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[Wiki]

yeah his second rvs is so important, it should be quoted of course

of all you've quoted only this makes sense "would probably have been voting her, had wiki not been as scummy as he's being"

[Three]

You asked if Datisi ever thought you were scummy. It's been clear that he's been evaluating you since the start, if nothing else you can't say there isn't progression.

[Wiki]

Datisi, give your trs

[Wiki]

Dozens of games, if you are so interested.

Lots of vague answers.

Okay, fine. I’ll assume you’re experienced but I won’t ask you to point to other games you’ve played in because it’s clear you don’t want to share that, which means you want to be viewed purely through your play in this game. Though I can accept that, it still leaves open the question as to why you’re so happy to discredit DW’s skills as Town when from my personal experience, they’re definitely better than average.

Wow Andres you're flattering me

Dwlee, was it strange for you?

[Gamma Emerald]

Read up to page 15, page 12 & 13 made my day
Now, I can see why

Wiki

is obvtown (I can't stop laughing!!)

Btw, it’s raise a question towards

GE

, I was way less hostile/destructive but you decided to not play with me anymore or even talk to me. But for

Wiki

, you're way more generous! Is you bad player jail got full? Or your

stance

chang when you rolled scum?

I could see the town motive for Wiki’s actions way easier than for yours.

[Gamma Emerald]

"Lie is a bad thing" - this is a newbie level of thinking.
More important what does it mean on the next levels.
What aims do scums have?
Everything they are doing is forced by their aims.
What aim to fakeclaim early?
I would think firstly that this a very scummy thing for one strong reason.
But nobody here thinks about it.
And Datisi's words that this is obv towns action - are the most suspicious reaction for now. Because it definitely not obv if to think about it really, about all options, looking on the situation from pov of possible scum!wiki. What aim can he have in this moment? What does scum!wiki need to achieve/know?
U dont think about it, u are pretending stupid , defending me like it is obv cannot be scum. This is not true


I have no time to talk now ugh

you could argue the claim is NAI. I'd say it's anywhere between more likely to come from town and NAI.
your fighting is all kinds of weird

So why’d you vote him

[Wiki]

Townping from Selynee tho

basicly all of dwlee's posts make me go all
facepalm

i don't like you

i don't like you

Not a reason to SR someone. If anything, DW’s start is more Town indicative than not.

i don't need to fully scumread someone to vote their asses in this stage of the game, now do i

andres and wiki

i'd also townbin these 2, and by extention give some town cred to dwlee then and just trust on andres a bit.
GE's opening is fine to me.
Datisi i just *wanna* townread ya know
I have no clue on how to read T3 here

no other notable shotgun reads come to mind

VOTE: selynee
yeah

Scums: Gamma, Dwlee, Datisi.

do you have some kind of wacky post restriction that only allows you to post townreads as scumreads?

i don't even know

if you'd be nulling datisi, i could get that
if you'd be nulling gamma, i could get that
Dwlee has been playing a pattern that points to them being town, not scum. You even faked a guilty to some extent… why do you want them out?

we're all seeing wiki's nonsensical lists, but are they scummy? i don't think so?

No. There is the more logical answer, why usually this is a scummy thing.
And I so dont like, when someone is pretending stupid.

VOTE: wiki

look at these posts in chronology
1. ico forgot that selynee has townpings for him (#65), ico voted sely after saying this (#354) with no reasons. this was the moment when wiki claimed a cop, ico voted wiki, then he saw that there is no sense to do it and he voted to sely, but he forgot that he considers sely to be town for him!
2. ico forgot that most of the way wiki is town for ico, ico is voting wiki. i didnt care about it in the moment when i was a fakecop, but now after all you've said about townreading you and with no much your townreading datisi your new vote to me is suspicious very much!
3. ico didnt like dwlee much (#86, 98), then he changed his mind listening to andre very much (#108) and dwlee somehow become lock town for him (#589), dwlee is more town for him than datisi and gamma!
4. if dwlee is not a scum for ico, ico either has no srs, or his srs are: dorsey,gera,salsa,t3,three as remainder. but ico doesnt vote in this sector, he votes players who are/were townies for him!

VOTE: Iconeum
i need to change my srs, need some time
ico is mafia

andre-datisi-gamma - at least one scum is here, because all of them tred ico

[Wiki]

So why’d you vote him

good question

[Wiki]

but now after all you've said about townreading you

...townreading me

[Gamma Emerald]

I don't see the obvious A50 town thing ico.

okay, so sell me on scum!A50? i don't see it

In my pervious games with them, they were more active as town. I don’t have scum meta on them though but they're lurking for some reason and the self vote is weird.

You’re right that lurky A50 is scum A50

[Gamma Emerald]

Dwlee, Datisi, Ico? If so, gamma easily can be a scum for huge mistakes

Yeah you’re fucking off-base if you seriously think read accuracy is a good way to read people in general

[Wiki]

Ico trs: seny,andre,wiki,gamma,datisi,a50, dwlee (firstly he sred him).
Ico's votes: datisi,a50,dwlee,wiki,sely,wiki

Ico is mafia

[Gamma Emerald]

He see no reasons to think that fakeclaiming is scummy because he is trying to pocket me.
If he was town, he wouldn't be so sure that fakeclaiming is not scummy. He would think about all possibilities.

I don't see the obvious A50 town thing ico.

okay, so sell me on scum!A50? i don't see it

In my pervious games with them, they were more active as town. I don’t have scum meta on them though but they're lurking for some reason and the self vote is weird.

Meh, I think they don't really enjoy this game. Seemed like they were looking for some reactions to their self-vote, though not pushing a lot there...

This seems like a decent post

[Gamma Emerald]

That was about the Selynee post (not that Wiki’s is bad, mind)

[Wiki]

This seems like a decent post

pocketing a50?

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Icon

[Gamma Emerald]

This seems like a decent post

pocketing a50?

Who, Sely? Don’t exactly think so. I think the point about getting reactions from the self vote is smart.

[Almost50]

Thread activity dying out of nowhere.

@A50:

Can you explain why you voted yourself and then dipped out of the thread?

For you only:

I HATE IT when people use my activity to try and read me. I said it over and over again in the past: My activity has a dozen factors affecting it, and half of them are not even game-related. The other half would include the players list, and this one doesn't help me do my thing (which is troll and joke).

So, if people insist on using meta to read me, and if they insist on using the activity bit of the meta (you know meta has a lot more components that just activity level), then they should learn it the hard way. I am NOT going to defend myself over 5-6 games just because people want to be lazy and follow the wrong lead.

Andres for instance is one player who is a certified lurker, and if I used his activity level as a lead then I'd be eliminating him on D1 each and every game, because (A) Lurkers are +rand Scum (or you could rephrase it as "there's almost always a lurking Scum"), and (B) if he's not lurking then he's departing from his Town meta.

So, if Scum are pushing me and Town are falling for it then TOWN needs to be punished, and they will hopefully learn NOT to do it in the future.

IF Town is pushing me then they are handing the game to Scum, and I'm not going to fight BOTH factions over it. Again; a good lesson should be learnt.

Now if you want to find Scum you should be looking at Datisi/Wiki/Icon (probably just ONE of these is Scum, and my best guess is Datisi)

Another is in Dorsy/Ger (it's a 50-50 split for me)

I think Salsabil/Sylenee/Gamma should have the remaining 2 Scums in them

[Almost50]

Forgot to say Dwlee is always a wild card. I can't read him and there's no one in this game that I can trust could read him for me to sheep

[Almost50]

What scum would do all the shit Wiki has done, especially newbscum?

In isolation I'd say this is Town Gamma, unless Gamma wants to pocket Wiki for some odd reason.

[Wiki]

Who, Sely? Don’t exactly think so. I think the point about getting reactions from the self vote is smart.

ignore, i was confused and thought it was a post of Ico, not Sely. yeah, sely is not bad sometime

[Wiki]

Elim Ico

Check/block/shoot or smth here: Datisi/Salsa.

[ChaosOmega]

Votecount 1.06

Almost50 (4) - T3, Andresvmb, Salsabil Faria, Almost50
Three (2) - Selynee, Datisi
Iconeum (2) - Wiki, Gamma Emerald
Salsabil Faria (1) - Three
geraintm (1) - Dwlee99
Wiki (1) - Iconeum
Dwlee99 (1) - geraintm
Datisi (1) - Dorsey

Not Voting (0) -

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to eliminate someone.

Deadline

: (expired on 2021-10-31 06:52:46)

[Dwlee99]

Can we vote gera

[Salsabil Faria]

I don't see the obvious A50 town thing ico.

okay, so sell me on scum!A50? i don't see it

In my pervious games with them, they were more active as town. I don’t have scum meta on them though but they're lurking for some reason and the self vote is weird.

Meh, I think they don't really enjoy this game. Seemed like they were looking for some reactions to their self-vote, though not pushing a lot there...

Hmm can be, who do you propose to vote instead?

This feels pretty scum indicative. I don't know how you could be so lost on who to vote for that you need someone to tell you who to vote.

VOTE: Salsa

That's not happened here what you think. You really have understanding problem or you are desperate scum, looking for anything to push.