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[Salsabil Faria]

579 is vaguely kind of townie for geraintm? maybe? should i be townleaning a player for giving thoughts on day 1 after repeatedly saying they hate day 1? andres help pls

my post 579 is no different to other games ive played where i've kept a track of bad posts on day 1. i think in the past ive used it to try and give me pointers on where to look day 2.
though i have almost always been wrong, so maybe i should be using them to look elsehwere?

You're wrong on me again.

Btw, I also have

gera

meta, played once with them. They were inactive throughout that game because of rl work. Meanwhile they appeared as ic and tunneled me from D1.

[Salsabil Faria]

Sely

seems genuine in page 26, as in she actually believes what she is thinking/posting.

[Salsabil Faria]

Daitsi, Ico, Gamma, Three, Andre/A50

This actually feels quite solid
Only slot I’m even vaguely questioning is A50 and he’s active at least, so he should be readable as time passses

Good job

GE

, towncore achieved! Now I understand your

Wiki

hard love....

[Gamma Emerald]

What scum would do all the shit Wiki has done, especially newbscum?

I don't have any meta on them, so can't tell if they're new or not.
But what about traitor?

Probably not that either. Only thing I could reasonably call a traitor ploy is the daycop thing, but that was not executed in any way I’d expect it to be done if it were one.

[Wiki]

Salsa, dont play only using meta. It is not reliably at all. It works mostly only with noobs and until they decide to try hard to copy their meta or play in different styles every game not depending on their role. I know many players who love scum role so much and meta usually doesnt work, their game is so balanced. It is better to use logics in every moment of reading a person.

[Salsabil Faria]

Read up to page 15, page 12 & 13 made my day
Now, I can see why

Wiki

is obvtown (I can't stop laughing!!)

Btw, it’s raise a question towards

GE

, I was way less hostile/destructive but you decided to not play with me anymore or even talk to me. But for

Wiki

, you're way more generous! Is you bad player jail got full? Or your

stance

chang when you rolled scum?

[Salsabil Faria]

T3

feels townie due to meta, not sure about

Dwlee

because of their bias scumread on me.

Andres

also seems town.

[Salsabil Faria]

Salsa, dont play only using meta. It is not reliably at all. It works mostly only with noobs and until they decide to try hard to copy their meta or play in different styles every game not depending on their role. I know many players who love scum role so much and meta usually doesnt work, their game is so balanced. It is better to use logics in every moment of reading a person.

Logics are bad

[Iconeum]

Oh, finally! A wagon on a scummy slot

VOTE: A50

Oh, finally! A wagon on a scummy slot

VOTE: A50

We broke you? Well, you signed for it so be a nice person and unvote yourself...you signed for this, you have to finish playing it.

1- Who are you referring to by "we"?? Because I don't see your vote on me.
2- How do you know I'm not "playing it" still? What does my self-vote tell you? How do you perceive it?

this is likely to be town!A50

[Iconeum]

so the scumteam's plan is for me to hard defend dwlee from your attacks (which don't have nearly enough support to actually go through anyway), and then me, dorsey, and gamma just baselessly start bussing in random directions? can't wait to get our scummy for that brilliant play.

we're all seeing wiki's nonsensical lists, but are they scummy? i don't think so?

[Datisi]

sorry if i misread their posts here, but it didnt feel random to me with their back to back posts

i decided to believe her post saying the vote was random (since even if she's scum, i don't see much scum motivation for lying about it, as she would have to either unvote or find actual reasoning for the vote)

while your vote was framed as purely for the guilty and (more importantly) it was already saying that you would votepark wiki if they retracted. it felt tmi, like scum who saw a townie fakeguilting another townie and decided to use that as an ez place for the d1 vote.

[Datisi]

kinda feeling selynee is scummy at start of page 6, her posting so far seems like mostly aimless questions with little-to-no follow up

I didnt like the moment when she tried to push the idea, that there is 1 scum in Dwlee and Wiki. There is not enough info for that, I said that they can be a townie. She could say it as a scum hoping that both these guys will be elimed one after another, ignoring that we are not 100% sure about each other.

Btw, she wasnt first who said that, Three was the first, she continued his thought, repeated it, but he made this conclusion easy from his thoughts and was very emotional. So her post is stranger.

The only thing I need to know now is Three experienced alt or just a new player with the lack of experience? Because only in the second case I can believe he really doesnt understand and truly reacts so much...

uh, neither of them said that? i'm assuming you're talking about 208 and 213 - both of these posts are saying "if one of wiki/dwlee is scum, the other is town", neither is saying that there *has* to be scum between you two?

@three, you (either accidentally or conveniently) missed this post. i did think sel was scummy for her posts back then. but even then i can recognize when her posts were getting misconstructed. she never said there had to be scum between dwlee/wiki, that's what i was calling out. like, just because i think someone is scum for their posts, doesn't mean i don't see when their posts are being misunderstood and that i won't call it out

[Datisi]

What changed that made you decide her earlier logic was more sound than you originally thought?

like this annoys me because i never said her logic wasn't sound, she was scum *despite* because surprise, scum can make arguments that are logically sound

[Datisi]

obviously i don't find her as scummy as i did earlier but you see my point

[Datisi]

What do you think she's saying?

I do have other reads, yes.

Can you explain the thought process behind your vote here?

oh my god

so you accused her of pocketing andres, right?

and she said that she finds it nice that you think scum!her would be able to pocket someone

and then you reply with "aha, so you're saying you think you could pocket someone!"

which (1) clearly isn't what she was saying, she was just saying your thoughts are nice and not agreeing with them, and (2) even if she was saying that, how is that a scumclaim? like, i think scum!me here would be able to pocket players like ico or t3, am i now lockscum too?

[Iconeum]

and tbh i don't even remember the part about andres and i haven't bothered checking back so

p sure it was about me "letting you off easy" or something along those lines

like i think you quoted him and said that it pinged you as well, then later on commented a similar thought
but you also said you *wanted* to townread me

so i don't get your thoughts there >_>

i don't get my thoughts either, sometimes

letting me off easy pinged me, yet i don't really scumread you for it. It's not that kind of ping? More like 'huh, that's an odd one, i wonder what it means' kinda ping

me understanding someone nullreading you stands, as i don't think you've obvtowned at this point.

[Datisi]

my thought process behind the vote is that you keep misconstructing people's arguments to the point i have a hard time believing you genuinely think what you're saying, especially since you claimed you have decent experience. and you seem to have zero reads besides sel. like it reeks of scum who is trying to appear busy by "tunneling" someone, and doing it with godawful arguments too

so what are your reads besides sel?

[Datisi]

the "you" in the above post is obviously three, btw.

ico, wanna join me on this wagon?

also, how is that town!a50?

[Datisi]

@salsa, white knighting is when a person (generally scum) defneds someone (generally town) under fire

why are you ing at that? like, explain to me why fakeclaiming daycop is scummy.

[Datisi]

And I'm not avoiding anything, those 4's scumread on me is biased af, so it’s not out of the context to state that if any of them is scum, they're using this to miseliminate me.

do you think that those 4 people are scummy for their read on you?

[Datisi]

What scum would do all the shit Wiki has done, especially newbscum?

i thought wiki had hundreds of game experience

btw, fucking lol at wiki preaching using logic to play the game.

[Salsabil Faria]

Tbf, I also didn’t get what

Sely

was saying at first using different phrases but now that I questioned her, the confusion get cleared.
Interesting fact is that, why

Three

still can't understand what she is saying where I joined late and understood her saying already.

@Three

mainly....

[Iconeum]

VOTE: A50

I’m VLA until tomorrow btw.

why

[Iconeum]

@Datisi I haven’t fully caught up but I saw your cry for help so why not.

I would lean positively on anybody contributing in what you perceive to be a Townie manner despite previous experience dictating that such a player tends to avoid doing that (in this case, geraintm).

i'm trying to remember if town!gera actually does contribute from time to time on d1. i'll probably do a cursory meta check if gera starts picking up votes again.

also the reason i asked you specifically is since you mentioned having gera meta knowledge, so. y'know.

pedit: i'm townleaning you rn, yes. but you're also the only person to specifically mention gera-meta, so who else do i ask.

i actually vaguely remembering a discussion with gera on D1 where he actually did start contributing and playing on D1 as town so yeah

[Wiki]

why are you ing at that? like, explain to me why fakeclaiming daycop is scummy.

you are so scum datisi.