conclusion that it was for non-town reasons.In post 394, Guillotina wrote:You are scum reading me and third party reading me and never ever have you considered to understand why im pushing you. Stop playing dumb Roden, the fact that i hard bus negative utility wolves for cred is not the discredit, it’s you trying to get over at any cost.In post 383, Roden wrote:Guillo how am I discrediting you if you're literally admitting I'm correct? Lol
Where have I twisted your words?In post 395, Guillotina wrote:And before you twist my words like you have been all day, no, im not scum this game.