Slaughter Hour: The Grand Debut! | Fin

[skitter30]

uh you're looking at 2 different posts made hundreds of posts apart across several irl days in different gamestates

if you have specific issues about the trajectory and how gamma got from one pov to another that's fine but just saying 'oh he thought something different 600 posts prior!!!1!' is disingenuous

[skitter30]

galron .... why are you voting for yourself

[Taly]

skitter30

I think infinity is evil here

based on

Tonal read

really


REALLY

i hope you're town so i don't get accused of that post being scum theater

you think dwlee about to be flipped or…?

no just

down the line


anyway i got what i wanted out of this phase and i'm ready to move on, was just typing some thoughts up

This sounds like you knew this phase was coming.

shut the fuck up wolf

If that's what you want to do, that's fine.

Every reply from

peta

in this dialogue chain pings me more than the previous.

1934 sounds like challenging

Dwlee's

read on

Infinity

but 1935 throws me off from this idea because

peta's

focus shifts from defending

Infinity

to being scumread based off the idea

Dwlee

is town...

But

Dwlee

seems more closely in

peta's

PoE than not, so why set an expectation that

Dwlee

must be town for him to avoid scrutiny? The framing of the situation doesn't make sense to me and possibly informed. So I figured the post was self-conscious in the interest of

peta's

defense, not

Infinity's

. Which is a weird stance to take for town who disagrees with another townread being suspected.

The 1938 post does nothing to sway me from my above thought process. Why would

peta

be concerned with

"down-the-line"

when the setup was very unclear? Sure, he could be mislim bait, but there doesn't seem to be a binary elimination setup so far, so this post reads more of just

"stop paying attention to me"

more than

"I don't want to be misunderstood."

And when

Galron

actually calls him out on this, the aggression in 2025 feels very disproportional to the situation. If

peta

wasn't worried about being viewed as informed (in the idea that he actually wasn't), why does he spend energy trying to dismiss and antagonize someone he already scumreads? It reads in bad faith, and by this point, I've lost trust in most of

peta's

intention in the dialogue tree.

[Galron]

Kinda like dwlee. A lot of the same thoughts.

[Galron]

uh you're looking at 2 different posts made hundreds of posts apart across several irl days in different gamestates

if you have specific issues about the trajectory and how gamma got from one pov to another that's fine but just saying 'oh he thought something different 600 posts prior!!!1!' is disingenuous

If I recall correctly he was using those reads as a starting place for his ISOs.

[Taly]

Also, I have absolutely no clue if

Dunn

is reading this game beyond every two or third post that mentions him.

This isn't a slight at all, I just can't feel compelled to think he's town because he's returned to the exact same conversations as the previous game phases, and has added no additional content. The coasting feels scummy because it has worked in his favor.

[Galron]

galron .... why are you voting for yourself

I have a hunch.

[Taly]

Most vocal stagehand or suspicions from Pooky I can see are on Gamma, Dunnstral, and petapan. He also supported a S-S theory for the two leading wagons.

just gonna point out that even though i townread gamma at this point we technically we haven't really seen anything that disproves s/s

if they were actually svs wagons picking your partner and then sabotaging the flip is a great way to make you look unaligned in that situation

While I agree with this, a

Gamma/Galron

duel feels both like something scum would predict and a rehash from the chair vote. I'd like to see new contestants in the hot seat.

[Taly]

Kinda like dwlee. A lot of the same thoughts.

Do you think

Dwlee/peta

could be S-S?

[Galron]

Kinda like dwlee. A lot of the same thoughts.

Do you think

Dwlee/peta

could be S-S?

Doubt it. I think dwlee is town. Maybe peta too.

[Galron]

Kinda like dwlee. A lot of the same thoughts.

Do you think

Dwlee/peta

could be S-S?

Why ask that when I just finished saying I liked dwlee?

[Dwlee99]

Kinda like dwlee. A lot of the same thoughts.

What thoughts?

[Taly]

Kinda like dwlee. A lot of the same thoughts.

Do you think

Dwlee/peta

could be S-S?

Why ask that when I just finished saying I liked dwlee?

oh ha, I misread, I thought you were like

"hmmm, I feel what you feel about

peta

but toward

dwlee

"

and wanted to see if I could rule out associatives in regard to sorting you so I asked about two slots I've been uncertain of, I made an oopsie.

D:<

Don't think people see what I see at the moment. I want someone to help me find clarity.

[petapan]

i hope you're town so i don't get accused of that post being scum theater

you think dwlee about to be flipped or…?

no just

down the line


anyway i got what i wanted out of this phase and i'm ready to move on, was just typing some thoughts up

This sounds like you knew this phase was coming.

shut the fuck up wolf

Why are you mad at him if you think he's a stagehand doing his job?

because that post is ludicrously stupid shade, and in the moment it pissed me off so that i gave that response

when someone is arguing disingenuously you cannot just keep arguing on their terms because they'll keep twisting shit, so i break it off

and right here what galron is doing is fucking nonsense


"this sounds like you knew this phase was coming" is shading me for predicting that,

in a mafia game

, there would be a phase involving eliminating someone from the game. imagine being able to predict that. insane. impossible. how could anyone know

any rational minded person looks at that post and thinks nothing of it

however if your job is tell lies and get townies killed, you look at that post and try to spin it as coming from an informed perspective

[petapan]

I'm not interested in voting for Ydrasse or Gypyx. I don't like Infinity voting for Gypyx on the basis Gamma contestant means Prism more likely to be a stagehand.

Infinity, you've made this assumption twice now that the people pushing Gamma the most are more likely to be a stagehand now that Gamma is probably a contestant - first with me, and now with Prism. The problem with that is the fact stagehands knew how the chair in the first phase would work, and that it comes with a heavy risk of the chaired person simply OMGUS executing their pusher.

I'm sure stagehand Prism would have some more reservations of pushing Gamma so aggressively had she considered this factor, which I'm sure she would've.

you say you don't like it but do you think it makes infinity scummy

[Infinity 324]

VOTE: ydrasse

[Infinity 324]

i don't think we should really be worried too much about galron/ydrasse wanting to vote themselves, if they're scum there's a good chance they're just trying to make it seem like they want to be voted. it's unlikely the duel is actually a good thing

[Toogeloo]

Why did Gamma shoot Cephrir instead of shoot Galron again?

[Galron]

i hope you're town so i don't get accused of that post being scum theater

you think dwlee about to be flipped or…?

no just

down the line


anyway i got what i wanted out of this phase and i'm ready to move on, was just typing some thoughts up

This sounds like you knew this phase was coming.

shut the fuck up wolf

Why are you mad at him if you think he's a stagehand doing his job?

because that post is ludicrously stupid shade, and in the moment it pissed me off so that i gave that response

when someone is arguing disingenuously you cannot just keep arguing on their terms because they'll keep twisting shit, so i break it off

and right here what galron is doing is fucking nonsense


"this sounds like you knew this phase was coming" is shading me for predicting that,

in a mafia game

, there would be a phase involving eliminating someone from the game. imagine being able to predict that. insane. impossible. how could anyone know

any rational minded person looks at that post and thinks nothing of it

however if your job is tell lies and get townies killed, you look at that post and try to spin it as coming from an informed perspective

What I was saying was that you make it sound like you knew that there would be a spare/execute phase. Who knew that was coming? Why are you so upset that I would wonder how anyone knew that phase was next?

[Infinity 324]

Why did Gamma shoot Cephrir instead of shoot Galron again?

because he wasn't allowed to

[Galron]

i hope you're town so i don't get accused of that post being scum theater

you think dwlee about to be flipped or…?

no just

down the line


anyway i got what i wanted out of this phase and i'm ready to move on, was just typing some thoughts up

This sounds like you knew this phase was coming.

shut the fuck up wolf

Why are you mad at him if you think he's a stagehand doing his job?

because that post is ludicrously stupid shade, and in the moment it pissed me off so that i gave that response

when someone is arguing disingenuously you cannot just keep arguing on their terms because they'll keep twisting shit, so i break it off

and right here what galron is doing is fucking nonsense


"this sounds like you knew this phase was coming" is shading me for predicting that,

in a mafia game

, there would be a phase involving eliminating someone from the game. imagine being able to predict that. insane. impossible. how could anyone know

any rational minded person looks at that post and thinks nothing of it

however if your job is tell lies and get townies killed, you look at that post and try to spin it as coming from an informed perspective

And why are you so insulting? This is a game.

[Taly]

VOTE: petapan

[petapan]

Every reply from peta in this dialogue chain pings me more than the previous.

1934 sounds like challenging Dwlee's read on Infinity but 1935 throws me off from this idea because peta's focus shifts from defending Infinity to being scumread based off the idea Dwlee is town...

But Dwlee seems more closely in peta's PoE than not, so why set an expectation that Dwlee must be town for him to avoid scrutiny? The framing of the situation doesn't make sense to me and possibly informed. So I figured the post was self-conscious in the interest of peta's defense, not Infinity's. Which is a weird stance to take for town who disagrees with another townread being suspected.

The 1938 post does nothing to sway me from my above thought process. Why would peta be concerned with "down-the-line" when the setup was very unclear? Sure, he could be mislim bait, but there doesn't seem to be a binary elimination setup so far, so this post reads more of just "stop paying attention to me" more than "I don't want to be misunderstood."

And when Galron actually calls him out on this, the aggression in 2025 feels very disproportional to the situation. If peta wasn't worried about being viewed as informed (in the idea that he actually wasn't), why does he spend energy trying to dismiss and antagonize someone he already scumreads? It reads in bad faith, and by this point, I've lost trust in most of peta's intention in the dialogue tree.

taly respectfully this is hot nonsense and if you believe i'm an optimal kill over any of the people not playing it would be an absolute atrocity, especially when the case for me being scum here is so incredibly tenuous

preflip associatives are just awful to use and will lead you down a false path a majority of the time

first point: i wanted dwlee to elaborate on his scumread of infinity. "tonal read" is a really silly reason to be scumreading someone that deep into the game, but it also gives me nothing to work with. i didn't bother pressing him to elaborate, because i do not actually care what the reasoning behind a "tonal read" over 1000 posts into the game is. truthfully, him giving such a crappy explanation is probably +town but iwouldn't hang my hat on that

i already adressed the "down the line" point. it is nonsensical.

how the you read that exchange with galron and conclude

I'M

the one acting in bad faith, i have absolutely no idea

[petapan]

And why are you so insulting? This is a game.

i insulted your post and accused you of being a liar

cut the crocodile tears

[petapan]

i don't think we should really be worried too much about galron/ydrasse wanting to vote themselves, if they're scum there's a good chance they're just trying to make it seem like they want to be voted. it's unlikely the duel is actually a good thing

yes