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Post Post #225 (ISO) » Tue Oct 19, 2021 11:23 am

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Ah! I wondered if that was it. If that's based on old meta and you were hoping to get an easy town read off of that, I don't really implode anymore. I don't care about the game and how I'm read in the same way anymore.

No matter whether or not I'm having fun, I'll almost always address a serious question asked of me and will fluctuate moods. And I get called out for that particular thing pretty often. I'm used to it, and I expect to get grilled by Prism.
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Post Post #226 (ISO) » Tue Oct 19, 2021 11:29 am

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i was looking for the easy scumread handed to me on a silver platter but close enough i guess
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Post Post #227 (ISO) » Tue Oct 19, 2021 11:38 am

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wait so can I trust her or not?
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Post Post #228 (ISO) » Tue Oct 19, 2021 11:39 am

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In post 227, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:wait so can I trust her or not?
follow your heart
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Post Post #229 (ISO) » Tue Oct 19, 2021 11:46 am

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i kinda want someone to trust tammy so i can see how it goes but i don't wanna do it, you know?
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Post Post #230 (ISO) » Tue Oct 19, 2021 11:58 am

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Post Post #231 (ISO) » Tue Oct 19, 2021 12:05 pm

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I'm so tempted ngl
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Post Post #232 (ISO) » Tue Oct 19, 2021 12:05 pm

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In post 228, MafMen wrote:follow your heart
so you totally are who I thought you were :3
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Post Post #233 (ISO) » Tue Oct 19, 2021 12:09 pm

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Post Post #234 (ISO) » Tue Oct 19, 2021 12:09 pm

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Post Post #235 (ISO) » Tue Oct 19, 2021 12:10 pm

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you'll alt slip eventually
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Post Post #236 (ISO) » Tue Oct 19, 2021 12:13 pm

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i hate to disappoint you but im really not whoever you think i am
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Post Post #237 (ISO) » Tue Oct 19, 2021 12:14 pm

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im definitely interested in whoever this mystery person that apparently acts exactly like me is
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Post Post #238 (ISO) » Tue Oct 19, 2021 12:17 pm

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Dooo iiiiit
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Post Post #239 (ISO) » Tue Oct 19, 2021 12:20 pm

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so pockited
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Post Post #240 (ISO) » Tue Oct 19, 2021 12:21 pm

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I would but I have so much music to play for you still

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Post Post #241 (ISO) » Tue Oct 19, 2021 12:22 pm

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In post 130, Tammy wrote:I'm not solving right now. I'm not really one to attempt to solve in the first few pages of the game.
I don't like to do it, nor am I good at it.
I typically think most people look scummy in the first few pages of the game because I can't tell the difference between people pretending to solve and people trying to get the game started. Unless something really jumps out at me, like your entrance in Warehouse 13, I pretty much view everything early game as neutral noise that I'll look back at later when I actually get serious. I used to try because I thought I needed to be aggressive to be town read, but I hated it, so now I play in a way that I enjoy and is comfortable for me.
I am so confused but I guess there is much to learn about a Tammatha. I feel like this is scummy but I will give it more time.
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Post Post #242 (ISO) » Tue Oct 19, 2021 12:26 pm

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In post 133, Tammy wrote:I understood what you meant and
was expecting you to call me out for it.
literally what
In post 133, Tammy wrote:The theory question wasn't so much of a theory question as me trying to understand your mindset. That's not quite right, but I've drank a lot of tea and too much caffeine makes me tweaky and that's the best I got. I can't quite word what exactly I was looking for with that question or if it would have helped me in any way, but I'm pretty sure you've stated before that you prefer to be the first one to go in a mafia team which I thought was interesting because you do have a strong scum game. So, you saying that you would prefer to go last felt a little incongruous with that previous statement and I wondered if it was due to the game mechanic or if it could be alignment relevant.
I agree that the incongruity was worth questioning, but do not know how to interpret the response given how wildly offbase some of this has been to me.

While the difference was explained more by the EM vs. MS treatment of my play trust fall is a setup that it doesn't work as well in mechanically, either, as you can't induce town to burn miselims like crazy and instead have to more actively convince them your partner is town.
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Post Post #243 (ISO) » Tue Oct 19, 2021 12:30 pm

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In post 182, MafMen wrote: (
prism
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prism
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(everyone else)
(tammy)
()
heres some helpful brackets for later to express my reads guys
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Post Post #244 (ISO) » Tue Oct 19, 2021 12:31 pm

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In post 185, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:i don't think I can emotionally recover if Tammy really is mafia here
Do you think anything she's done so far is particularly towny or is this just horsing around?
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Post Post #245 (ISO) » Tue Oct 19, 2021 12:31 pm

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the top one was meant to be wisdom

he can't tell the two of you apart
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Post Post #246 (ISO) » Tue Oct 19, 2021 12:31 pm

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In post 192, MafMen wrote:also i for some reason wrote prism twice
the top prism in my brackets is meant to be wisdom
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Post Post #247 (ISO) » Tue Oct 19, 2021 12:32 pm

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In post 244, Prism wrote:
In post 185, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:i don't think I can emotionally recover if Tammy really is mafia here
Do you think anything she's done so far is particularly towny or is this just horsing around?
there's no statement of my read on her in that post, i'll just be super sad if she's mafia.
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Post Post #248 (ISO) » Tue Oct 19, 2021 12:35 pm

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In post 241, Prism wrote:
In post 130, Tammy wrote:I'm not solving right now. I'm not really one to attempt to solve in the first few pages of the game.
I don't like to do it, nor am I good at it.
I typically think most people look scummy in the first few pages of the game because I can't tell the difference between people pretending to solve and people trying to get the game started. Unless something really jumps out at me, like your entrance in Warehouse 13, I pretty much view everything early game as neutral noise that I'll look back at later when I actually get serious. I used to try because I thought I needed to be aggressive to be town read, but I hated it, so now I play in a way that I enjoy and is comfortable for me.
I am so confused but I guess there is much to learn about a Tammatha. I feel like this is scummy but I will give it more time.
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In post 1356, petapan wrote:well the process was raelizing i don't actually remember anything about how you play, which made me realize i didn't remember anything you've done this game, which led me to read back on you and realize i don't townread you and i'm not sure why anyone does. i didn't have any serious intentions of attempting to wagon you (i was going giving you and diamondsentinel the "first game off a hiatus" d1 pass regardless of my read), but felt the need to express that read in a visible fashion
I actually expected you to scum read or not town read my early game. I'm not much of an early game solver; I used to try to be but it really didn't fit me, so I settled back into floating through the early game in a more observational way because it's more me. I imagine the reason the people are town reading me has more to do with my scum game and its deficiencies than I'm objectively town right now. (It's sad, but I was out of my scum range on like page 5, for reasons even the people here who know me might not know.) That doesn't matter though because hopefully my town mojo is not completely lost and it'll be cool soon enough.
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Post Post #249 (ISO) » Tue Oct 19, 2021 12:35 pm

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In post 222, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I've literally never misread Wisdom or Prism in my life
I will circle back to this another day.
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