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Post Post #1250 (ISO) » Tue Oct 05, 2021 5:44 pm

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In post 1249, Morning Tweet wrote:So I don't care if imagine is town or not right now I care about you
Under what circumstances do I replace in and play like this?
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Post Post #1251 (ISO) » Tue Oct 05, 2021 5:44 pm

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In post 1248, House wrote:
In post 1243, Morning Tweet wrote:I'm not voting imaginality
Why does worst not vote S_S here?

Because regardless of who dies, scum loses a member.
No, because if the team is Bingle/imagine, voting SS loses.

It's a fringe case, but yeah. Worst's number one pick is imaginality. It make sense from a town PoV, it's NAI
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Post Post #1252 (ISO) » Tue Oct 05, 2021 5:44 pm

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In post 1250, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1249, Morning Tweet wrote:So I don't care if imagine is town or not right now I care about you
Under what circumstances do I replace in and play like this?
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Post Post #1253 (ISO) » Tue Oct 05, 2021 5:46 pm

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In post 1251, Morning Tweet wrote:
In post 1248, House wrote:
In post 1243, Morning Tweet wrote:I'm not voting imaginality
Why does worst not vote S_S here?

Because regardless of who dies, scum loses a member.
No, because if the team is Bingle/imagine, voting SS loses.

It's a fringe case, but yeah. Worst's number one pick is imaginality. It make sense from a town PoV, it's NAI
Bingle is a dark horse.

I'm banking on imaginality town.
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Post Post #1254 (ISO) » Tue Oct 05, 2021 5:46 pm

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Refusing to share reads initially but actually having extremely strong ones, defending tw and scumreading imaginality but not actually trying to kill him, refusing to compromise or change my reads at all during the course of the day
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Post Post #1255 (ISO) » Tue Oct 05, 2021 5:49 pm

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I feel like putting on a facade of reads without actually acting on them in any way is kind of scummy, yeah. Like, do you care about getting imagineality killed over tw? I honestly didn't even realize it til earlier today when I checked.
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Post Post #1256 (ISO) » Tue Oct 05, 2021 5:49 pm

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Also I don't see why you play that way as town either so I can't exactly award credit for that
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Post Post #1257 (ISO) » Tue Oct 05, 2021 5:50 pm

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In post 1255, Morning Tweet wrote:I feel like putting on a facade of reads without actually acting on them in any way is kind of scummy, yeah.
...but like, you've played with me before, right?
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Post Post #1258 (ISO) » Tue Oct 05, 2021 5:51 pm

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Imaginality isn't at E-1; it makes no difference whether I vote him now or not, except that it might allow a quickhammer.
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Post Post #1259 (ISO) » Tue Oct 05, 2021 5:51 pm

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I'm fine with you banking on imagineality town House but I'm more comfortable killing SS than worstie.

But if you're absolutely sure, I will switch, because we now know worstie isn't 8-ball, at least.

If you really believe SS is scum though, killing SS first leaves dark horse bingle alive in the end game I believe.

Kill town worst -> kill scum SS -> scum nightkills me or you -> Bingle/imagine/meoryou Xylo
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Post Post #1260 (ISO) » Tue Oct 05, 2021 5:51 pm

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S_S sure got chatty when MT voted him and started campaigning for mine.

Intriguing.
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Post Post #1261 (ISO) » Tue Oct 05, 2021 5:52 pm

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In post 1258, Something_Smart wrote:Imaginality isn't at E-1; it makes no difference whether I vote him now or not, except that it might allow a quickhammer.
It's not just like voting though, you have no presence or attempt to sway, no sense of urgency. Like from your PoV the worst wagon should have been a grave mistake and I deadass didn't notice.

But yes, I am aware your play tends to not be push-focused and is pretty observational.

If anything, that would help you towards null but certainly not town since this is how you tend to play always.
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Post Post #1262 (ISO) » Tue Oct 05, 2021 5:52 pm

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In post 1259, Morning Tweet wrote:But if you're absolutely sure, I will switch, because we now know worstie isn't 8-ball, at least.
I kinda want you to stay there, personally.

Keep both wagons in the danger zone.
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Post Post #1263 (ISO) » Tue Oct 05, 2021 5:53 pm

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It's almost liike SS is scum
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Post Post #1264 (ISO) » Tue Oct 05, 2021 5:53 pm

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yup, because I think my execution may not be inevitable

I only feel that way as one alignment, that's for damn sure.
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Post Post #1265 (ISO) » Tue Oct 05, 2021 5:53 pm

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In post 1261, Morning Tweet wrote:It's not just like voting though, you have no presence or attempt to sway, no sense of urgency.
In post 1257, Something_Smart wrote:...but like, you've played with me before, right?
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Post Post #1266 (ISO) » Tue Oct 05, 2021 5:53 pm

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In post 1262, House wrote:
In post 1259, Morning Tweet wrote:But if you're absolutely sure, I will switch, because we now know worstie isn't 8-ball, at least.
I kinda want you to stay there, personally.

Keep both wagons in the danger zone.
We want one in the danger zone not two, you know. That's unnecessary risk. There is no reason to be doing this. If someone other than you were to vote SS i would unvote probably as a snap reaction. The ball is in your court rn
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Post Post #1267 (ISO) » Tue Oct 05, 2021 5:53 pm

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In post 1265, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1261, Morning Tweet wrote:It's not just like voting though, you have no presence or attempt to sway, no sense of urgency.
In post 1257, Something_Smart wrote:...but like, you've played with me before, right?
So at best, NAI?
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Post Post #1268 (ISO) » Tue Oct 05, 2021 5:54 pm

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In post 1266, Morning Tweet wrote:
In post 1262, House wrote:
In post 1259, Morning Tweet wrote:But if you're absolutely sure, I will switch, because we now know worstie isn't 8-ball, at least.
I kinda want you to stay there, personally.

Keep both wagons in the danger zone.
We want one in the danger zone not two, you know. That's unnecessary risk. There is no reason to be doing this. If someone other than you were to vote SS i would unvote probably as a snap reaction. The ball is in your court rn
I'm kinda hoping someone does, actually.

On either wagon.

That would be informative in itself.
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Post Post #1269 (ISO) » Tue Oct 05, 2021 5:55 pm

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In post 1261, Morning Tweet wrote:If anything, that would help you towards null but certainly not town since this is how you tend to play always.
well I mean I listed a bunch of things that aren't that that seem like they'd just be putting up a neon "kill me!" sign as scum.

which may be, but my argument is kinda that if I'm scum I'm very likely to be the 8-ball playing this way. because I'm playing in a way that I would expect to get me killed. and why do I play that way when I could play a different way? do you not think that I would have received less pressure if I hadn't done some of the things I mentioned?
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Post Post #1270 (ISO) » Tue Oct 05, 2021 5:55 pm

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In post 1267, Morning Tweet wrote:So at best, NAI?
yes, the specific thing that you called scummy is NAI. the other things I mentioned are not
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Post Post #1271 (ISO) » Tue Oct 05, 2021 5:56 pm

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House your form of information requires us to gamble the game for no reasonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
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Post Post #1272 (ISO) » Tue Oct 05, 2021 5:56 pm

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In post 1269, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1261, Morning Tweet wrote:If anything, that would help you towards null but certainly not town since this is how you tend to play always.
well I mean I listed a bunch of things that aren't that that seem like they'd just be putting up a neon "kill me!" sign as scum.

which may be, but my argument is kinda that if I'm scum I'm very likely to be the 8-ball playing this way. because I'm playing in a way that I would expect to get me killed. and why do I play that way when I could play a different way? do you not think that I would have received less pressure if I hadn't done some of the things I mentioned?
why are you playing in a way that you expect to get killed for as any alignment??
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I mean gambling the game is inevitable. Why not do it sooner?
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In post 1271, Morning Tweet wrote:House your form of information requires us to gamble the game for no reasonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
+1 all you learn is whether someone is the 8-ball. which is not useful.
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