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Post Post #3975 (ISO) » Fri Oct 22, 2021 8:59 am

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Gammagooey's
town.

There. I contributed a read to this game today. Bye.

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Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 3940, Taly wrote:
In post 3932, Dwlee99 wrote:Another inconsistency with Skitter's "infinity is town because Dunn vote!" Thing when I voted Dunn way before that and was pushing him to be part of the duel very hard
Actually yeah

You and I WERE the strongest pushers on
Dunn
Event 2.
I’m pretty sure most of the time I was pushing Dunn as well
I did try to put Saber against Toog at one point but that was because unwnd wanted a saber flip
*skims your ISO and nods head*


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Post Post #3976 (ISO) » Fri Oct 22, 2021 8:59 am

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In post 3972, Harley Quinn wrote:Oh yes, your partner wound up being scum in that.
What’s your point in bringing that up?
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Post Post #3977 (ISO) » Fri Oct 22, 2021 9:01 am

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In post 3973, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 3940, Taly wrote:
In post 3932, Dwlee99 wrote:Another inconsistency with Skitter's "infinity is town because Dunn vote!" Thing when I voted Dunn way before that and was pushing him to be part of the duel very hard
Actually yeah

You and I WERE the strongest pushers on
Dunn
Event 2.
I’m pretty sure most of the time I was pushing Dunn as well
I did try to put Saber against Toog at one point but that was because unwnd wanted a saber flip
Why do I get Sigfreid and Roy images when I read this? :lol:
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Post Post #3978 (ISO) » Fri Oct 22, 2021 9:02 am

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In post 3976, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 3972, Harley Quinn wrote:Oh yes, your partner wound up being scum in that.
What’s your point in bringing that up?
???

Because it’s true?

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Post Post #3979 (ISO) » Fri Oct 22, 2021 9:04 am

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In post 3975, Taly wrote:
Gammagooey's
town.

There. I contributed a read to this game today. Bye.

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Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 3940, Taly wrote:
In post 3932, Dwlee99 wrote:Another inconsistency with Skitter's "infinity is town because Dunn vote!" Thing when I voted Dunn way before that and was pushing him to be part of the duel very hard
Actually yeah

You and I WERE the strongest pushers on
Dunn
Event 2.
I’m pretty sure most of the time I was pushing Dunn as well
I did try to put Saber against Toog at one point but that was because unwnd wanted a saber flip
*skims your ISO and nods head*


Do you think Blue or Pink team has more scum?
I need to do my holistic analysis but I feel like blue team might have more scum
Toog was basically the only one in pink team I actively felt was scum during the nomination phase, I was only willing to put up Ulyana because I TRed infinity more than her
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Post Post #3980 (ISO) » Fri Oct 22, 2021 9:04 am

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In post 3978, Harley Quinn wrote:
In post 3976, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 3972, Harley Quinn wrote:Oh yes, your partner wound up being scum in that.
What’s your point in bringing that up?
???

Because it’s true?

Wut
What does it have to do with this game though?
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Post Post #3981 (ISO) » Fri Oct 22, 2021 9:06 am

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In post 3979, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 3975, Taly wrote:
Gammagooey's
town.

There. I contributed a read to this game today. Bye.

p-edit

Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 3940, Taly wrote:
In post 3932, Dwlee99 wrote:Another inconsistency with Skitter's "infinity is town because Dunn vote!" Thing when I voted Dunn way before that and was pushing him to be part of the duel very hard
Actually yeah

You and I WERE the strongest pushers on
Dunn
Event 2.
I’m pretty sure most of the time I was pushing Dunn as well
I did try to put Saber against Toog at one point but that was because unwnd wanted a saber flip
*skims your ISO and nods head*


Do you think Blue or Pink team has more scum?
I need to do my holistic analysis but I feel like blue team might have more scum
Toog was basically the only one in pink team I actively felt was scum during the nomination phase, I was only willing to put up Ulyana because I TRed infinity more than her
Might actually cry if
Dwlee/Skitter/Infinity
are all town like I began the Pink Team PT believing.
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Post Post #3982 (ISO) » Fri Oct 22, 2021 9:06 am

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In post 3980, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 3978, Harley Quinn wrote:
In post 3976, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 3972, Harley Quinn wrote:Oh yes, your partner wound up being scum in that.
What’s your point in bringing that up?
???

Because it’s true?

Wut
What does it have to do with this game though?
Nothing, your point?
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Post Post #3983 (ISO) » Fri Oct 22, 2021 9:07 am

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In post 3968, Taly wrote:I think
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i'm doing fine tbh

feeling a little guilty over certain stuff (and embarrassed by the altslip but that's w/e)

but nothing major, i'm not tilted or feeling down. how i am responding to skitter is slightly petty but i do believe she'd be able to read me better and has made absolutely no effort to try to, it's a rational view even if it doesn't seem like one.
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Post Post #3984 (ISO) » Fri Oct 22, 2021 9:09 am

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In post 3982, Harley Quinn wrote:
In post 3980, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 3978, Harley Quinn wrote:
In post 3976, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 3972, Harley Quinn wrote:Oh yes, your partner wound up being scum in that.
What’s your point in bringing that up?
???

Because it’s true?

Wut
What does it have to do with this game though?
Nothing, your point?
I recall thinking my partner was town this game, so it feels like you’re trying to discredit my judgment.
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Post Post #3985 (ISO) » Fri Oct 22, 2021 9:10 am

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Post Post #3986 (ISO) » Fri Oct 22, 2021 9:15 am

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In post 3975, Taly wrote:Gammagooey's town.

There. I contributed a read to this game today. Bye.
slot's been hard town for a while
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Post Post #3987 (ISO) » Fri Oct 22, 2021 9:16 am

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If someone disagrees on my scumreads they need to explain why my townreads are wrong
I prefer they, thanks :)
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Post Post #3988 (ISO) » Fri Oct 22, 2021 9:19 am

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In post 3987, Dwlee99 wrote:If someone disagrees on my scumreads they need to explain why my townreads are wrong
do you townread harley and toog?
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Post Post #3989 (ISO) » Fri Oct 22, 2021 9:19 am

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In post 3984, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 3982, Harley Quinn wrote:
In post 3980, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 3978, Harley Quinn wrote:
In post 3976, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 3972, Harley Quinn wrote:Oh yes, your partner wound up being scum in that.
What’s your point in bringing that up?
???

Because it’s true?

Wut
What does it have to do with this game though?
Nothing, your point?
I recall thinking my partner was town this game, so it feels like you’re trying to discredit my judgment.
Dude, I have absolutely no clue what you’re talking about.
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Post Post #3990 (ISO) » Fri Oct 22, 2021 9:22 am

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In post 3974, Harley Quinn wrote:
In post 3967, Gammagooey wrote:sheesh

Harley I know you've got an ungodly amount of reading in front of you and I don't/won't begrudge you for skipping around, but "two dueling scum is unlikely" is some of the laziest analysis I've heard in a while

Maybe start 10/15 pages back from the duel participants getting chosen and read from there? Or start with the blue PT where Infinity was chosen as an execution nominee for this event and see if you get any reads from that?
Well, in general, when you have two wagons and one flips scum, the cw tends to be town. I’ve seen very few games with two competing scum wagons.
it's uncommon, but of course it's uncommon - there are a lot more town than scum in the game. And it still happens ocassionally- hell, the 2nd link here has the main wagon on scum and BOTH counterwagons on scum in a 1-scumteam large theme: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p11937201 , https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 4#p6617334

It's not even necessarily wrong, it's just a lazy assumption that you shouldn't build off of unless/until you have context or other reasons that make those wagons unlikely to be SvS.
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In post 3975, Taly wrote:Gammagooey's town.

There. I contributed a read to this game today. Bye.
slot's been hard town for a while
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Post Post #3991 (ISO) » Fri Oct 22, 2021 9:24 am

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i just wanted to reinforce the statement
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Post Post #3992 (ISO) » Fri Oct 22, 2021 9:24 am

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In post 3988, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 3987, Dwlee99 wrote:If someone disagrees on my scumreads they need to explain why my townreads are wrong
do you townread harley and toog?
I townread saber but I'm open to having my mind changed there. No on toog
I prefer they, thanks :)
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Post Post #3993 (ISO) » Fri Oct 22, 2021 9:30 am

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In post 3990, Gammagooey wrote:
In post 3974, Harley Quinn wrote:
In post 3967, Gammagooey wrote:sheesh

Harley I know you've got an ungodly amount of reading in front of you and I don't/won't begrudge you for skipping around, but "two dueling scum is unlikely" is some of the laziest analysis I've heard in a while

Maybe start 10/15 pages back from the duel participants getting chosen and read from there? Or start with the blue PT where Infinity was chosen as an execution nominee for this event and see if you get any reads from that?
Well, in general, when you have two wagons and one flips scum, the cw tends to be town. I’ve seen very few games with two competing scum wagons.
it's uncommon, but of course it's uncommon - there are a lot more town than scum in the game. And it still happens ocassionally- hell, the 2nd link here has the main wagon on scum and BOTH counterwagons on scum in a 1-scumteam large theme: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p11937201 , https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 4#p6617334

It's not even necessarily wrong, it's just a lazy assumption that you shouldn't build off of unless/until you have context or other reasons that make those wagons unlikely to be SvS.
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In post 3975, Taly wrote:Gammagooey's town.

There. I contributed a read to this game today. Bye.
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let taly have this ok
Sure fine, I’m not locking it in or anything but I have to start somewhere, so sure it’s “lazy” but it’s the best that I’ve got until I catch up more. Statistically, it’s not that terrible of an assumption though. Now if I locked it in and didn’t do any further analysis, I’d agree with you but cut me some slack for now.
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Post Post #3994 (ISO) » Fri Oct 22, 2021 9:33 am

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In post 3992, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 3988, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 3987, Dwlee99 wrote:If someone disagrees on my scumreads they need to explain why my townreads are wrong
do you townread harley and toog?
I townread saber but I'm open to having my mind changed there. No on toog
Can you please call me Harley? Everytime I hear that name I get tiger visions. Thanks.
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Post Post #3995 (ISO) » Fri Oct 22, 2021 9:41 am

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the thing about skitter's analysis here is that it's totally irrational

my read shift on dunn is bad and makes me scum but infinity is somehow town for their timing despite their shift making even less sense and coming
after
i said that i wanted dunn. somehow two people whose trajectory on dunnstral is not all that dissimilar get totally opposite reads

when presented with the evidence that i put dunn over so that he'd be in the duel in the first place, she blows past it and says she doesn't care. anyone who actually cared about trying to read into people's alignments this game would try to resolve the cognitive dissonance there.



she thinks most of the scum are in the blue room but anyone actually observing the game would be hard pressed to name someone i am partnered with

it is obviously not gammagooey, i would not hard tunnel galron/unwnd as my partner while defending dunnstral
it is not ydrasse for similar reasons
it is very obviously not cakez for similar reasons

it feels gross to anti-align myself this way but it is very clearly not the saber slot

so who does that leave? you could say gamma emerald. but i think most people agree he is town anyway. so that's out.

that leaves...gypyx? i don't think there's anything that makes me obviously not teamed with gypyx but that's a real narrow solve to be advocating and still leaves one in the pink room, i don't know if she's even claiming to scumread gypyx either

the thing is i don't think she's worked through this or cares about it at all because rational analysis would hae to conclude i don't make much sense as scum. but that is an inconvenient conclusion for her so she's avoiding this stuff

so instead she is advocating
incredibly strongly
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incredibly thin
evidence. the confidence level is absurdly disproportionate to the amount of reasons she has to scumread me, and that is because it is not a real read
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Post Post #3996 (ISO) » Fri Oct 22, 2021 9:42 am

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In post 3992, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 3988, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 3987, Dwlee99 wrote:If someone disagrees on my scumreads they need to explain why my townreads are wrong
do you townread harley and toog?
I townread saber but I'm open to having my mind changed there. No on toog
ok i feel like harley has come into the game being super defensive and being very performative about not knowing info about the setup, and she also gave a really surface level reason to townread toog
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Post Post #3997 (ISO) » Fri Oct 22, 2021 9:43 am

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In post 3994, Harley Quinn wrote:
In post 3992, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 3988, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 3987, Dwlee99 wrote:If someone disagrees on my scumreads they need to explain why my townreads are wrong
do you townread harley and toog?
I townread saber but I'm open to having my mind changed there. No on toog
Can you please call me Harley? Everytime I hear that name I get tiger visions. Thanks.
My thing was past tense and I was referring to saber, not you
I prefer they, thanks :)
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Post Post #3998 (ISO) » Fri Oct 22, 2021 9:44 am

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i feel like i'm not in a place to even evaluate that slot right now but harley's posting is doing herself no favors
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Post Post #3999 (ISO) » Fri Oct 22, 2021 9:46 am

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In post 3997, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 3994, Harley Quinn wrote:
In post 3992, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 3988, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 3987, Dwlee99 wrote:If someone disagrees on my scumreads they need to explain why my townreads are wrong
do you townread harley and toog?
I townread saber but I'm open to having my mind changed there. No on toog
Can you please call me Harley? Everytime I hear that name I get tiger visions. Thanks.
My thing was past tense and I was referring to saber, not you
Ok, np.
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